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Post by Mrs H on Jan 10, 2007 11:10:12 GMT -1
My great grandad said he want to out live Churchill so that he could die happy. He died a month after Churchill. My dad has in his hallway a "Thatcher Quits" placard from the Sheffield Star. He says he's going to replace it with a "Thatcher dies" one when she pops her clogs. Laura I don't know your family but I think I love them... I'm sure if you have a militant, argumentative streak you would fit right in Jules!
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Post by addicted2venos on Jan 10, 2007 11:21:38 GMT -1
I loved Thatcher, if you worked you earned if you're a lazy fuck then you get nothing and that the way it should be unless you can't look after yourself without assistance etc., That's just plain wrong .............. I for one will have a massive party on the day that vinegary titted old witch dies. Under Thatcher the rich got richer, and the poor poorer. Due to 11 years of chronic underinvestment in the countries infrastructure (largely to offset tax cuts), we now have appalling public services (well obviously the ones she didn't privatise) and a rail and road system that many poorer countries would be ashamed of. There are so, so many reasons that this woman should not be held in any kind of regard at all.
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Post by jh1980 on Jan 10, 2007 11:25:13 GMT -1
That's just plain wrong .............. I for one will have a massive party on the day that vinegary titted old witch dies. Under Thatcher the rich got richer, and the poor poorer. Due to 11 years of chronic underinvestment in the countries infrastructure (largely to offset tax cuts), we now have appalling public services (well obviously the ones she didn't privatise) and a rail and road system that many poorer countries would be ashamed of. There are so, so many reasons that this woman should not be held in any kind of regard at all. *Cold pint slides along bar towards A2V* (I was going to say "I love you and I want your babies" but thought that was courting too much controversy...)
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Post by Mrs H on Jan 10, 2007 11:26:28 GMT -1
That's just plain wrong .............. I for one will have a massive party on the day that vinegary titted old witch dies. Under Thatcher the rich got richer, and the poor poorer. Due to 11 years of chronic underinvestment in the countries infrastructure (largely to offset tax cuts), we now have appalling public services (well obviously the ones she didn't privatise) and a rail and road system that many poorer countries would be ashamed of. There are so, so many reasons that this woman should not be held in any kind of regard at all. *Cold pint slides along bar towards A2V* (I was going to say "I love you and I want your babies" but thought that was courting too much controversy...) He does want your babies really and so do I after that soap box speech.
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Post by CHOPPER READ on Jan 10, 2007 11:27:37 GMT -1
What bollocks A2V. This govt is just as guilty of under funding as anyone. I work for the police and have seen the cuts made over the last 8 years. Mrs Chopper is a senior manager in the NHS and has seen the cuts to that over the last 8 years. Public services are teetering on collapse because of the red tape this govt has put in place. I loved Thatcher, if you worked you earned if you're a lazy fuck then you get nothing and that the way it should be unless you can't look after yourself without assistance etc., That's just plain wrong .............. I for one will have a massive party on the day that vinegary titted old witch dies. Under Thatcher the rich got richer, and the poor poorer. Due to 11 years of chronic underinvestment in the countries infrastructure (largely to offset tax cuts), we now have appalling public services (well obviously the ones she didn't privatise) and a rail and road system that many poorer countries would be ashamed of. There are so, so many reasons that this woman should not be held in any kind of regard at all.
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Post by jh1980 on Jan 10, 2007 11:29:42 GMT -1
He does want your babies really and so do I after that soap box speech. Crucial difference being that I have no womb... oh well! I can see this thread going nuclear (oops there's another issue lol) so I may bow out before my reserve snaps and I start snarling at people I disagree with lol... Getting lunch, having ciggy... brb
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Post by Neko Bazu on Jan 10, 2007 11:35:08 GMT -1
The thing that strikes me most about labour now is that taxes are going up, and services are getting worse. Money is being invested, but in managers on obscene wages that do naff-all and paper-pushers to sort out all that red tape, not front-line staff.
Or am I being cynical?
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Post by CHOPPER READ on Jan 10, 2007 11:41:40 GMT -1
No you are not,Mrs Chopper told me a bit back that she has a new chief executive who just cannot do the job. She reckons he only got the job by knowing what to say at interveiw as opposed to knowing how to run his dept. Everyone working there know he is as much use as a hand brake on a canoe but what can they do? All the good execs have left to take on safer,less stressful jobs so there os now a shortage of competant managers. Well done Blair. The thing that strikes me most about labour now is that taxes are going up, and services are getting worse. Money is being invested, but in managers on obscene wages that do naff-all and paper-pushers to sort out all that red tape, not front-line staff. Or am I being cynical?
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Post by jh1980 on Jan 10, 2007 11:47:38 GMT -1
I fully agree that the increase in managers for (eg) the NHS has not been a positive move. I don't particularly like New "Labour" at all but I don't see the alternative being any better and personally have more hope of Labour regaining its direction than the other parties suddenly becoming ones I could consider voting for. Still... never mind. My life's ok...
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Post by Mrs H on Jan 10, 2007 11:48:49 GMT -1
The thing that strikes me most about labour now is that taxes are going up, and services are getting worse. Money is being invested, but in managers on obscene wages that do naff-all and paper-pushers to sort out all that red tape, not front-line staff. Or am I being cynical? Not at all. You're quite right. But then 'New' Labour are just an extention of the Tory party so it's hardly suprising.
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Post by addicted2venos on Jan 10, 2007 11:51:46 GMT -1
*Cold pint slides along bar towards A2V* (I was going to say "I love you and I want your babies" but thought that was courting too much controversy...) It infuriates me when people hold the up Thatcher years as the halcyon days of British politics. She was just an old crone who had a knack of created policies that appealled to peoples, short term, self-centred thinking tendancies. I'd like to start a petition to have her buried in concrete so she can't rise from the grave, as soon as I have enough signatures I'll get cracking on it whether she's dead or not!!
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Post by Neko Bazu on Jan 10, 2007 11:56:09 GMT -1
*Cold pint slides along bar towards A2V* (I was going to say "I love you and I want your babies" but thought that was courting too much controversy...) It infuriates me when people hold the up Thatcher years as the halcyon days of British politics. She was just an old crone who had a knack of created policies that appealled to peoples, short term, self-centred thinking tendancies. I'd like to start a petition to have her buried in concrete so she can't rise from the grave, as soon as I have enough signatures I'll get cracking on it whether she's dead or not!! I dunno - the idea of getting a zombie-Thatcher to search for Bin Laden is quite an appealing prospect. Success is almost guaranteed!
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Post by jh1980 on Jan 10, 2007 11:57:00 GMT -1
It infuriates me when people hold the up Thatcher years as the halcyon days of British politics. She was just an old crone who had a knack of creating policies that appealled to peoples, short term, self-centred thinking tendancies. I'd like to start a petition to have her buried in concrete so she can't rise from the grave, as soon as I have enough signatures I'll get cracking on it whether she's dead or not!! People have short memories. For all you can attack Blair, his governments have yet to provoke riots! I'd sign that petition. Although just to be on the safe side, she should be cremated first, and the ashes sealed in concrete. And fired into space. (Again whether dead or alive at the start)
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Post by Neko Bazu on Jan 10, 2007 11:58:16 GMT -1
I don't particularly like New "Labour" at all but I don't see the alternative being any better and personally have more hope of Labour regaining its direction than the other parties suddenly becoming ones I could consider voting for. If Labour change course under the new leader, I'll seriously consider voting for them. If they stay in the same direction... well, they've proved it doesn't work. I'll vote for someone else; whoever's the lesser evil if need be! I refuse to stay at home and not vote; it doesn't send a message and is a wasted privilege that millions across the world would love to have.
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Post by Mrs H on Jan 10, 2007 11:58:42 GMT -1
It infuriates me when people hold the up Thatcher years as the halcyon days of British politics. She was just an old crone who had a knack of created policies that appealled to peoples, short term, self-centred thinking tendancies. I'd like to start a petition to have her buried in concrete so she can't rise from the grave, as soon as I have enough signatures I'll get cracking on it whether she's dead or not!! I dunno - the idea of getting a zombie-Thatcher to search for Bin Laden is quite an appealing prospect. Success is almost guaranteed! Bin Laden's dead. The American's are going to trot that bit of information out before the elections in November. ;D
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Post by Neko Bazu on Jan 10, 2007 11:59:29 GMT -1
For all you can attack Blair, his governments have yet to provoke riots! Nope; just helped massively in a Middle East meltdown At least Thatcher won her war! (A war that was probably of about equal importance to our country)
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Post by Neko Bazu on Jan 10, 2007 12:00:38 GMT -1
I dunno - the idea of getting a zombie-Thatcher to search for Bin Laden is quite an appealing prospect. Success is almost guaranteed! Bin Laden's dead. The American's are going to trot that bit of information out before the elections in November. ;D Sorry - my bad! I'd love to see Blair and Thatcher shut in a room together for two weeks, just to watch her destroy him, mind... That'd be reality TV worth watching! ;D
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Post by danthered on Jan 10, 2007 12:01:03 GMT -1
Their will never be peace on earth till all the Priests and Politicians are dead!! and thats all ive got to say about that
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Post by addicted2venos on Jan 10, 2007 12:01:41 GMT -1
I never said that this government were any better Chop. The Thatcher years were the start of the real squeeze on public services though. We're now in a situation we most people would go ballastic, if tax and national insurance contributions were upped to level that would adequately fund the NHS, Police etc. So it will never happen, and the service levels will degrade over time. As for this government, it's day I though I'd never see when the Labour party is fighting the Conservatives for the centre right position in politics and the Liberals are the most left wing party!! They have put through some good policies, sadly most have them have gone unnoticed, in the rest of the pile of shite they've pulled. I never thought I wouldn't vote Labour but the last 2 times I've voted, I haven't!! What bollocks A2V. This govt is just as guilty of under funding as anyone. I work for the police and have seen the cuts made over the last 8 years. Mrs Chopper is a senior manager in the NHS and has seen the cuts to that over the last 8 years. Public services are teetering on collapse because of the red tape this govt has put in place. That's just plain wrong .............. I for one will have a massive party on the day that vinegary titted old witch dies. Under Thatcher the rich got richer, and the poor poorer. Due to 11 years of chronic underinvestment in the countries infrastructure (largely to offset tax cuts), we now have appalling public services (well obviously the ones she didn't privatise) and a rail and road system that many poorer countries would be ashamed of. There are so, so many reasons that this woman should not be held in any kind of regard at all.
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Post by Mrs H on Jan 10, 2007 12:01:51 GMT -1
Bin Laden's dead. The American's are going to trot that bit of information out before the elections in November. ;D Sorry - my bad! I'd love to see Blair and Thatcher shut in a room together for two weeks, just to watch her destroy him, mind... That'd be reality TV worth watching! ;D She'd eat his organs to keep herself alive...
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