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Post by Mrs H on Jul 18, 2007 11:05:11 GMT -1
So you can cheat in a forrest and no-one will know? I think it's if you cheat in the forrest, and no one finds out, how did you conceal you mossy buttocks from your loved one? Tell them it's a new cellulite treatment from L'Oreal.
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Post by mortontheblade on Jul 18, 2007 11:05:19 GMT -1
this is all strangely theological.....
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Post by Shippers on Jul 18, 2007 11:05:51 GMT -1
I know if I cheated on someone the guilt would eat me up until I confessed - at which point the relationship would be over anyway. I wouldn't expect forgiveness, and I wouldn't give forgiveness. Ok then is it worse to be a) cheated on because the person just thought they could get away with it and it didn't mean anything? or b) cheated on because the person had fallen in love with someone else? it never doesn't mean something. We don't never use double negatives.
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Post by jh1980 on Jul 18, 2007 11:06:34 GMT -1
I know if I cheated on someone the guilt would eat me up until I confessed - at which point the relationship would be over anyway. I wouldn't expect forgiveness, and I wouldn't give forgiveness. you can't know that. IN some circumstances you are capable of much more than you could otherwise have imagined, and likewise so could the hypothetical lady you have cheated on. Knowing oneself is fairly important Shippers, and I know it would cause me immense guilt, as I'd correctly feel I'd betrayed them. I then know I'd feel honour bound to admit to it, even if that caused more trouble than staying silent would have done. As for the hypothetical lady, if she were to forgive me that would be immense, but I don't think I'd deserve it... anyway it gets complex when you think of all the possibilities.
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Post by jh1980 on Jul 18, 2007 11:07:58 GMT -1
Ok then is it worse to be a) cheated on because the person just thought they could get away with it and it didn't mean anything? or b) cheated on because the person had fallen in love with someone else? They are equally bad I reckon.
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Post by Shippers on Jul 18, 2007 11:09:53 GMT -1
you can't know that. IN some circumstances you are capable of much more than you could otherwise have imagined, and likewise so could the hypothetical lady you have cheated on. Knowing oneself is fairly important Shippers, and I know it would cause me immense guilt, as I'd correctly feel I'd betrayed them. I then know I'd feel honour bound to admit to it, even if that caused more trouble than staying silent would have done. As for the hypothetical lady, if she were to forgive me that would be immense, but I don't think I'd deserve it... anyway it gets complex when you think of all the possibilities. sorry - lack of clarity - I meant you don't know that you wouldn't be able to forgive.
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Post by Fizzy Bread on Jul 18, 2007 11:10:43 GMT -1
Knowing they cheated on you because the other person was better.. It'd kill your confidence.
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Post by Shippers on Jul 18, 2007 11:10:46 GMT -1
I think it's if you cheat in the forrest, and no one finds out, how did you conceal you mossy buttocks from your loved one? Tell them it's a new cellulite treatment from L'Oreal. ah-ha! We've caught you out!
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Post by jh1980 on Jul 18, 2007 11:12:16 GMT -1
sorry - lack of clarity - I meant you don't know that you wouldn't be able to forgive. ah, well at the risk of being flippant, I rarely find myself in a state of grace fella, but I know what you're getting at, maybe... I'm fairly certain I couldn't forgive or forget, and I think it would be a sign of personal weakness if you'd take them back - basically gives carte blanche to be treated as a doormat.
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Post by Shippers on Jul 18, 2007 11:13:38 GMT -1
Knowing they cheated on you because the other person was better.. It'd kill your confidence. how would you know they were better? Or how would the cheater know before they've cheated? And then isn't it irrelevant whether they were or not because the cheater has already cheated so their performance was not the motive?
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Post by mortontheblade on Jul 18, 2007 11:13:39 GMT -1
heres a question: if you find out someone you fancy had cheated in a previous relationship, would you still find the idea of being in a relationship with them as appealling? (i hope you understand what i mean there ) my answer is no.
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Post by mortontheblade on Jul 18, 2007 11:14:25 GMT -1
Knowing they cheated on you because the other person was better.. It'd kill your confidence. kill cheaters not confidence ;D
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Post by Mrs H on Jul 18, 2007 11:14:36 GMT -1
Ok then is it worse to be a) cheated on because the person just thought they could get away with it and it didn't mean anything? or b) cheated on because the person had fallen in love with someone else? They are equally bad I reckon. I think it would be worse to be cheated on for a one night stand. If the other person had fallen in love with someone else then it would be out of my control, but to be cheated on callously because they just could do it then I think that it worse.
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Post by Shippers on Jul 18, 2007 11:15:26 GMT -1
heres a question: if you find out someone you fancy had cheated in a previous relationship, would you still find the idea of being in a relationship with them as appealling? (i hope you understand what i mean there ) my answer is no. a-ha - flipping teh scenario on it's head. Your answer does it mean no, not as appealing, or no there's no chance I'd go there?
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Post by Mrs H on Jul 18, 2007 11:16:10 GMT -1
Knowing they cheated on you because the other person was better.. It'd kill your confidence. It's not a question of them being better but maybe more compatible. Not that anyone is better than you Spozzler
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Post by jh1980 on Jul 18, 2007 11:16:11 GMT -1
Knowing they cheated on you because the other person was better.. It'd kill your confidence. That wouldn't be the way to look at it though. After all, your new ex would be the skank, and the other person... not better in any way YOU could see! (Sure though, most people would feel that privately )
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Post by mortontheblade on Jul 18, 2007 11:16:12 GMT -1
They are equally bad I reckon. I think it would be worse to be cheated on for a one night stand. If the other person had fallen in love with someone else then it would be out of my control, but to be cheated on callously because they just could do it then I think that it worse. surely it'd suggest something about your own relationship, if they could fall in love with someone else....
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Post by Shippers on Jul 18, 2007 11:16:31 GMT -1
They are equally bad I reckon. I think it would be worse to be cheated on for a one night stand. If the other person had fallen in love with someone else then it would be out of my control, but to be cheated on callously because they just could do it then I think that it worse. I'l second that motion. You can't help who you fall in love with.
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Post by Fizzy Bread on Jul 18, 2007 11:16:55 GMT -1
Knowing they cheated on you because the other person was better.. It'd kill your confidence. how would you know they were better? Or how would the cheater know before they've cheated? And then isn't it irrelevant whether they were or not because the cheater has already cheated so their performance was not the motive? I dunno, hypothetically.. if they told you? Perhaps they weren't getting what they wanted so went out to find someone better? Found someone better and continued the affair..? People cheat for all kinds of reasons though and it's not irrelevant.
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Post by jh1980 on Jul 18, 2007 11:17:33 GMT -1
heres a question: if you find out someone you fancy had cheated in a previous relationship, would you still find the idea of being in a relationship with them as appealling? (i hope you understand what i mean there ) my answer is no. It would certainly be a concern - but if they had would they tell you?! Haha I don't mean to increase your paranoia Morton?!
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