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Post by Ninja Squirrel on Mar 14, 2007 14:36:01 GMT -1
$140K I can't be the only one in that category on here. just calculated my annual salary from dollars to pounds. I'd only be making £72K+ across the pond. and to answer your 2nd question I work for Dept. of Homeland Security in the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). My job is to prevent terrorists and terrorist weapons from entering the United States while facilitating the flow of legitimate trade and travel Now I watch 24 a lot and you don't seem to be doing your Job properly as there seems to be countless terrorists and terrorist weapons in LA
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Post by Dr LuKas on Mar 14, 2007 14:37:48 GMT -1
just calculated my annual salary from dollars to pounds. I'd only be making £72K+ across the pond. and to answer your 2nd question I work for Dept. of Homeland Security in the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). My job is to prevent terrorists and terrorist weapons from entering the United States while facilitating the flow of legitimate trade and travel Now I watch 24 a lot and you don't seem to be doing your Job properly as there seems to be countless terrorists and terrorist weapons in LA Yeah like nail clippers.
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Post by jh1980 on Mar 14, 2007 14:38:43 GMT -1
"All people should have the basic right to free education and health care" here, free education until finished university allegedly (but with the hidden costs)! health care until 18 or poor, but a such a shite level, unless have insurance taking things in your own hands, heading towards the US system rather than the german system! bastard politicians!! I agree with that but instead of blaming centrist politicians why not blame all the forces of reaction within society (media and popular prejudices) that mean they can't get elected if they implement a more socially just programme...? That's my thinking - and sorry if it sounds like an attack on you Hurls, it's not meant personally...
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Post by Alex on Mar 14, 2007 14:38:44 GMT -1
I'm a student, but have a part-time job in a call centre( ), so i am not that much of a drain, despite not having to pay tax! And i earn approximately 4k i reckon, but i do only work 14 hours a week around college.
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Post by Fizzy Bread on Mar 14, 2007 14:40:26 GMT -1
The greatest democracy witht he best Congress money can buy.. *ooh controversial.* Why should disadvantaged children, for instance not have the same level of educaton available as children with wealthy parents? Life isn't fair but in society, there are huge social divides - all this does is widen the gap. "All people should have the basic right to free education and health care" here, free education until finished university allegedly (but with the hidden costs)! health care until 18 or poor, but a such a shite level, unless have insurance taking things in your own hands, heading towards the US system rather than the german system! bastard politicians!! Well.. we do. It should be everyone has the right to the best possible health care and education that the state can provide.. Uni isn't free, I don't think it should be but tuition fee's are ridiculously high. It should be a level playing field, as Hurls said, Major wanted a class free society, perhaps that's a bit too much to aim for but closing the class divide is certainly possible.
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Post by Katiekins on Mar 14, 2007 14:40:31 GMT -1
Stooooooodent ;d
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Post by thales on Mar 14, 2007 14:43:04 GMT -1
"All people should have the basic right to free education and health care" here, free education until finished university allegedly (but with the hidden costs)! health care until 18 or poor, but a such a shite level, unless have insurance taking things in your own hands, heading towards the US system rather than the german system! bastard politicians!! I agree with that but instead of blaming centrist politicians why not blame all the forces of reaction within society (media and popular prejudices) that mean they can't get elected if they implement a more socially just programme...? That's my thinking - and sorry if it sounds like an attack on you Hurls, it's not meant personally... we have proportional representation here, so better chance of getting elected, independents tend to get very little notice, unless a hung government, then you see things being done! but because of the celtic tiger, most people dont give a shite once they have the money!!!
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Post by Neko Bazu on Mar 14, 2007 14:46:47 GMT -1
In answer to the actual "What do you do?" question, I'd also like to add to my original description, "...and would-be first-time buyer often reduced to headslamming his desk/wall at the insane prices." I remember reading the paper when I was young (pretending to be all grown-up) and thinking 80k was a lot for a house compared to the other prices, but I'd practically leap on that now *has been trawling the net and getting more and more depressed*
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Post by jh1980 on Mar 14, 2007 14:52:52 GMT -1
I agree with that but instead of blaming centrist politicians why not blame all the forces of reaction within society (media and popular prejudices) that mean they can't get elected if they implement a more socially just programme...? That's my thinking - and sorry if it sounds like an attack on you Hurls, it's not meant personally... we have proportional representation here, so better chance of getting elected, independents tend to get very little notice, unless a hung government, then you see things being done! but because of the celtic tiger, most people dont give a shite once they have the money!!! I have no truck with PR... I fear that maybe it'll be hung next time, there could be a Lib-Lab Coalition on the condition of PR... then the country will be even more screwed!
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Post by Ninja Squirrel on Mar 14, 2007 14:54:29 GMT -1
In answer to the actual "What do you do?" question, I'd also like to add to my original description, "...and would-be first-time buyer often reduced to headslamming his desk/wall at the insane prices." I remember reading the paper when I was young (pretending to be all grown-up) and thinking 80k was a lot for a house compared to the other prices, but I'd practically leap on that now *has been trawling the net and getting more and more depressed* I commented earlier that even me and the misses can't afford anything combined at the mo. its stupid they bang up these homes and say they are starter homes then ask for £190K it seems that the price of living goes up and wages take a year or more to catch up with inflation pain in the arse to be honest
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Post by HURLOCK on Mar 14, 2007 15:00:00 GMT -1
Why should disadvantaged children, for instance not have the same level of eduction available as children with wealthy parents? Life isn't fair but in society, there are huge social divides - all this does is widen the gap. Exactamundo Jen. And Hurls - my view is about generally leveling up, not dragging everyone down before you say that. You can scoff as much as you like (many people do) but a better world is possible, even if that is a somewhat sappy quote much beloved of Marxist groups... Red Julio And I agree in principal, however the system does not work! I have no issues with state education, my mother actually wanted me to go private. However my father put his foot down and said I should be down with the kids etc., (both my parents are teachers) Right going onto the NHS, this is the biggest single insurance policy in the country that everyone who works pays into! It's not free and works on the basis of premiums or contributions of the many pay for the claims of the few. NHS will always exist and I agree with it in principal, however there must be some sort of cap on what you get if you are able bodied etc., because as it stands the principal is not working and the funds are running out. A true but sad state of affairs. I'm looking forward to this debate on the 24th Jules!
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Post by Stan on Mar 14, 2007 15:00:31 GMT -1
we have proportional representation here, so better chance of getting elected, independents tend to get very little notice, unless a hung government, then you see things being done! but because of the celtic tiger, most people dont give a shite once they have the money!!! I have no truck with PR... I fear that maybe it'll be hung next time, there could be a Lib-Lab Coalition on the condition of PR... then the country will be even more screwed! Isn't lib-lab a breed of dog...?
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Post by Neko Bazu on Mar 14, 2007 15:00:32 GMT -1
In answer to the actual "What do you do?" question, I'd also like to add to my original description, "...and would-be first-time buyer often reduced to headslamming his desk/wall at the insane prices." I remember reading the paper when I was young (pretending to be all grown-up) and thinking 80k was a lot for a house compared to the other prices, but I'd practically leap on that now *has been trawling the net and getting more and more depressed* I commented earlier that even me and the misses can't afford anything combined at the mo. its stupid they bang up these homes and say they are starter homes then ask for £190K it seems that the price of living goes up and wages take a year or more to catch up with inflation pain in the arse to be honest And in some areas, even that is a really good price I remember this one report that said that the 'official' measure of inflation was effectively a lie - when you accounted for things your money mostly goes on (mortgage, gas, electric, food etc) inflation is at something like 15%, I think they said If wages are raised 3% (as mine was last year) then it's not anything near keeping up!
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Post by Ninja Squirrel on Mar 14, 2007 15:03:38 GMT -1
I commented earlier that even me and the misses can't afford anything combined at the mo. its stupid they bang up these homes and say they are starter homes then ask for £190K it seems that the price of living goes up and wages take a year or more to catch up with inflation pain in the arse to be honest And in some areas, even that is a really good price I remember this one report that said that the 'official' measure of inflation was effectively a lie - when you accounted for things your money mostly goes on (mortgage, gas, electric, food etc) inflation is at something like 15%, I think they said If wages are raised 3% (as mine was last year) then it's not anything near keeping up! Mine was raised by 2.4% and then when I asked for more they thought I was being cheeky seems some companies are a bit narrow minded when it comes to wages, not realizing what people have to fork out, the fact that my Council Tax went down is quiet a relief to the old wallet as it saves us £15/20 per month it may not sound much but in the long run its beneficial
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Post by thales on Mar 14, 2007 15:03:48 GMT -1
we have proportional representation here, so better chance of getting elected, independents tend to get very little notice, unless a hung government, then you see things being done! but because of the celtic tiger, most people dont give a shite once they have the money!!! I have no truck with PR... I fear that maybe it'll be hung next time, there could be a Lib-Lab Coalition on the condition of PR... then the country will be even more screwed! PR works better than what ye have, but needs a change in gov every few elections, FF/Pd in power as long as labour, but hopefully will get a better mix this time! but all the parties are pretty much the same, all gone centre these days...
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Post by jh1980 on Mar 14, 2007 15:06:06 GMT -1
Red Julio And I agree in principal, however the system does not work! I have no issues with state education, my mother actually wanted me to go private. However my father put his foot down and said I should be down with the kids etc., (both my parents are teachers) Right going onto the NHS, this is the biggest single insurance policy in the country that everyone who works pays into! It's not free and works on the basis of premiums or contributions of the many pay for the claims of the few. NHS will always exist and I agree with it in principal, however there must be some sort of cap on what you get if you are able bodied etc., because as it stands the principal is not working and the funds are running out. A true but sad state of affairs. I'm looking forward to this debate on the 24th Jules! Red indeed. All the best things are in life are red... apart obviously from t' Bluebirds! Glad you agree in principle, it's a start... Yeah well I'm on dodgy ground, I didn't go to a state school, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't have!!! The NHS is not ideal but everybody does need it at some point actually, or everybody who can't afford private healthcare (which is a sore issue for me anyway). After all were we all born in private hospitals? I doubt it. Yes mate, I presume other people are still intending to come, maybe should resurrect the thread as a reminder...
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Post by HURLOCK on Mar 14, 2007 15:07:03 GMT -1
In answer to the actual "What do you do?" question, I'd also like to add to my original description, "...and would-be first-time buyer often reduced to headslamming his desk/wall at the insane prices." I remember reading the paper when I was young (pretending to be all grown-up) and thinking 80k was a lot for a house compared to the other prices, but I'd practically leap on that now *has been trawling the net and getting more and more depressed* I do really feel for people trying to get on the ladder now, even if there is adrop in the market it will only be circa 15%
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Post by HURLOCK on Mar 14, 2007 15:09:43 GMT -1
Red Julio And I agree in principal, however the system does not work! I have no issues with state education, my mother actually wanted me to go private. However my father put his foot down and said I should be down with the kids etc., (both my parents are teachers) Right going onto the NHS, this is the biggest single insurance policy in the country that everyone who works pays into! It's not free and works on the basis of premiums or contributions of the many pay for the claims of the few. NHS will always exist and I agree with it in principal, however there must be some sort of cap on what you get if you are able bodied etc., because as it stands the principal is not working and the funds are running out. A true but sad state of affairs. I'm looking forward to this debate on the 24th Jules! Red indeed. All the best things are in life are red... apart obviously from t' Bluebirds! Glad you agree in principle, it's a start... Yeah well I'm on dodgy ground, I didn't go to a state school, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't have!!! The NHS is not ideal but everybody does need it at some point actually, or everybody who can't afford private healthcare (which is a sore issue for me anyway). After all were we all born in private hospitals? I doubt it. Yes mate, I presume other people are still intending to come, maybe should resurrect the thread as a reminder... private healthcare is wrong too, as you pay twice, and get seen by the same surgeon - but no waiting time
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Post by Neko Bazu on Mar 14, 2007 15:44:25 GMT -1
In answer to the actual "What do you do?" question, I'd also like to add to my original description, "...and would-be first-time buyer often reduced to headslamming his desk/wall at the insane prices." I remember reading the paper when I was young (pretending to be all grown-up) and thinking 80k was a lot for a house compared to the other prices, but I'd practically leap on that now *has been trawling the net and getting more and more depressed* I do really feel for people trying to get on the ladder now, even if there is adrop in the market it will only be circa 15% I have quite literally got to depend on there being a spectacular crash, on my current money - not even a drop, but a genuine crash. Through the floor. Wailing and gnashing of teeth. Economy in recession. Buy-to-let people flogging the houses cheap while there's still something to be got from it. Can't say that's too likely while demand still massively outstrips supply Just have a look at this to see how house prices have been going! Anyone selling for C.1995 prices? *looks round hopefully*
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Post by HURLOCK on Mar 14, 2007 15:46:26 GMT -1
Look mate, you'll get somewhere - furthermore your money will improve
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