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Post by Stan on Mar 14, 2007 11:08:22 GMT -1
Glad to see there are only 2 people on over 40k! Whoever they are - you people need to pay more tax!!! *Jules descends into Stalinist mode*  Tyrant! Four legs bad! |
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Post by jh1980 on Mar 14, 2007 11:14:59 GMT -1
"Keep Warm - Burn the Rich!" ;D |
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Post by Neko Bazu on Mar 14, 2007 11:19:34 GMT -1
Glad to see there are only 2 people on over 40k! Whoever they are - you people need to pay more tax!!! *Jules descends into Stalinist mode* Tyrant! Four legs bad! "Come see the Russian Pyramids!"   |
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Post by HURLOCK on Mar 14, 2007 11:31:50 GMT -1
Glad to see there are only 2 people on over 40k! Whoever they are - you people need to pay more tax!!! *Jules descends into Stalinist mode* Why Jules? I don't see it's right myself! |
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Post by jh1980 on Mar 14, 2007 11:40:45 GMT -1
Whoever they are - you people need to pay more tax!!! *Jules descends into Stalinist mode* Why Jules? I don't see it's right myself! Short answer is I can't imagine they deserve much more pay than we do, and therefore surplus earnings should be taken back into Government hands to be used for the benefit of society as a whole! *not including "illegal wars"  |
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Post by HURLOCK on Mar 14, 2007 12:57:47 GMT -1
Why Jules? I don't see it's right myself! Short answer is I can't imagine they deserve much more pay than we do, and therefore surplus earnings should be taken back into Government hands to be used for the benefit of society as a whole! *not including "illegal wars" but why should I work hard for other peoples benefit, it's bad enough being on the higher tax bracket! |
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Post by Neko Bazu on Mar 14, 2007 12:59:08 GMT -1
Short answer is I can't imagine they deserve much more pay than we do, and therefore surplus earnings should be taken back into Government hands to be used for the benefit of society as a whole! *not including "illegal wars" but why should I work hard for other peoples benefit, it's bad enough being on the higher tax bracket! Because other people worked hard for your benefit before that? (Unless you've never used the NHS, state schools etc  ) |
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Post by jh1980 on Mar 14, 2007 13:05:07 GMT -1
but why should I work hard for other peoples benefit, it's bad enough being on the higher tax bracket! Because other people worked hard for your benefit before that? (Unless you've never used the NHS, state schools etc ) Neko is correct. Furthermore it is perfectly in line with my view of how to create a good society to restrict the wages of higher earners until such time as there is relative equality of outcome. I never said you shouldn't be paid more for working harder / better. I do however disagree with the market rate for certain jobs - it is not justifiable. |
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Post by HURLOCK on Mar 14, 2007 14:08:28 GMT -1
That will never happen - about as naive as Major when he said he was going to create a classless society!
I have been educated by the state on a few rare occassions have used the NHS, however I have paid for that as did my parents!
Anyone who says they don't aspire to more is a liar, because ambition is the driving factor for everyone.
I get really fucked off paying extra tax, to fund lazy peoples lifestyles. If you genuinely can't work then I have no issue, however if you can't be arsed then you can take a running jump!
Should be similar system in place as America if you ask me, no money no honey!
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Post by thales on Mar 14, 2007 14:10:50 GMT -1
good job, didn't keep mine in euros |
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Post by thales on Mar 14, 2007 14:12:09 GMT -1
Chemist Irish Bit crazy Are you a bomb maker Eoin? ;D you got me on the crazy and chemist bit, what was the other one? <no mrsh, just narcotics  > |
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Post by Ninja Squirrel on Mar 14, 2007 14:17:30 GMT -1
That will never happen - about as naive as Major when he said he was going to create a classless society! I have been educated by the state on a few rare occassions have used the NHS, however I have paid for that as did my parents! Anyone who says they don't aspire to more is a liar, because ambition is the driving factor for everyone. I get really fucked off paying extra tax, to fund lazy peoples lifestyles. If you genuinely can't work then I have no issue, however if you can't be arsed then you can take a running jump! Should be similar system in place as America if you ask me, no money no honey! I think the NHS will cease to exsit in 10-20 years anyway with more people going private and with health plans and such |
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Post by jh1980 on Mar 14, 2007 14:21:38 GMT -1
That will never happen - about as naive as Major when he said he was going to create a classless society! Probably not possible under democracy, no. It would take a huge shift in the general public view. Hmmm well that's why more money is needed for those services, if it's not good enough...  I aspire to be comfortable, and not to reach the top by treading on other people's faces. I aspire to see everyone who deserves to do well, do well! I'm still not a hippie though!!! yes but that's a popular misconception. it's simply not the case that large numbers of people are taking the piss, though I do agree if they are it should be stopped! No-brainer, that one! Ooh, I'm SO tempted to say "why don't you go there?" now! After all Hurls, isn't this the greatest country in the world?!?! ;D |
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Post by officergroyman on Mar 14, 2007 14:23:14 GMT -1
$140K I can't be the only one in that category on here.  just calculated my annual salary from dollars to pounds. I'd only be making £72K+ across the pond. and to answer your 2nd question I work for Dept. of Homeland Security in the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). My job is to prevent terrorists and terrorist weapons from entering the United States while facilitating the flow of legitimate trade and travel |
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Post by Fizzy Bread on Mar 14, 2007 14:25:03 GMT -1
That will never happen - about as naive as Major when he said he was going to create a classless society! Probably not possible under democracy, no. It would take a huge shift in the general public view. Hmmm well that's why more money is needed for those services, if it's not good enough... I aspire to be comfortable, and not to reach the top by treading on other people's faces. I aspire to see everyone who deserves to do well, do well! I'm still not a hippie though!!! yes but that's a popular misconception. it's simply not the case that large numbers of people are taking the piss, though I do agree if they are it should be stopped! No-brainer, that one! Ooh, I'm SO tempted to say "why don't you go there?" now! After all Hurls, isn't this the greatest country in the world?!?! ;D The greatest democracy witht he best Congress money can buy.. *ooh controversial.* Why should disadvantaged children, for instance not have the same level of educaton available as children with wealthy parents? Life isn't fair but in society, there are huge social divides - all this does is widen the gap. |
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Post by Dr LuKas on Mar 14, 2007 14:28:00 GMT -1
$140K I can't be the only one in that category on here. just calculated my annual salary from dollars to pounds. I'd only be making £72K+ across the pond. and to answer your 2nd question I work for Dept. of Homeland Security in the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). My job is to prevent terrorists and terrorist weapons from entering the United States while facilitating the flow of legitimate trade and travel OK can you let me in please. Let me join NASA so I can become the first man on Mars in 15 years time. Come man you have the power. I will funk up Mars good and proper. |
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Post by Fizzy Bread on Mar 14, 2007 14:30:53 GMT -1
$140K I can't be the only one in that category on here. just calculated my annual salary from dollars to pounds. I'd only be making £72K+ across the pond. and to answer your 2nd question I work for Dept. of Homeland Security in the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). My job is to prevent terrorists and terrorist weapons from entering the United States while facilitating the flow of legitimate trade and travel ONLY?! Arsey Americans  |
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Post by jh1980 on Mar 14, 2007 14:32:39 GMT -1
and to answer your 2nd question I work for Dept. of Homeland Security in the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). My job is to prevent terrorists and terrorist weapons from entering the United States while facilitating the flow of legitimate trade and travel Hmmm. 2 thoughts come to mind. 1) Don't mess with OG! ;D 2) Get off here and get protecting the US!!! |
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Post by jh1980 on Mar 14, 2007 14:34:31 GMT -1
Why should disadvantaged children, for instance not have the same level of educaton available as children with wealthy parents? Life isn't fair but in society, there are huge social divides - all this does is widen the gap. Exactamundo Jen. And Hurls - my view is about generally levelling up, not dragging everyone down before you say that. You can scoff as much as you like (many people do) but a better world is possible, even if that is a somewhat sappy quote much beloved of Marxist groups... |
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Post by thales on Mar 14, 2007 14:35:44 GMT -1
Probably not possible under democracy, no. It would take a huge shift in the general public view. Hmmm well that's why more money is needed for those services, if it's not good enough... I aspire to be comfortable, and not to reach the top by treading on other people's faces. I aspire to see everyone who deserves to do well, do well! I'm still not a hippie though!!! yes but that's a popular misconception. it's simply not the case that large numbers of people are taking the piss, though I do agree if they are it should be stopped! No-brainer, that one! Ooh, I'm SO tempted to say "why don't you go there?" now! After all Hurls, isn't this the greatest country in the world?!?! ;D The greatest democracy witht he best Congress money can buy.. *ooh controversial.* Why should disadvantaged children, for instance not have the same level of educaton available as children with wealthy parents? Life isn't fair but in society, there are huge social divides - all this does is widen the gap. "All people should have the basic right to free education and health care" here, free education until finished university allegedly (but with the hidden costs)! health care until 18 or poor, but a such a shite level, unless have insurance taking things in your own hands, heading towards the US system rather than the german system! bastard politicians!! |
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