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Post by Billy on Sept 19, 2007 10:45:00 GMT -1
I'm guessing no one wants a puppy then I want jemma's puppies Well as it happens it is her friend who is selling them - and if you want one you'll have to pick it up from Jemma so......... Just wondered if anyone wants one now by any chance? ;D
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Post by HURLOCK on Sept 19, 2007 10:46:32 GMT -1
it was my point that they are equally cruel if not more so than us mate. I can't accept that a animals life is better than mine or more harmonious, just isn't and in many ways they're far crueler than us. If your not fit you die, if your weak you die, if your old you die. Sounds a bit like hitlers master race As opposed to war, genocide, murdering innocent people...? "Just isn't" sort of sums up the argument. It's entirely perspective - to be quite frank, I think the planet'd be better off without human influence. Jules, you raise all those points about civilisation, culture and so forth - I really don't think we're as civilised as we give ourselves credit for, and I fail to see how us expanding our literary archives creates any real benefit. Sure, it's for our enjoyment - at the expense of everything else on the planet. I'm not LHE extreme, but we certainly aren't as fantastic as we seem to collectively believe. I've been too honest with myself I should've lied like everybody else so all the things you enjoy, you'd give up to be morphed into an animal?
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Post by Stan on Sept 19, 2007 10:51:29 GMT -1
I'm guessing no one wants a puppy then I want jemma's puppies Aye aye chicken pie!
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Post by jh1980 on Sept 19, 2007 10:54:20 GMT -1
As opposed to war, genocide, murdering innocent people...? "Just isn't" sort of sums up the argument. It's entirely perspective - to be quite frank, I think the planet'd be better off without human influence. Jules, you raise all those points about civilisation, culture and so forth - I really don't think we're as civilised as we give ourselves credit for, and I fail to see how us expanding our literary archives creates any real benefit. Sure, it's for our enjoyment - at the expense of everything else on the planet. I'm not LHE extreme, but we certainly aren't as fantastic as we seem to collectively believe. I've been too honest with myself I should've lied like everybody else Don't be silly, like I said, the only reason other animals don't have wars etc is the lack of capacity! Although if you want to compare tribal wars in prehistoric Africa with territorial scraps between extended families of meerkats, that would probably be an entirely fair comparison! The planet might be, but if you want to remove yourself from the gene pool that's your business! ;D We are capable of so much - and some of our number even go out of our way to save, protect and further animals' interests, can't see them doing that for us - and of course, they aren't *capable* of doing that for us! Are you sure?! I think humanity is a wonderful thing, that's not brainwashing, it's just appreciating the good that we have created, and will continue to do - especially if your objections on the grounds of sustainability are removed by our efforts to improve that aspect. Do you agree with Agent Smith in the Matrix? "Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet." Nice Manics quote btw
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Post by addicted2venos on Sept 19, 2007 10:57:44 GMT -1
'king ell this thread got quite deep, meaningless and long!! It appears that no one wants to buy a puppy Billy, but Neko wishes to add himself to the litter so he can have a shot at a better life!! So the new question is does anyone want to buy Neko for 250 quid?? ;D
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Post by Billy on Sept 19, 2007 10:58:34 GMT -1
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Post by Stan on Sept 19, 2007 10:58:54 GMT -1
'king ell this thread got quite deep, meaningless and long!! It appears that no one wants to buy a puppy Billy, but Neko wishes to add himself to the litter so he can have a shot at a better life!! So the new question is does anyone want to buy Neko for 250 quid?? ;D Shouldn't we be getting money for taking Neko San off of his poor parents' hands...!?!
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Post by jh1980 on Sept 19, 2007 10:59:58 GMT -1
Would you fetch £250 for Neko though Per hour or all night?! ;D
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Post by Stan on Sept 19, 2007 11:00:34 GMT -1
Would you fetch £250 for Neko though Per hour or all night?! ;D Slut!
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Post by addicted2venos on Sept 19, 2007 11:01:23 GMT -1
Would you fetch £250 for Neko though It seems a little steep ........ plus I'm more of a cat person!!
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Post by jh1980 on Sept 19, 2007 11:01:42 GMT -1
Slut! ;D I wouldn't know the going rate, sounds pretty high class to me!
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Post by addicted2venos on Sept 19, 2007 11:02:36 GMT -1
Shouldn't we be getting money for taking Neko San off of his poor parents' hands...!?! We do look after him ....... so really we should be getting some kind of fee!!
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Post by Stan on Sept 19, 2007 11:03:25 GMT -1
Slut! ;D I wouldn't know the going rate, sounds pretty high class to me! Well, my wife costs me a lot more than £250/week and she's not high class...
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Post by Stan on Sept 19, 2007 11:04:14 GMT -1
Shouldn't we be getting money for taking Neko San off of his poor parents' hands...!?! We do look after him ....... so really we should be getting some kind of fee!! Good point Kieran! Are you an accountant...?
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Post by jh1980 on Sept 19, 2007 11:04:18 GMT -1
Well, my wife costs me a lot more than £250/week and she's not high class... LMAO! ;D
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Post by Billy on Sept 19, 2007 11:05:57 GMT -1
ooooo Stan!!! Bit harsh!
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Post by Stan on Sept 19, 2007 11:06:02 GMT -1
Well, my wife costs me a lot more than £250/week and she's not high class... LMAO! ;D Oi Julio... d'you here owt about the sooz at all...?
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Post by Stan on Sept 19, 2007 11:06:52 GMT -1
ooooo Stan!!! Bit harsh! <in a MrsH type narthern voice> I say what I like and I like what I bloody well say! ;D
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Post by jh1980 on Sept 19, 2007 11:09:23 GMT -1
Oi Julio... d'you here owt about the sooz at all...? Not too lately, no... isn't little Conor due?
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Post by Stan on Sept 19, 2007 11:10:37 GMT -1
Oi Julio... d'you here owt about the sooz at all...? Not too lately, no... isn't little Conor due? Dunno... haven't heard anything from her for ages. Hope she's well...
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