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Post by Mrs H on Sept 10, 2007 11:19:41 GMT -1
I would like it noted that I said from the beginning that I didn't trust the mother as far as I throw her. Her obssession with the media, the "I'm never leaving Portugal until my child is found" and the fact that she never seems to be with her other children.
Can somebody explain to me why, when they have been officially named as suspects in their daughter's disappearance, have they been alowed to come home?
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Post by Katiekins on Sept 10, 2007 11:22:21 GMT -1
I thoguht there was something dodgy going on aswel. You dont leave your kids at that age when you go out for dinner!! You would have thought the police would make them stay in Portugal if she is a suspect
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Post by jh1980 on Sept 10, 2007 11:23:58 GMT -1
I would like it noted that I said from the beginning that I didn't trust the mother as far as I throw her. Her obssession with the media, the "I'm never leaving Portugal until my child is found" and the fact that she never seems to be with her other children. Can somebody explain to me why, when they have been officially named as suspects in their daughter's disappearance, have they been alowed to come home? Yeah but I find the way in which people are "tried by public" a little unsettling, and everyone now is saying "ooh, they seemed a rum pair to me all along." I think they were with the other kids at first, but presumably they've been handed over to nannies (uh-oh, hand that rocks the cradle?!) They can be called back to Portugal, but I imagine that if you're in that situation and you get basically accused of being involved, you would just think "fuck this I'm getting out of here!"
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Post by Mrs H on Sept 10, 2007 11:25:20 GMT -1
I would like it noted that I said from the beginning that I didn't trust the mother as far as I throw her. Her obssession with the media, the "I'm never leaving Portugal until my child is found" and the fact that she never seems to be with her other children. Can somebody explain to me why, when they have been officially named as suspects in their daughter's disappearance, have they been alowed to come home? Yeah but I find the way in which people are "tried by public" a little unsettling, and everyone now is saying "ooh, they seemed a rum pair to me all along." I think they were with the other kids at first, but presumably they've been handed over to nannies (uh-oh, hand that rocks the cradle?!) They can be called back to Portugal, but I imagine that if you're in that situation and you get basically accused of being involved, you would just think "fuck this I'm getting out of here!" But if someone is a named as a suspect here they have to remain in the country!
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Post by HURLOCK on Sept 10, 2007 11:26:34 GMT -1
Always though that there was something not quite right about the whole business, I found the way they manipulated the press quite offensive. When infact they should have been looking after their children instead of leaving them on their own again whilst visiting the pope.
Hope I'm wrong about this
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Post by Mrs H on Sept 10, 2007 11:29:18 GMT -1
Totally agree about the press part. You don't hire Max Clifford, swan off around Europe, arrange an audience with the pope and then as soon as they're named suspects ask for privacy and for the press to leave them alone. They can't expect that to happen.
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Post by jh1980 on Sept 10, 2007 11:29:27 GMT -1
But if someone is a named as a suspect here they have to remain in the country! Yes I don't quite get that. Would they now have to go through a lengthy complex and complicated extradition process if the Portuguese want to try them? Meh, I don't care. Thinking about it.
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Post by HGO on Sept 10, 2007 11:29:48 GMT -1
I always thought she looked shifty. Ive watched a lot of CSI`s i`ll have you know and i am therefore qualified to judge. In all honesty i think leaving them was pretty shocking to start with but if your daughters missing you dont start travelling round Europe on the charity youve been provided with to stay in Portugal. Im not one for bandwagon jumping but if Kate McCann had been a single mother doing the same thing she would have been hung drawn and quartered
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Post by Lollipop on Sept 10, 2007 11:31:58 GMT -1
He writes a blog too.
Not sure I could be arsed with that if my kid had gone missing.
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Post by Neko Bazu on Sept 10, 2007 11:33:11 GMT -1
I thoguht there was something dodgy going on aswel. You dont leave your kids at that age when you go out for dinner!! You would have thought the police would make them stay in Portugal if she is a suspect Well, under Portugese law, they can only ask certain questions if you're treated as a suspect - so even if they don't actually suspect you, they have to say they do to question you in more depth. That said, they haven't removed the 'arguido' status either, so... I must admit, not knowing all the facts, I'm torn on exactly what to think. The sympathist in me says that if they are innocent, they must have come home knowing that, now that they're arguido, they wouldn't get any peace in Portugal, and lord knows it must be hard enough for them as it is. I think, though, that the thing that most made me hiss about their decision to come home now is the way they said they came home for their children's sake, and would like to be left in peace. 1) You weren't thinking too hard about your kids when you went for that meal, were you? ("Loving parent," maybe. "Responsible," I think not) 2) Am I the only one who thinks they should've come home "for their children's sake" approximately 90 days ago? Whatever their reason for coming back, the cynic in me doesn't believe it's that!
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Post by jh1980 on Sept 10, 2007 11:33:24 GMT -1
I always thought she looked shifty. Ive watched a lot of CSI`s i`ll have you know and i am therefore qualified to judge. PMSL Andy! ;D Assuming your tongue is in your cheek that's exactly what I meant about the way everyone now seems to be assuming that the parents are guilty of murder / some variety of criminal neglect / shooting JFK...
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Post by Mrs H on Sept 10, 2007 11:33:54 GMT -1
He writes a blog too. Not sure I could be arsed with that if my kid had gone missing. Yes it all smacks of them being a little too organised. If it was my child who was missing, presumed dead I think I'd find it hard to even leave the house.
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Post by HURLOCK on Sept 10, 2007 11:34:22 GMT -1
Yeah but I find the way in which people are "tried by public" a little unsettling, and everyone now is saying "ooh, they seemed a rum pair to me all along." I think they were with the other kids at first, but presumably they've been handed over to nannies (uh-oh, hand that rocks the cradle?!) They can be called back to Portugal, but I imagine that if you're in that situation and you get basically accused of being involved, you would just think "fuck this I'm getting out of here!" But if someone is a named as a suspect here they have to remain in the country! There is no condition attached to their bail, so they can do as they please essentially. If they're recalled then they'll be givem five days notice to reappear. They can't no go anyway, as this is in some way an admission of guilt!
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Post by Katiekins on Sept 10, 2007 11:36:58 GMT -1
He writes a blog too. Not sure I could be arsed with that if my kid had gone missing. Yes it all smacks of them being a little too organised. If it was my child who was missing, presumed dead I think I'd find it hard to even leave the house. You wouldnt be able to think straight if something that big happened, never mind write a blog or anything!
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Post by Mrs H on Sept 10, 2007 11:38:38 GMT -1
I thoguht there was something dodgy going on aswel. You dont leave your kids at that age when you go out for dinner!! You would have thought the police would make them stay in Portugal if she is a suspect Well, under Portugese law, they can only ask certain questions if you're treated as a suspect - so even if they don't actually suspect you, they have to say they do to question you in more depth. That said, they haven't removed the 'arguido' status either, so... I must admit, not knowing all the facts, I'm torn on exactly what to think. The sympathist in me says that if they are innocent, they must have come home knowing that, now that they're arguido, they wouldn't get any peace in Portugal, and lord knows it must be hard enough for them as it is. I think, though, that the thing that most made me hiss about their decision to come home now is the way they said they came home for their children's sake, and would like to be left in peace. 1) You weren't thinking too hard about your kids when you went for that meal, were you? ("Loving parent," maybe. "Responsible," I think not) 2) Am I the only one who thinks they should've come home "for their children's sake" approximately 90 days ago? Whatever their reason for coming back, the cynic in me doesn't believe it's that! There does seem to have been neglect of the twins doesn't there. On the day Madeline disappeared and since she's been gone.
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Post by Neko Bazu on Sept 10, 2007 11:39:33 GMT -1
Yes it all smacks of them being a little too organised. If it was my child who was missing, presumed dead I think I'd find it hard to even leave the house. You wouldnt be able to think straight if something that big happened, never mind write a blog or anything! Not necessarily true - some people find blog writing therapeutic, and it's a known fact that writing your thoughts down can help you process them and deal with them, regardless of whether you write them on a scrap of paper or in a blog. I know that always works for me.
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Post by jh1980 on Sept 10, 2007 11:40:17 GMT -1
Yes it all smacks of them being a little too organised. If it was my child who was missing, presumed dead I think I'd find it hard to even leave the house. You wouldnt be able to think straight if something that big happened, never mind write a blog or anything! Look at you all, sitting in judgement! It's remarkable what people can cope with, if they have to. One could refer to blog-writing etcetera as displacement activity. Then again, it'd save a lot of time and money just to go and lynch them, and take their remaining family into care... hmmm?!
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Post by Katiekins on Sept 10, 2007 11:42:47 GMT -1
You wouldnt be able to think straight if something that big happened, never mind write a blog or anything! Not necessarily true - some people find blog writing therapeutic, and it's a known fact that writing your thoughts down can help you process them and deal with them, regardless of whether you write them on a scrap of paper or in a blog. I know that always works for me. Yea thats right, but something that big id personally perfer to spend time with my family and console them then writing things down. Id perfer peace and to be completely left alone by press
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Post by Lollipop on Sept 10, 2007 11:43:31 GMT -1
You wouldnt be able to think straight if something that big happened, never mind write a blog or anything! Look at you all, sitting in judgement! It's remarkable what people can cope with, if they have to. One could refer to blog-writing etcetera as displacement activity. Then again, it'd save a lot of time and money just to go and lynch them, and take their remaining family into care... hmmm?! Not judgement, just an opinion. But I'm not a mother - and don't want to be for quite some time - so don't know how I'd react in fairness.
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Post by jh1980 on Sept 10, 2007 11:47:16 GMT -1
Not judgement, just an opinion. But I'm not a mother - and don't want to be for quite some time - so don't know how I'd react in fairness. Well... like I said I'm not that bothered, but it does seem a bit like judgement to me, everyone seems to know better how to deal with the situation, and everyone seems to think it's "clear" now that the parents are the ones to blame. That seems wrong to me, just saying... *shrugs* Fair play! I concur.
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