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Post by Mrs H on Oct 4, 2007 13:45:38 GMT -1
Nope I look a right haggard bag at the moment ;D FPML quality answer Funny and true Dan. So what's happening in DTR world rught now?
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Post by Neko Bazu on Oct 4, 2007 13:59:08 GMT -1
If you don't vote you've established that your own opinion should count for nothing!! I get the feeling that was meant half in jest, but that line's exalt-worthy!
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Post by HURLOCK on Oct 4, 2007 14:03:19 GMT -1
Yo sexy chick, you still looking good? Nope I look a right haggard bag at the moment ;D Is this because you did take up your friends offer
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Post by Mrs H on Oct 4, 2007 14:10:20 GMT -1
Nope I look a right haggard bag at the moment ;D Is this because you did take up your friends offer No it's because I'm living out of suitcases and haven't slept properly in 2 weeks (excluding last night's blissful 10 hours). Does lesbian sex make you look haggard??? ;D
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Post by HURLOCK on Oct 4, 2007 14:13:25 GMT -1
Is this because you did take up your friends offer No it's because I'm living out of suitcases and haven't slept properly in 2 weeks (excluding last night's blissful 10 hours). Does lesbian sex make you look haggard??? ;D Ok, didn't know you were homeless sweetie Can't answer that question, but a good all night seesion certainly does on the grounds of lack of sleep. Can oly assume it's the same where thats concerned
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Post by addicted2venos on Oct 4, 2007 14:16:29 GMT -1
Buy to let is a service - housing is provided to the needy or to people who don't want to buy. Whats the problem. Furthermore the conservative party gave people the option to buy their council houses thus giving them property and self worth. Whereas the labour government are happy to keep them poor! Well it's a service to you, as it puts cash in your pocket. Realistically the feeding frenzy for buy to let drove house prices up to their artificailly high level, and has kept many first time buyers from entering the housing market. All they can afford to do is rent, which keeps money flowing out and keeps them poor. As first time buyers are the one who usually freshen the market up, then we should all be prepared fro the arse to fall out of the housing market at some point ........... and when it does I'm blaming you!! ;D I'll tell you whats evil, going to Iraq for no valid reason, only to pander to the Bush administration. What has happened, plenty of dead servicemen and the killing of innocent civilians. All to massage someones Ego! <cough>Falkland Islands<cough> Thatcher at a point when she was loathed by the public, and if an election would have been called, she'd have lost by a landslide. Choses to go to war with Argentina over an island with no military or strategic value ......... in fact you could lose under a crumb on a map!! Now historically wars galvanise support behind the leader of the day, particularly if you win ...... and Argentina don't really have a military history .......... We are now the target of terrorists, far worst than the IRA ever where! We're grading terrorist now .......... I think they're equally as bad as each other!!
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Post by HURLOCK on Oct 4, 2007 14:26:30 GMT -1
Buy to let is a service - housing is provided to the needy or to people who don't want to buy. Whats the problem. Furthermore the conservative party gave people the option to buy their council houses thus giving them property and self worth. Whereas the labour government are happy to keep them poor! Well it's a service to you, as it puts cash in your pocket. Realistically the feeding frenzy for buy to let drove house prices up to their artificailly high level, and has kept many first time buyers from entering the housing market. All they can afford to do is rent, which keeps money flowing out and keeps them poor. As first time buyers are the one who usually freshen the market up, then we should all be prepared fro the arse to fall out of the housing market at some point ........... and when it does I'm blaming you!! ;D <cough>Falkland Islands<cough> Thatcher at a point when she was loathed by the public, and if an election would have been called, she'd have lost by a landslide. Choses to go to war with Argentina over an island with no military or strategic value ......... in fact you could lose under a crumb on a map!! Now historically wars galvanise support behind the leader of the day, particularly if you win ...... and Argentina don't really have a militery history .......... We are now the target of terrorists, far worst than the IRA ever where! We're grading terrorist now .......... I think they're equally as bad as each other!! 1. So what do you suggest we do, release our equity. You're not going to do that and neither am I! Furthermore as I said working class people bought their houses thus the=y have equity I would also argue that the Brown insistance of keeping the interest rate so low has increasing property price that coupled with demand! Blame me if it makes you feel better 2. Not just an Island, this was about her regaining favour and oil. Imagine what would have happened if she hadn't have reacted, citezens of the UK losing their homes etc., 3. I've worked in the city for ages, and at least the IRA gave you a warning that it was going to go off. Whereas now it just happens. IRA never did anything on the scale of 7/7. So yes I blame Tony for this, because he involved himslef in something he didn't need to! Thought we where going to beg to differ!
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Post by addicted2venos on Oct 4, 2007 14:56:22 GMT -1
1. So what do you suggest we do, release our equity. You're not going to do that and neither am I! Furthermore as I said working class people bought their houses thus they have equity Well not everyone bought their council houses ....... as not everyone could get one. As tenants bought them, they effectively removed them from circulation and the councils didn't replace them .... as it wasn't in line with the thinking of the day!! I only own the property I live in. I'd suggest that housing was treated as more of a social issue than a business opportunity. The easiest way of doing this is to tax the hell out of 2nd and third home owners to remove their rental profit margin ....... owning a home you have no intention of living in is after all a luxury!! I would also argue that the Brown insistance of keeping the interest rate so low has increasing property price that coupled with demand! ....... but Brown doesn't set interest rates, the Bank of England do. I'm sure he makes his views known, but the final say isn't his!! I'd say demand has been the main driving factor though!! Blame me if it makes you feel better Don't worry I will!! ;D Not just an Island, this was about her regaining favour and oil. Imagine what would have happened if she hadn't have reacted, citezens of the UK losing their homes etc., We traded/gave away more important things than the Falkland Island ......... it was a cold calculated vote winner!! I've worked in the city for ages, and at least the IRA gave you a warning that it was going to go off. Whereas now it just happens. IRA never did anything on the scale of 7/7. So yes I blame Tony for this, because he involved himslef in something he didn't need to! Thought we where going to beg to differ! There were obviously cases where they didn't, or it got lost in the system ........ a bomb is a bomb!! While our unecessary involvement in Iraq had made us more of a target. I think our lifestyle, culture etc ....... would have made us a target for these people anyway. Their goal is that we should all be muslims living under shariah law after all, which we very clearly aren't!! I think if Tories would have been inpower they'd have waded in as blindly after Bush, as Blair did. They are just lucky they're out of power and have the luxury of hindsight!!
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Post by Neko Bazu on Oct 4, 2007 15:08:06 GMT -1
I would also argue that the Brown insistance of keeping the interest rate so low has increasing property price that coupled with demand! ....... but Brown doesn't set interest rates, the Bank of England do. I'm sure he makes his views known, but the final say isn't his!! I'd say demand has been the main driving factor though!! Jumping in only on this point; the BoE can only raise rates in line with inflation. Brown's system for calculating inflation invariably keeps rates at least a full percentage below "real" inflation (he doesn't account for mortgages, rising gas/electric prices etc), hence the bank have been unable to act because of his rules. Now that they have been able to, it's far too late. Mervyn King's done a stellar job in very difficult circumstances. Also, would demand not have gone down if the bank had been able to increase interest rates sooner? Brown's inflexibility and figure-fiddling (and most economists call it that) allowed people to borrow loads of money at a lower cost than should have been the case, and the country's paying the penalty both now (people like me who haven't a hope in hell of getting a house any time soon) and in the future (when the housing market falls and all that equity goes up in smoke, leaving people debt-ridden with no backing - it's already starting).
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Post by HURLOCK on Oct 4, 2007 15:50:11 GMT -1
Well not everyone bought their council houses ....... as not everyone could get one. As tenants bought them, they effectively removed them from circulation and the councils didn't replace them .... as it wasn't in line with the thinking of the day!! I only own the property I live in. I'd suggest that housing was treated as more of a social issue than a business opportunity. The easiest way of doing this is to tax the hell out of 2nd and third home owners to remove their rental profit margin ....... owning a home you have no intention of living in is after all a luxury!!!! So your point is people couldn't afford it then, and can't now. Thank you for confirm that landlords are providing a worthy service. And I have let my property to the council! ....... but Brown doesn't set interest ratesThe Bank of England do. I'm sure he makes his views known, but the final say isn't his!! I'd say demand has been the main driving factor though!!!!!! Brown did this from day one, shrewd move - however you knew he was dodgy from then on. However if you're going to tell he's not the ultimate decision maker on the issue - which lets face it is the basis of their tenure then you're niave We traded/gave away more important things than the Falkland Island ......... it was a cold calculated vote winner!!!!!! cynic ;D There were obviously cases where they didn't, or it got lost in the system ........ a bomb is a bomb!! While our unecessary involvement in Iraq had made us more of a target. I think our lifestyle, culture etc ....... would have made us a target for these people anyway. Their goal is that we should all be muslims living under shariah law after all, which we very clearly aren't!! I think if Tories would have been inpower they'd have waded in as blindly after Bush, as Blair did. They are just lucky they're out of power and have the luxury of hindsight!! Well yes no question there, however the current fuckers are far more eveil than any IRA terrorist, and I'm not sure if the Torries would have gone in given the evidence Blair had infront of him, that is something we can't really debate. Yes they backed him, but what else could they do. Blair really should be taken to task for this, as should any politician.
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Post by jh1980 on Oct 4, 2007 16:00:23 GMT -1
Na, Na, Na, you're evil!!! ;D ;D Sorry, feel much chirpier now home and chillin...
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Post by Arnold on Oct 4, 2007 18:13:16 GMT -1
Might have been a good speech but the man is a dick.
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Post by HURLOCK on Oct 5, 2007 8:06:49 GMT -1
Might have been a good speech but the man is a dick. Think he's OK, but I would say the same of Brown
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Post by addicted2venos on Oct 5, 2007 8:09:14 GMT -1
Might have been a good speech but the man is a dick. Think he's OK, but I would say the same of Brown No Arnie's right ......... he's a dick, and a shifty one at that!!
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Post by HURLOCK on Oct 5, 2007 8:14:19 GMT -1
Think he's OK, but I would say the same of Brown No Arnie's right ......... he's a dick, and a shifty one at that!! He is more of a statesman than Brown will ever be, a spineless C*nt who could have stopped us going to Iraq. Equaly accountable as Blair A mans who at his first question time in the commons used the excuse 'I've only been doing the job for 10 minutes' because he didn't know the answer to a question - pathetic response when he's been in the cabinet from day one! Scotch arsehole he really is, and has no presence whatsoever
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Post by addicted2venos on Oct 5, 2007 8:26:09 GMT -1
He is more of a statesman than Brown will ever be, a spineless C*nt who could have stopped us going to Iraq. Equaly accountable as Blair A mans who at his first question time in the commons used the excuse 'I've only been doing the job for 10 minutes' because he didn't know the answer to a question - pathetic response when he's been in the cabinet from day one! Scotch arsehole he really is, and has no presence whatsoever Okay ........... but the whole gig is preaching to the converted for you (and for me on the other end of the scale), as you're a dyed in the wool Conservative voter. They could stick Boris Johnson, Jim Davidson or whoever in as leader, and you'd still vote for them. I don't think Cameron is statesmanlike, he not even as good a leader as Micheal Howard, or as good a politician as Ken Clarke or Anne Widdicombe!!
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Post by HURLOCK on Oct 5, 2007 8:34:10 GMT -1
Okay ........... but the whole gig is preaching to the converted for you (and for me on the other end of the scale), as you're a dyed in the wool Conservative voter. They could stick Boris Johnson, Jim Davidson or whoever in as leader, and you'd still vote for them. I don't think Cameron is statesmanlike, he not even as good a leader as Micheal Howard, or as good a politician as Ken Clarke or Anne Widdicombe!![/quote]
Well yes, and I would vote Labour if I though it would change anything. However I do not feel they have my best interest at heart or that of the country.
For the record I was once a student and was into the Labour thing etc., however once I started working my perception changed. My mother being French is a socialist, and let face it France is really a benchmark. But thats not what new labour are about.
Labour lambast the conservatives, yet adopt similar or the same policies and brand it 'New Labour'
Ken Clarke is great politician, and I was disappointed that he didn't succeed Major.
Cammeron is not ideal, but he's what we've got and he'll get my support all the way
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