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Post by jh1980 on Jun 20, 2007 12:10:15 GMT -1
a Knighthood means fuck all now anyway you can apply for them out the back of the Times at Christmas I dunno, I'd quite like a (genuine) one! ;D
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Post by addicted2venos on Jun 20, 2007 12:16:18 GMT -1
The fact that the 'religious right' has enormous lobbying power in the US, and can effectively 'lean on' the President to sway US policy. Is frankly more worrying to me than the threat of Osama Bin Laden. Some good points there mate but while I agree with much of what you said, the bit quoted above needs clarification. At the end of the day, people acting in the name of OBL and his organisation target, attack and sometimes kill "our people" - ie: British citizens - in cold blood. Although the US Religious Right are pernicious and ideally would have no influence on anyone - at least they aren't committing murder (yet!) ..... I'm not sure that the grieving friends and relatives of civilians killed by US forces in Iraq would agree!!
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Post by jh1980 on Jun 20, 2007 12:23:17 GMT -1
..... I'm not sure that the grieving friends and relatives of civilians killed by US forces in Iraq would agree!! So the USA went to war in Iraq because of the Religious Right? Not Oil? Not the voices in Dubya's Head? Not some bizarre idea that invading Middle Eastern countries might exacerbate terrorism instead of eliminating it?! I dunno mate, say what you mean... but it sounds a little akin to the line of some minor political sect... perhaps the Workers' Revolutionary Party?!
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Post by addicted2venos on Jun 20, 2007 12:37:32 GMT -1
So the USA went to war in Iraq because of the Religious Right? Partly ......... I'd suggest you widen your view. But I have a feeling I've lost you ........ oh well!! Again partly Not the voices in Dubya's Head? Partly ......... but more the voices in his ear telling him to finish what they'd started under his Bush senior ..... and that Presidents who fight wars are popular with the US populus, but neglecting to mention that only war winning Presidents were popular!! Not some bizarre idea that invading Middle Eastern countries might exacerbate terrorism instead of eliminating it?! He would appear to have not seen that one coming!! I dunno mate, say what you mean... but it sounds a little akin to the line of some minor political sect... perhaps the Workers' Revolutionary Party?! I have said what I meant!!! ........ and I haven't joined the SWP or the Workers' Revolutionary Party or any other similarly themed group.
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Post by addicted2venos on Jun 20, 2007 12:38:01 GMT -1
a Knighthood means fuck all now anyway you can apply for them out the back of the Times at Christmas I dunno, I'd quite like a (genuine) one! ;D Conformist!!
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Post by jh1980 on Jun 20, 2007 12:44:30 GMT -1
So the USA went to war in Iraq because of the Religious Right? Partly ......... I'd suggest you widen your view. But I have a feeling I've lost you ........ oh well!! Partly ......... but more the voices in his ear telling him to finish what they'd started under his Bush senior ..... and that Presidents who fight wars are popular with the US populus, but neglecting to mention that only war winning Presidents were popular!! He would appear to have not seen that one coming!! I have said what I meant!!! ........ and I haven't joined the SWP or the Workers' Revolutionary Party or any other similarly themed group. No, you haven't lost me! I just don't recall that particular line of argument, I know the RR are a powerful lobby and that, but... okay maybe you have, I realised last night, lying awake in bed, that my once fine brain is in decline... Yes, his hawkish neocon advisers should ideally be rounded up and shot, I freely agree! No, well that was why I opposed the war at the time, and did what little I could to contribute to stopping it. No worries, I've known a few Trots in my time, I tend to think they are misguided, but not wrong on everything!
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Post by Ninja Squirrel on Jun 20, 2007 12:46:06 GMT -1
No, well that was why I opposed the war at the time, and did what little I could to contribute to stopping it Monkey Wrenching tanks?
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Post by jh1980 on Jun 20, 2007 12:47:03 GMT -1
I dunno, I'd quite like a (genuine) one! ;D Conformist!! Just saying, wouldn't say no... like you wouldn't say no if someone offered you the chance to be Lord Kieran of Sheffield, and to have Salma Hayek and Anneka Rice as your concubines!
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Post by jh1980 on Jun 20, 2007 12:49:10 GMT -1
No, well that was why I opposed the war at the time, and did what little I could to contribute to stopping it Monkey Wrenching tanks? No, I didn't do anything that would have got me shot in a less liberal country!
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Post by Ninja Squirrel on Jun 20, 2007 12:51:15 GMT -1
No, I didn't do anything that would have got me shot in a less liberal country! Ah sat on your arse and just said "No" Yay Democracy the political ideal where you don't have to do anything! Roll on the Fall of Democracy I'm off to North Korea
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Post by Mrs H on Jun 20, 2007 12:53:07 GMT -1
God this is all a bit serious isn't it? Someone throw a pie or something!
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Post by Ninja Squirrel on Jun 20, 2007 12:55:40 GMT -1
Apparently if you type in cream pie and look at images on google you see a womens arsehole full of spunk???
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Post by jh1980 on Jun 20, 2007 12:56:05 GMT -1
Ah sat on your arse and just said "No" Yay Democracy the political ideal where you don't have to do anything! Roll on the Fall of Democracy I'm off to North Korea No, went on demonstrations, tried to enthuse other students off their arses (with a moderate amount of success!) I know people who actually did climb into air bases but like I said they could have got serious shit for that... and I don't really agree with that brand of "Direct Action"
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Post by Mrs H on Jun 20, 2007 12:57:26 GMT -1
Is that what it's officially called Ninj??? Cream Pieing
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Post by Ninja Squirrel on Jun 20, 2007 12:58:19 GMT -1
Is that what it's officially called Ninj??? Cream Pieing According to google thats a cream pie?
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Post by jh1980 on Jun 20, 2007 12:58:41 GMT -1
God this is all a bit serious isn't it? Someone throw a pie or something! There is levity mixed in with the general heaviness... Start a better thread, why doncha babe? Cos you don't love me, you just keep me hanging onnnn... (sorry in an odd, musical mood today, occasionally it shows...!) ;D
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Post by addicted2venos on Jun 20, 2007 13:35:06 GMT -1
Just saying, wouldn't say no... like you wouldn't say no if someone offered you the chance to be Lord Kieran of Sheffield, and to have Salma Hayek and Anneka Rice as your concubines! ..... I think the concubines might sway it!!
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Post by Shippers on Jun 20, 2007 13:36:49 GMT -1
Is that what it's officially called Ninj??? Cream Pieing According to google thats a cream pie? not like those old days at the circus...
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Post by jh1980 on Jun 20, 2007 13:40:18 GMT -1
Just saying, wouldn't say no... like you wouldn't say no if someone offered you the chance to be Lord Kieran of Sheffield, and to have Salma Hayek and Anneka Rice as your concubines! ..... I think the concubines might sway it!! A little knowledge is a dangerous thing!!!
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Post by The Lucky C on Jun 20, 2007 15:05:27 GMT -1
Ah sat on your arse and just said "No" Yay Democracy the political ideal where you don't have to do anything! Roll on the Fall of Democracy I'm off to North Korea No, went on demonstrations, tried to enthuse other students off their arses (with a moderate amount of success!) I know people who actually did climb into air bases but like I said they could have got serious shit for that... and I don't really agree with that brand of "Direct Action" damn... two hours too late for debate. i marched.
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