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Post by spurrsgirl on Apr 25, 2007 11:55:53 GMT -1
I can't believe they reckon smokers should be encouraged to take paid time off work to help them stop smoking !! news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6589285.stmWhy on earth should any employer fund this?! It's totally beyond me. Isn't it bad enough that non smokers are expected to cover their fag ash colleagues whilst they disappear on numerous smoking breaks throughout the day without them getting more paid time off !! Did they need help to start smoking in the first place ?! I think not. Roll on 1st July I say !
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Post by Ninja Squirrel on Apr 25, 2007 12:00:34 GMT -1
Bugger off the average non smoker spends more time away from their offices than smokers
*source from Ninja squirrels office*
it is stupid though I smoke at work but I only have one in the morning and one in the afternoon but some of the more dedicated smokers do take the piss.
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Post by jh1980 on Apr 25, 2007 12:03:14 GMT -1
I'm with Ninj, and frankly anyone who comes on here hasn't a leg to stand on regarding timewasting at work!!! I'm not saying I agree with employers paying to "help" us, but I'm more than a little sick of the endless politically-correct attacks on smokers. It's no-one's business but our own! No offence though sweet cheeks...
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Post by weallloveleeds on Apr 25, 2007 12:06:19 GMT -1
Surely not allowing them smoking breaks other than during their lunch hour would be more helpful to them, and they would then be working for longer too...
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Post by Neko Bazu on Apr 25, 2007 12:06:38 GMT -1
If they're getting time off to help them stop smoking, I expect a pay rise to cover the hours spent at my desk in their absence, hauling arse to cover their arses!
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Post by jh1980 on Apr 25, 2007 12:07:25 GMT -1
Wall, Neko - what I said above!
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Post by spurrsgirl on Apr 25, 2007 12:12:02 GMT -1
I just find it so amazing that it is even suggested that they take paid time off to 'help' them give up something that they chose to do in the first place Bloody nicotine addicts should all be forced to sit in a room 5ft square with 14 people smoking round them, see how pleasant that feels........ ;D
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Post by HURLOCK on Apr 25, 2007 12:12:24 GMT -1
Dirty habit, that should not come out of the companies coffers!
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Post by Ninja Squirrel on Apr 25, 2007 12:13:55 GMT -1
Well I sit at my desk from 8am on till well when ever I have to go home I and sometimes work through lunch I feel that if I spend a maximum of 5 minutes out side, so for the whole day 10 mins away from my desk I can hardly see how beneficial it is to pay non smokers more to "cover" that ten minutes.
Its all swings and roundabouts its only because smokers are seen as the modern day leper's that every one gets uppity about it.
I bet in every office there is a non smoker who spends more time farting about near the kettle than doing any work and maybe complaining about the someone who clears off for two minutes sto have a smoke
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Post by weallloveleeds on Apr 25, 2007 12:15:30 GMT -1
Wall, Neko - what I said above! I can't be arsed arguing ...Blame Tony Blair for making it socially unacceptable for people to smoke.
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Post by Neko Bazu on Apr 25, 2007 12:16:23 GMT -1
Wall, Neko - what I said above! I pop on here while other stuff's running though, and at any rate my company permits some internet usage as long as the work gets done (and since I'm still employed, you can conclude my work is indeed getting done). Going off-site and being paid to kick the habit is another story - work isn't getting done! I hope the same offer is made for alcoholics, drug addicts etc!
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Post by jh1980 on Apr 25, 2007 12:16:32 GMT -1
I just find it so amazing that it is even suggested that they take paid time off to 'help' them give up something that they chose to do in the first place Bloody nicotine addicts should all be forced to sit in a room 5ft square with 14 people smoking round them, see how pleasant that feels........ ;D yeah but it IS an addiction, many people who want to quit need support... Very christian of you m'dear...
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Post by Neko Bazu on Apr 25, 2007 12:17:25 GMT -1
Well I sit at my desk from 8am on till well when ever I have to go home I and sometimes work through lunch I feel that if I spend a maximum of 5 minutes out side, so for the whole day 10 mins away from my desk I can hardly see how beneficial it is to pay non smokers more to "cover" that ten minutes. Ten minutes, I agree is fine - talking about letting people off site for what could realistically be up to two hours at a time is a bit different though!
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Post by spurrsgirl on Apr 25, 2007 12:17:54 GMT -1
I just find it so amazing that it is even suggested that they take paid time off to 'help' them give up something that they chose to do in the first place Bloody nicotine addicts should all be forced to sit in a room 5ft square with 14 people smoking round them, see how pleasant that feels........ ;D yeah but it IS an addiction, many people who want to quit need support... Very christian of you m'dear... Well if they want help they should pay for it themselves and not expect employers to do it !
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Post by jh1980 on Apr 25, 2007 12:19:02 GMT -1
its only because smokers are seen as the modern day leper's that every one gets uppity about it. I bet in every office there is a non smoker who spends more time farting about near the kettle than doing any work and maybe complaining about the someone who clears off for two minutes sto have a smoke Exalt when reloaded. The rest of you - chill and have a J! ;D
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Post by Neko Bazu on Apr 25, 2007 12:19:03 GMT -1
yeah but it IS an addiction, many people who want to quit need support... Very christian of you m'dear... Whoever put a gun to your head and forced you to smoke should foot the bill then
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Post by gt on Apr 25, 2007 12:19:42 GMT -1
Seems like an excuse to bang the tired old 'let's have a pop at smokers' drum. As far as I know the study was carried out looking at a financial balance of carrying out such proposals, and is just that - a study.
I've pretty much quit now, but I never smoked on work time. Even as an ex smoker I'm sure I won't become as pious as some non smokers though
For what it's worth I agree that smokers should not have time off to help quit
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Post by Ninja Squirrel on Apr 25, 2007 12:21:47 GMT -1
Well I sit at my desk from 8am on till well when ever I have to go home I and sometimes work through lunch I feel that if I spend a maximum of 5 minutes out side, so for the whole day 10 mins away from my desk I can hardly see how beneficial it is to pay non smokers more to "cover" that ten minutes. Ten minutes, I agree is fine - talking about letting people off site for what could realistically be up to two hours at a time is a bit different though! yeah that is taking the piss and who ever thought that up needs shooting (their all hang come the revolution ) I intend to quit on 1st june/july as I see the pub as the last refuge of the smoker and now thats gone why bother
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Post by Ninja Squirrel on Apr 25, 2007 12:22:47 GMT -1
its only because smokers are seen as the modern day leper's that every one gets uppity about it. I bet in every office there is a non smoker who spends more time farting about near the kettle than doing any work and maybe complaining about the someone who clears off for two minutes sto have a smoke Exalt when reloaded. The rest of you - chill and have a J! ;D Its bloody true!
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Post by jh1980 on Apr 25, 2007 12:25:14 GMT -1
I pop on here while other stuff's running though, and at any rate my company permits some internet usage as long as the work gets done (and since I'm still employed, you can conclude my work is indeed getting done). I hope the same offer is made for alcoholics, drug addicts etc! Oh... err... don't understand your job! That's extraordinarily generous? can you smoke in there too?! ;D I hope it is but I imagine they just get sacked!
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