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Post by 3spireswhite on May 31, 2006 9:45:32 GMT -1
With some players being released if they get promoted and not being able to command as big a wage at another club , do you think some players have deliberately not given 100% on the pitch. LEEDS UTD are one of, if not the best payers in the championship and if they had got promoted several players would have been released and would of had to take a cut in wages . With this being the case do they have any hunger or incentive to do well . Form would point to this , they only won one game from ten when it was in their own hands for getting automatic promotion .
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Post by coachiolalufc on May 31, 2006 10:46:12 GMT -1
shouldnt this be in the bollocks thread?
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Post by 3spireswhite on May 31, 2006 10:51:23 GMT -1
Do you think we just had a few off days then or what !
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Post by coachiolalufc on May 31, 2006 11:03:58 GMT -1
dip in form, lack of confidence in front of goal, if you look at the stats for the second half of the season, we picked up more points than any other team minus reading (last time i looked)
theres no way they wernt putting in the effort, apart from the final, they may as well have been a conference team on the pitch
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Post by jimbo on May 31, 2006 13:09:10 GMT -1
I see where your coming from 3spireswhite, it was either bad tactics by KB or the players weren't giving their all........... starting from the second half of Norwich until the end of the season i have never seen such negative play and is it bollocks lack of confidence.....
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Post by 3spireswhite on May 31, 2006 13:49:59 GMT -1
Yes the confidence bit is bollocks and so is the form bit , Watford , Coventry and Preston had better second halves of the season . Get your facts right coachiolufc .
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Post by JJ on May 31, 2006 19:25:03 GMT -1
Has anyone considered the fact that we just weren't good enough?!?!?
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Post by Katiekins on May 31, 2006 19:33:41 GMT -1
We are good enough but we just cant seem to perform when it really matters! like the race for second place and the play off final
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Post by JJ on May 31, 2006 19:34:50 GMT -1
Erm, does that not mean that we AREN'T good enough then?
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Post by Katiekins on May 31, 2006 19:36:57 GMT -1
in a way yea!
We played well at the beginning of the season but when it mattered we lost it
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Post by JJ on May 31, 2006 19:39:28 GMT -1
Very true. Although the games against Sheff Wed, Crewe, Hull etc did us no favours.
But you're right. We bottled it.
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Post by weallloveleeds on May 31, 2006 20:02:35 GMT -1
We rarely perform when it matters. Off the top of my head I can think of 3 times when we've screwed it up: Leeds 0 Villa 3 coca cola cup final, this season when chasing the blades and now in the playoffs. When the pressures on, we crumble.
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Post by 3spireswhite on May 31, 2006 20:29:31 GMT -1
If players were not good enough they could still give 100% and although some players have been running their socks off others have not looked interested . If your boss was to get rid of you for someone better , if you did really well at your job , but kept you if you did mediocre , would you give 100% .
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Post by Tony Yeboah's Lunchbox on May 31, 2006 20:31:46 GMT -1
You say the players are not giving 100% but do you not think that maybe its cos they are not motivated enough by our goalkeeping coach *cough* sorry manager.......
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Post by 3spireswhite on May 31, 2006 20:45:15 GMT -1
If you can't get motivated for a playoff final you should be got rid of , even if we do have a manager who seems to be the complete opposite of Boothroyd (no fear , go for it ) .
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Post by jimbo on May 31, 2006 20:49:36 GMT -1
You say the players are not giving 100% but do you not think that maybe its cos they are not motivated enough by our goalkeeping coach *cough* sorry manager....... Yeh i'm not a Blackwell out person but there is a number of problems with him, that fans are always commenting on...... - Motivational issues - Tactics - Clueless with money - Overall Leadership I don't know, i think it might be good next season to have some team outings for team bonding and stuff like teams used to do...... not only for the players to relax together but also get to know each other better..... Also i think it would be good to see the players get a bit mroe involved with the fans........
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Post by Tony Yeboah's Lunchbox on May 31, 2006 21:02:45 GMT -1
If you can't get motivated for a playoff final you should be got rid of , even if we do have a manager who seems to be the complete opposite of Boothroyd (no fear , go for it ) . We were not prepared mate.....look at the tactics.....a shambles....strikers win you games and we're overflowing with them....KB didnt know what to do and how to approach a game of that magnitude and we payed the price.
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Post by Tony Yeboah's Lunchbox on May 31, 2006 21:04:25 GMT -1
You say the players are not giving 100% but do you not think that maybe its cos they are not motivated enough by our goalkeeping coach *cough* sorry manager....... Yeh i'm not a Blackwell out person but there is a number of problems with him, that fans are always commenting on...... - Motivational issues - Tactics - Clueless with money - Overall Leadership I don't know, i think it might be good next season to have some team outings for team bonding and stuff like teams used to do...... not only for the players to relax together but also get to know each other better..... Also i think it would be good to see the players get a bit mroe involved with the fans........ The bonding was there.....the crossbar challenge thing was evident of that....also the various nights out they have.....we have quite a tight nit group.....they are all prepared to put their bodies on the line and give their all......but they need to be instructed better and that is where the buck stops.
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Post by Sterland (S4E) on May 31, 2006 21:21:26 GMT -1
Fuck that Jimbo, it was terrible tactics.. There was not one person in Cardiff, or probably across tho country that didn't audibly groan when they saw the teamsheet and the formation... I am surprised there wasn't a mini tidal wave in that churned up piece of shit water that runs real close to the ground!! I see where your coming from 3spireswhite, it was either bad tactics by KB or the players weren't giving their all........... starting from the second half of Norwich until the end of the season i have never seen such negative play and is it bollocks lack of confidence.....
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Post by Sterland (S4E) on May 31, 2006 21:25:24 GMT -1
Again bollocks mate, no offence meant.. Successful teams have someone up front who will bag them 20 goals.. Every one of them.. Want to tell me who and how many top scored for us Hulsey? And how many of those were braces? So a brace in a game lets him off for the next three or four does it? That's how it looked this season.. We had good strikers on paper but none on the pitch.... If you can't get motivated for a playoff final you should be got rid of , even if we do have a manager who seems to be the complete opposite of Boothroyd (no fear , go for it ) . We were not prepared mate.....look at the tactics.....a shambles....strikers win you games and we're overflowing with them....KB didnt know what to do and how to approach a game of that magnitude and we payed the price.
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