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Post by Tony Yeboah's Lunchbox on May 31, 2006 21:32:49 GMT -1
Again bollocks mate, no offence meant.. Successful teams have someone up front who will bag them 20 goals.. Every one of them.. Want to tell me who and how many top scored for us Hulsey? And how many of those were braces? So a brace in a game lets him off for the next three or four does it? That's how it looked this season.. We had good strikers on paper but none on the pitch.... We were not prepared mate.....look at the tactics.....a shambles....strikers win you games and we're overflowing with them....KB didnt know what to do and how to approach a game of that magnitude and we payed the price. No offense taken Ster.....its good we have different views. Personally the problem KB got himself into was buying all these strikers assuming they would gel and score automaticly....thing is he didnt know his first choice pairing and juggled around so often the two upfront on a match day just did not work as well as a settled regular combo......you cant play strikers like Healy and Blake on the wing either so again its all down imo to KB and his tactics......we dont seem to have the bright, original ideas that other managers think up.....we don't look creative/exciting.....we're just solid.....a solid bank of 2 fours and the two up top....well we even lost the two upfront in the end so it got worse.....throughout the season we invited pressure onto us in all games because of KB's tactics. If you gave a better manager a chance using what KB had at his disposal.....i think we'd see a lot more. With the players we have we should be doing better and not scraping 1-0/2-1 wins.....we hardly ever thrash sides now......KB has to go back to school in the summer
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Post by jimbo on Jun 1, 2006 7:54:31 GMT -1
Fuck that Jimbo, it was terrible tactics.. There was not one person in Cardiff, or probably across tho country that didn't audibly groan when they saw the teamsheet and the formation... I am surprised there wasn't a mini tidal wave in that churned up piece of shit water that runs real close to the ground!! I see where your coming from 3spireswhite, it was either bad tactics by KB or the players weren't giving their all........... starting from the second half of Norwich until the end of the season i have never seen such negative play and is it bollocks lack of confidence..... Lol we've been playing negative tactics most of the season a 4-3-3 that looked like a 4-5-1..... we haven't got the players for that and that formation would never make full use of all the strikers we have...... but you can't put it all down to bad tactics because before the Norwich game we were playing the same formation and getting goals and results....... However with Cardiff i won't disagree that it was Blackwell's fault, everyone there knew before we kicked off and in the first 5/10 mins.... Killa at left back and Frazer instead of Healy..... not to mention just kicking the ball anywhere into Watford's half.......
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Post by Teesside White on Jun 1, 2006 9:53:23 GMT -1
i dont care wot anyone says, i thoroughly enjoyed ths season, it really has given me hope that we are back and we WILL go up automatically next season
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Post by T C on Jun 1, 2006 10:30:15 GMT -1
This was a very good and interesting post and i would have liked to have commented earlier. I think that Boothroyd got it right when he said before the final that KB crumbles under pressure. The team selection was abominable, tactics totally wrong and Yes, apart from 2-3 players, Leeds were not up for it. Yes they are good enough or we wouldn't have finished where we did, would we. Maybe Bates told them it was too soon as it didn't fit in with his long term business plan? possibly. More likely though a lot of them realised that they would be out of contract if we had gone up and didn't put the effort in. Sorry all but the only good thing I saw that fateful day that was good was the Fans attitude in singing even when we were 2.0 down.
Mind you..... Would we have survived in Premiership? Who cares , the 30 million revenue would have been handy even if we'd bounced back down. Personally I want us back up where we belong when we are ready and not before.
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Post by coachiolalufc on Jun 1, 2006 14:31:15 GMT -1
Yes the confidence bit is bollocks and so is the form bit , Watford , Coventry and Preston had better second halves of the season . Get your facts right coachiolufc . bollock my arse, you obviously form your opinions on other peoples opinions, i have no time for people like you.
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Post by mortontheblade on Jun 1, 2006 14:32:53 GMT -1
Yes the confidence bit is bollocks and so is the form bit , Watford , Coventry and Preston had better second halves of the season . Get your facts right coachiolufc . bollock my arse, you obviously form your opinions on other peoples opinions, i have no time for people like you. aye carumba, inter fighting in the leeds camp how are you coach??
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Post by coachiolalufc on Jun 1, 2006 14:34:38 GMT -1
bollock my arse, you obviously form your opinions on other peoples opinions, i have no time for people like you. aye carumba, inter fighting in the leeds camp how are you coach?? pissed off at wankers who dont go to a match so they base there opinons on what theve heard, who the fuck honestly thinks that footballers didnt want to get promoted to the prem, its the most rediculous thing ive ever heard, its not serie A
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Post by mortontheblade on Jun 1, 2006 14:38:39 GMT -1
aye carumba, inter fighting in the leeds camp how are you coach?? pissed off at wankers who dont go to a match so they base there opinons on what theve heard, who the fuck honestly thinks that footballers didnt want to get promoted to the prem, its the most rediculous thing ive ever heard, its not serie A i'm guessing hes not in your good books then we all have those sort of fans... maybe he needs to express his point better than he did
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Post by Super Danny Webber on Jun 1, 2006 14:40:09 GMT -1
Morton have you renewed your season ticket?
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Post by T C on Jun 1, 2006 14:40:15 GMT -1
aye carumba, inter fighting in the leeds camp how are you coach?? pissed off at wankers who dont go to a match so they base there opinons on what theve heard, who the fuck honestly thinks that footballers didnt want to get promoted to the prem, its the most rediculous thing ive ever heard, its not serie A Players are influenced by their management and owners. Who's to say that Bates didn't say to them " Its okay lads. don't matter if we don't go up this year, just go out there and enjoy yourselves" Or words to that effect. And lets be honest, the team selection was diabolical!
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Post by mortontheblade on Jun 1, 2006 14:40:57 GMT -1
Morton have you renewed your season ticket? at bdtbl, yes ages ago right i'm off.... again, cya
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Post by coachiolalufc on Jun 1, 2006 14:41:51 GMT -1
pissed off at wankers who dont go to a match so they base there opinons on what theve heard, who the fuck honestly thinks that footballers didnt want to get promoted to the prem, its the most rediculous thing ive ever heard, its not serie A Players are influenced by their management and owners. Who's to say that Bates didn't say to them " Its okay lads. don't matter if we don't go up this year, just go out there and enjoy yourselves" Or words to that effect. And lets be honest, the team selection was diabolical! are you saying KEN BATES, was saying its ok if we dont win the most lucrative match in the whole of football?
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Post by T C on Jun 1, 2006 14:49:36 GMT -1
Players are influenced by their management and owners. Who's to say that Bates didn't say to them " Its okay lads. don't matter if we don't go up this year, just go out there and enjoy yourselves" Or words to that effect. And lets be honest, the team selection was diabolical! are you saying KEN BATES, was saying its ok if we dont win the most lucrative match in the whole of football? No but he has said that Leeds did better than he anticipated and Planned for. Okay the money would have been a godsend but if he needed money, Bates would have "found " it. Leeds are now financially a lot more solvent but the Club still needs development in lots of areas and thats what concerns him. Promotion itself isn't enough, he wants us to stay there and challange, not make up the numbers. And he will . As a Leeds fan I'm sure you will agree that the lads weren't up for it in the final, so you tell me why?
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Post by coachiolalufc on Jun 1, 2006 14:53:49 GMT -1
are you saying KEN BATES, was saying its ok if we dont win the most lucrative match in the whole of football? No but he has said that Leeds did better than he anticipated and Planned for. Okay the money would have been a godsend but if he needed money, Bates would have "found " it. Leeds are now financially a lot more solvent but the Club still needs development in lots of areas and thats what concerns him. Promotion itself isn't enough, he wants us to stay there and challange, not make up the numbers. And he will . As a Leeds fan I'm sure you will agree that the lads weren't up for it in the final, so you tell me why? there deffo wernt up for it, i think i know why, they made a big mistake, if you look at the reports in the days running upto the match, the preperations were 'treat it like another match' trying to play it cool and keep level headed, they did everything the same including the warmuo and the crossbar challenge. huge mistake because watford were really fired up. we fucked up!
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Post by T C on Jun 1, 2006 14:57:26 GMT -1
No but he has said that Leeds did better than he anticipated and Planned for. Okay the money would have been a godsend but if he needed money, Bates would have "found " it. Leeds are now financially a lot more solvent but the Club still needs development in lots of areas and thats what concerns him. Promotion itself isn't enough, he wants us to stay there and challange, not make up the numbers. And he will . As a Leeds fan I'm sure you will agree that the lads weren't up for it in the final, so you tell me why? there deffo wernt up for it, i think i know why, they made a big mistake, if you look at the reports in the days running upto the match, the preperations were 'treat it like another match' trying to play it cool and keep level headed, they did everything the same including the warmuo and the crossbar challenge. huge mistake because watford were really fired up. we fucked up! Yes I agree with you, we did fuck up. Be honest, did they look like they really wanted it ? I don't think so... does make you wonder doesn't it...?
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Post by coachiolalufc on Jun 1, 2006 15:00:04 GMT -1
i can see why people wonder but i just cant say that leeds would do that, it was a terrible day, i dont wanna go through it again
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Post by T C on Jun 1, 2006 15:03:29 GMT -1
i can see why people wonder but i just cant say that leeds would do that, it was a terrible day, i dont wanna go through it again No my good friend, neither do I. seen it too many times over the last 30 odd years, but thats football. Whoever said its only a game didn't come from Leeds that's for sure.
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Post by coachiolalufc on Jun 1, 2006 15:05:33 GMT -1
i can see why people wonder but i just cant say that leeds would do that, it was a terrible day, i dont wanna go through it again No my good friend, neither do I. seen it too many times over the last 30 odd years, but thats football. Whoever said its only a game didn't come from Leeds that's for sure. too right
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Post by 3spireswhite on Jun 2, 2006 10:38:21 GMT -1
Yes the confidence bit is bollocks and so is the form bit , Watford , Coventry and Preston had better second halves of the season . Get your facts right coachiolufc . bollock my arse, you obviously form your opinions on other peoples opinions, i have no time for people like you.
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Post by 3spireswhite on Jun 2, 2006 10:52:21 GMT -1
Yes the confidence bit is bollocks and so is the form bit , Watford , Coventry and Preston had better second halves of the season . Get your facts right coachiolufc . bollock my arse, you obviously form your opinions on other peoples opinions, i have no time for people like you. Look it was a bollocks for a bollocks and was not mean't to upset you . This is the first time i have used one of these sites and it was my first ever thread . I was expecting a good debate from what i thought was a good subject and from every other reply that is what i have got . To get a slating from my very first reply was a bit offputting so i probably reacted when the next reply was supportive . Anyway have a good birthday on tuesday , it is my daughters 2nd birthday as well .
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