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Post by Natty on Nov 10, 2008 17:57:30 GMT -1
Barnsley look into their legal options after Iain Hume suffered a fractured skull and internal bleeding in Saturday's defeat by Sheffield United.
Hume is in a "stable condition" in a high dependency unit in hospital after undergoing surgery on a fractured skull following a challenge by Chris Morgan.
"The club may be seeking legal advice on the matter," Reds manager Simon Davey told BBC Radio Sheffield.
"We've ended up with a life-threatening injury and a player in a hospital bed."
A Blades statement read: "Sheffield United are saddened and concerned to hear that Iain Hume is being monitored in a high dependency unit and wish him a speedy and full recovery."
wish him a speedy recovery we could of lost a player here.
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Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Nov 10, 2008 17:59:58 GMT -1
eep, they may sue morgs
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Post by Remember Jesus on Nov 11, 2008 8:44:12 GMT -1
No place for that type of challenge in football.
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Post by Golden_Boy™ on Nov 11, 2008 8:47:19 GMT -1
eep, they may sue morgs Surely West Ham will pay out?
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Post by addicted2venos on Nov 11, 2008 9:29:31 GMT -1
I think it's just Davey sounding off, as he seems to have complained about everything to do with Saturday, not just the Morgan/Hume incident. Maybe he's after Warnocks crown!! With any case you have to prove intent or negligence on the defendants part, which in sport is usually quite difficult.
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Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Nov 11, 2008 11:17:53 GMT -1
they'd get no where if they sued anyway..... i'm not sure you can even establish morgs deliberately went to elbow hume.*realises A2V has just said this
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Post by Remember Jesus on Nov 11, 2008 13:59:57 GMT -1
I think it's just Davey sounding off, as he seems to have complained about everything to do with Saturday, not just the Morgan/Hume incident. Maybe he's after Warnocks crown!! With any case you have to prove intent or negligence on the defendants part, which in sport is usually quite difficult. I'm sure if someone stuck an elbow at the side of your head and you ended up in hospital with a fractured skull you'd be looking for some action taking against the bloke who did it to you.
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Post by addicted2venos on Nov 11, 2008 15:02:01 GMT -1
I'm sure if someone stuck an elbow at the side of your head and you ended up in hospital with a fractured skull you'd be looking for some action taking against the bloke who did it to you. If that's what Hume wants to do then that's up to him, but proving intent or negligence in sporting cases is notoriously difficult. We haven't heard from Hume yet obviously, just rather a lot from Simon Davey who as more time passes seems to find more and more to be upset by. After the match it was just the dodgy penalty award he was upset about, the next day it was bad challenges. Then unfortunately Hume's was taken into hospital, and all of a sudden we'd spend all match beating your defenseless team of angels up while the ref jammed his thumb up his ass. I'm puzzled as well as to why your medical staff didn't send Hume off to hospital to be assessed and monitored, as is standard practice with head injuries, and instead packed him off home. You are right though if someone struck me with an elbow, I'd sue them. But at the end of the day my job involves sitting in front of a computer .......... so I wouldn't have a problem proving my case!!
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Post by Remember Jesus on Nov 12, 2008 11:25:27 GMT -1
I'm sure if someone stuck an elbow at the side of your head and you ended up in hospital with a fractured skull you'd be looking for some action taking against the bloke who did it to you. If that's what Hume wants to do then that's up to him, but proving intent or negligence in sporting cases is notoriously difficult. We haven't heard from Hume yet obviously, just rather a lot from Simon Davey who as more time passes seems to find more and more to be upset by. After the match it was just the dodgy penalty award he was upset about, the next day it was bad challenges. Then unfortunately Hume's was taken into hospital, and all of a sudden we'd spend all match beating your defenseless team of angels up while the ref jammed his thumb up his ass. I'm puzzled as well as to why your medical staff didn't send Hume off to hospital to be assessed and monitored, as is standard practice with head injuries, and instead packed him off home. You are right though if someone struck me with an elbow, I'd sue them. But at the end of the day my job involves sitting in front of a computer .......... so I wouldn't have a problem proving my case!! The laws of the land apply whether you are on a sporting field or not.(ask Duncan Ferguson) I agree that proving intent is difficult but it is not impossible. If it was a mis-timed tackle then fair enough. But this was not. Morgan resorted to his old Penistone Grammar school days and dished out a bit of corrective to Hume who to be fair up to that point had given as good as he got. As for Davey's other whinings - well he should learn to take defeat on the chin.
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Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Nov 12, 2008 13:35:08 GMT -1
If that's what Hume wants to do then that's up to him, but proving intent or negligence in sporting cases is notoriously difficult. We haven't heard from Hume yet obviously, just rather a lot from Simon Davey who as more time passes seems to find more and more to be upset by. After the match it was just the dodgy penalty award he was upset about, the next day it was bad challenges. Then unfortunately Hume's was taken into hospital, and all of a sudden we'd spend all match beating your defenseless team of angels up while the ref jammed his thumb up his ass. I'm puzzled as well as to why your medical staff didn't send Hume off to hospital to be assessed and monitored, as is standard practice with head injuries, and instead packed him off home. You are right though if someone struck me with an elbow, I'd sue them. But at the end of the day my job involves sitting in front of a computer .......... so I wouldn't have a problem proving my case!! The laws of the land apply whether you are on a sporting field or not.(ask Duncan Ferguson) I agree that proving intent is difficult but it is not impossible. If it was a mis-timed tackle then fair enough. But this was not. Morgan resorted to his old Penistone Grammar school days and dished out a bit of corrective to Hume who to be fair up to that point had given as good as he got. As for Davey's other whinings - well he should learn to take defeat on the chin. not true - by taking part in a sport you're expecting the dangers and consequences of participating..... hence why Morgan hasn't been arrested for GBH.
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Post by Fizzy Bread on Nov 12, 2008 13:40:54 GMT -1
Has anyone got a link to a video of it? I'm not sadistic or whatever, I just haven't seen the challenge but the impression I got from peeps who had seen it reckoned the challenge was pretty innocuous and was one of those that was a lot worse than it looked...
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Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Nov 12, 2008 14:09:14 GMT -1
Has anyone got a link to a video of it? I'm not sadistic or whatever, I just haven't seen the challenge but the impression I got from peeps who had seen it reckoned the challenge was pretty innocuous and was one of those that was a lot worse than it looked... if you go to the barnsley vs sheffield uinted thread (on the barnsley board) its in there somewhere....
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Post by Scottsus of Nazareth on Nov 12, 2008 17:02:33 GMT -1
Difficult to prove intent??? He swung an elbow at Hume's head before the ball was near them and before he jumped. Why else would you do this unless you intended to elbox someone in the head. Granted, Morgan almost certainly didn't want to cause the damage he did but at the end of the day if you lash out at someone theres an obvious risk you're taking.
And when Davey was moaning about the penalty, it wasn't the decision itself, it was the facty that the decision was given after play had continued and it was given by the linesman at the other end of the pitch. But thats another story and I can get over that. What sickens me is the feeling that Morgan and Sheff Utd won't get any further punishment whatsoever, be it legal or not.
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Post by GresleyRam©®™ on Nov 12, 2008 17:08:49 GMT -1
BURN HIM!!!!!
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Post by Mrs H on Nov 13, 2008 8:52:52 GMT -1
Well what he lacks in football ability he makes up for in breaking people's heads.
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Post by addicted2venos on Nov 13, 2008 9:39:00 GMT -1
Difficult to prove intent??? He swung an elbow at Hume's head before the ball was near them and before he jumped. Why else would you do this unless you intended to elbox someone in the head. Granted, Morgan almost certainly didn't want to cause the damage he did but at the end of the day if you lash out at someone theres an obvious risk you're taking. And when Davey was moaning about the penalty, it wasn't the decision itself, it was the facty that the decision was given after play had continued and it was given by the linesman at the other end of the pitch. But thats another story and I can get over that. What sickens me is the feeling that Morgan and Sheff Utd won't get any further punishment whatsoever, be it legal or not. The actual movement of Morgans elbow was minimal. Most of the momentum in the collision was provided by Hume himself who was trying to jump into Morgan, as most strikers do when they are jumping for a ball they're not favourite to win. Morgan had his arms raised to get leverage on the header, and never took his eyes off the ball. I don't think he meant anything other than to pump another aimless long clearance header forwards, which is how Morgan plays. It was very difficult to pick out what Davey was upset about, as he whinged about everything to do with the game. I think most it was Warnock-esque sour grapes about losing the game. He never mentioned the push on Naughton for your goal, or the fact that Da Silva started the trouble with Ehiogu, but neither did Blackwell. Most likely because we won. Like I said in an earlier post Davey appears to be now trying to paint Saturdays match as a game where we as a team of 'bad men' spent 90 minutes physically beating the hell out your 'team of angels' while the ref knelt fellating Blackwell on the touchline ....... which is clearly rubbish!!
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Post by Remember Jesus on Nov 13, 2008 10:05:19 GMT -1
tis true.....................
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Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Nov 13, 2008 14:58:58 GMT -1
the fa say they may still action....
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Post by addicted2venos on Nov 13, 2008 15:11:48 GMT -1
the fa say they may still action.... The FA said that there would be no further charges. Then Barnsley/Davey chucked their toys out, and said they were going to send a 'highlight reel' of Morgan from Saturday to show he's a wrong un and doubts about it. Of course if the FA were to look at it and find against Morgan, it may just help 'Wavey Davey' in his own case as he's been charged by the FA for his comments about the ref on Saturday!!
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Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Nov 13, 2008 15:21:47 GMT -1
... well sky are saying the fa have confirmed that they may take further action...
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