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Post by ITFC Dudette6 on Oct 30, 2008 17:51:22 GMT -1
no one is denying she's a slag bbc news - going through everything AGAIN! i think the bbc like being part of the main story. I know. I was on the BBC News website earlier, and it was second story on there. Now it's first story again, and above a story about unrest in Congo, which to me seems a far more important issue for Gordon Brown and David Cameron to talk about.
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Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Oct 30, 2008 17:55:46 GMT -1
bbc radio 2 controller resigns....
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Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Oct 30, 2008 17:57:25 GMT -1
no one is denying she's a slag bbc news - going through everything AGAIN! i think the bbc like being part of the main story. I know. I was on the BBC News website earlier, and it was second story on there. Now it's first story again, and above a story about unrest in Congo, which to me seems a far more important issue for Gordon Brown and David Cameron to talk about. i blame poor sales of Um-bongo for the unrest in the congo....
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Post by ITFC Dudette6 on Oct 30, 2008 18:03:08 GMT -1
I know. I was on the BBC News website earlier, and it was second story on there. Now it's first story again, and above a story about unrest in Congo, which to me seems a far more important issue for Gordon Brown and David Cameron to talk about. i blame poor sales of Um-bongo for the unrest in the congo.... Rumbles in the jungles? What about the credit crunch? There must be a story about the credit crunch today!
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Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Oct 30, 2008 18:18:56 GMT -1
i blame poor sales of Um-bongo for the unrest in the congo.... Rumbles in the jungles? What about the credit crunch? There must be a story about the credit crunch today! the credit crunch is depressing
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Post by ---------a on Oct 30, 2008 21:55:46 GMT -1
I think Russell Brand did nicely with the girl he shagged.
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Post by ovechkin8 on Oct 31, 2008 14:54:59 GMT -1
It was a underhand way of getting a cheap laugh. Its symptomatic of ever increasing chavviness.
Suppose you received an unpleasant call. I suppose you would just pass it off ?
There's nothing hilarious about it. Just an indication of a bankruptcy of talent. Is this cutting edge ? Calling up someone making rude comments . Its childish .
That said the situation where it has emerged in Parliament as an issue of the day when there are other serious issues that need dealing with, crime, immigration, health and education etc does leave the sense of politicians jumping on the bandwagon.
The Sun also are hardly in a position to take a moral tone considering some of the rubbish they come out with.
The serious issue also lies with the BBC funded by the taxpayer forking out huge salaries for reading autocues and the like whilst sacking technicians and the like.
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Post by PASTIE on Nov 1, 2008 0:18:49 GMT -1
Anybody else watch Newsnight? I thought they had it spot on. Good comics sail close to the wind - they push boundaries and that is how things evolve and change. By definition, they sometimes cross the line. I didn't listen at the time and am not either of the two people who complained when it was broadcast. I have listened to it in its entirety on YouTube and, frankly, was disappointed by how dull it was. It could at least have been clever - it was just puerile and childish, disappointingly lacking in artfulness - a shame as I actually rate both of them. However, none of that justifies the tabloid driven moralising of the last couple of days. Slapped wrist, know your boundaries better and take great care to be funnier; that would be enough. From what I coudl see, Andrew Sachs would agree. A furore over disappointingly little and I'm with the others on here who long for the days of Chris Morris and something genuinely and dangerously outrageous. No defence of either from me - it isn't worth it. However, before any of you doubt Russel Brand's qualities I recommend you read his weekly football column in the Guardian. Very, very good. PASTIE FOR EL PRESIDENTE erm, thanks
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Post by PASTIE on Nov 1, 2008 0:31:09 GMT -1
And just to pick up on one point, amid all this nonsense something unspeakable is happening in DCR, something that has been of unimaginable horror for most of that last 14 years, if not the last 40 years. 4 million dead in a "war" largely funded by mineral exploitation and tolerated by the international community as it very much suits our interests. We tolerate this, but we cannot tolerate a crass remark from a TV show host so the latter takes pole position on the news? On so many levels, we should be ashamed if the media really does reflect our priorities.
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Post by ovechkin8 on Nov 1, 2008 9:22:18 GMT -1
Why should we tolerate it. Rudeness that is and lack of manners ? With regards to the DRC you could fill hour after hour of broadcasting troubles from around the globe from the killings in the Brazilia favelas , the persecution of homosexuals in Iran , the virtual slavery of Columbian peasant serfs and so on and so forth. People will always regard things happening closer to their local sphere as of more importance. As far as I'm concerned it would be better if we minded our own business and only take action when events directly threaten us so heres to an immediate withdrawal from Iraq which was never our business anyway and Afghanistan. If these morons want to kill each other and live like savages let them, just dont keep inviting them subsequently into Britain as so called refugees or asylum seekers. As for the this sordid affair as is typical and unsurprising the trollop involved now has an agent and doubtless will be exposing herself in some redtop or the slew of gutter celeb mags ie Closer etc etc. She's just as bad as these two talentless idiots. Pushing the envelope ? What a wonderful celeb infatuated ,fame obsessed country we've become.
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Post by Neko Bazu on Nov 1, 2008 12:05:41 GMT -1
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Post by GresleyRam©®™ on Nov 1, 2008 12:20:59 GMT -1
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Post by CHOPPER READ on Nov 1, 2008 12:29:08 GMT -1
And so everything ever said on telly will now be reviewed?
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Post by GresleyRam©®™ on Nov 1, 2008 13:01:49 GMT -1
Looks that way Chops - it was 18 months ago FFS! ;D
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Post by HURLOCK on Nov 1, 2008 13:48:21 GMT -1
Our country is in financial turmoil, teenagers are killing themselves on our street but that seems to have no relevance, our tabloids and politicians consider the feeling of an old man and his slag of a grandaughter to be more important.
This country is fucked for this very reason!
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Post by PASTIE on Nov 2, 2008 23:33:52 GMT -1
Why should we tolerate it. Rudeness that is and lack of manners ? With regards to the DRC you could fill hour after hour of broadcasting troubles from around the globe from the killings in the Brazilia favelas , the persecution of homosexuals in Iran , the virtual slavery of Columbian peasant serfs and so on and so forth. People will always regard things happening closer to their local sphere as of more importance. As far as I'm concerned it would be better if we minded our own business and only take action when events directly threaten us so heres to an immediate withdrawal from Iraq which was never our business anyway and Afghanistan. If these morons want to kill each other and live like savages let them, just dont keep inviting them subsequently into Britain as so called refugees or asylum seekers. As for the this sordid affair as is typical and unsurprising the trollop involved now has an agent and doubtless will be exposing herself in some redtop or the slew of gutter celeb mags ie Closer etc etc. She's just as bad as these two talentless idiots. Pushing the envelope ? What a wonderful celeb infatuated ,fame obsessed country we've become. I feel my point is being missed here! "Why should we tolerate it. Rudeness that is and lack of manners ?" It was not my meaning that the actions of these two should be tolerated; it was intended as an expression that the prioritisation of the news on those days was all wrong. "People will always regard things happening closer to their local sphere as of more importance." Fair point, but they will only always continue to do so unless educated and informed otherwise - which is where the news editorial and production teams have a responsibility - I fear that the pursuit of scandal, pub conversations and ratings is too irresistable... I am with you 100 % over the Afghan and Iraq conflicts, but not on the grounds that they didn't threaten us, but because their expressed objectives were clearly untrue and that, in my opinion, the procurement of assets and strategic territory was the poorly hidden agenda. The shamelessness of the deceit just makes it all the more distasteful. However, I have issues with your next point: "If these morons want to kill each other and live like savages..." makes my skin creep as an expression and I hope I am misinterpreting it. If there is a suggestion that the families fleeing into the forests or cramming into the refugee camps as shown on the BBC news over the last few days is their own choice then I'd be outraged - but surely that cannot be the intended point? This is not morons killing each other; this is two politically driven and heavily funded and armed sets of maniacs tearing through the countryside and ruining or ending the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocent and desperate people. 4 million deaths were surely not the deaths of 4 million "morons". If the suggestion is that we have nothing to do with this then I would look at where the funding comes from, where the armaments come from and where the mined minerals end up as their final destination. To me, there has been as much shame in our lack of intervention in this region (where the chaotic exploitation of precious metals has suited us) as there is in the regions where the lack of control over resources has been our fear. If, and again I hope I misinterpret, the suggestion is that we should "just let them get on with it" then I can only feel revulsion at any such sentiment. I apologise if I'm misreading, but I would so err away from the use of the word "savages". As for allowing them in as refugees or asylum seekers, then if the applicants are militia I see your point. If they are women with young families fleeing systematic rape and the use of HIV/AIDS as a weapon of genocide then, frankly, I'd rather they came and sheltered in my spare room than were left to take their chances.
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Post by PASTIE on Nov 2, 2008 23:35:34 GMT -1
Why should we tolerate it. Rudeness that is and lack of manners ? With regards to the DRC you could fill hour after hour of broadcasting troubles from around the globe from the killings in the Brazilia favelas , the persecution of homosexuals in Iran , the virtual slavery of Columbian peasant serfs and so on and so forth. People will always regard things happening closer to their local sphere as of more importance. As far as I'm concerned it would be better if we minded our own business and only take action when events directly threaten us so heres to an immediate withdrawal from Iraq which was never our business anyway and Afghanistan. If these morons want to kill each other and live like savages let them, just dont keep inviting them subsequently into Britain as so called refugees or asylum seekers. As for the this sordid affair as is typical and unsurprising the trollop involved now has an agent and doubtless will be exposing herself in some redtop or the slew of gutter celeb mags ie Closer etc etc. She's just as bad as these two talentless idiots. Pushing the envelope ? What a wonderful celeb infatuated ,fame obsessed country we've become. I feel my point is being missed here! "Why should we tolerate it. Rudeness that is and lack of manners ?" It was not my meaning that the actions of these two should be tolerated; it was intended as an expression that the prioritisation of the news on those days was all wrong. "People will always regard things happening closer to their local sphere as of more importance." Fair point, but they will only always continue to do so unless educated and informed otherwise - which is where the news editorial and production teams have a responsibility - I fear that the pursuit of scandal, pub conversations and ratings is too irresistable... I am with you 100 % over the Afghan and Iraq conflicts, but not on the grounds that they didn't threaten us, but because their expressed objectives were clearly untrue and that, in my opinion, the procurement of assets and strategic territory was the poorly hidden agenda. The shamelessness of the deceit just makes it all the more distasteful. However, I have issues with your next point: "If these morons want to kill each other and live like savages..." makes my skin creep as an expression and I hope I am misinterpreting it. If there is a suggestion that the families fleeing into the forests or cramming into the refugee camps as shown on the BBC news over the last few days is their own choice then I'd be outraged - but surely that cannot be the intended point? This is not morons killing each other; this is two politically driven and heavily funded and armed sets of maniacs tearing through the countryside and ruining or ending the lives of hundreds of thousands of innocent and desperate people. 4 million deaths were surely not the deaths of 4 million "morons". If the suggestion is that we have nothing to do with this then I would look at where the funding comes from, where the armaments come from and where the mined minerals end up as their final destination. To me, there has been as much shame in our lack of intervention in this region (where the chaotic exploitation of precious metals has suited us) as there is in the regions where the lack of control over resources has been our fear. If, and again I hope I misinterpret, the suggestion is that we should "just let them get on with it" then I can only feel revulsion at any such sentiment. I apologise if I'm misreading, but I would so err away from the use of the word "savages". As for allowing them in as refugees or asylum seekers, then if the applicants are militia I see your point. If they are women with young families fleeing systematic rape and the use of HIV/AIDS as a weapon of genocide then, frankly, I'd rather they came and sheltered in my spare room than were left to take their chances.
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Post by PASTIE on Nov 2, 2008 23:58:16 GMT -1
I wasn't just reinforcing a point... proboards timed me out, but I'd seen it coming and copied my reply. Pasted and posted, and suddenly both came up. I fear that the technology that supports us here is starting to creak?
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Post by Mrs H on Nov 3, 2008 10:31:35 GMT -1
How did I know Frankie Boyle would get dragged into this argument at some stage. Some of his comments about Princess Diana were foul but very very very funny. Are we going to have to endure sitcoms like After Your Gone and The Worst Week of My Life because it's PC and tolerable?
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Post by Travis on Nov 3, 2008 12:17:29 GMT -1
How astoundingly shocking to find out that the tainted innocent at the centre of it all was on the front page of the News Of The World, dressed provocatively, and promising every detail of her sexual encounters with Russell Brand. The poor girl is really struggling hard to preserve her immaculate reputation. I read a few interesting articles in The Observer yesterday, and more surprisingly also one in the Sunday Express that made a few points about the whole row exposing big differences in attitudes towards the incident according to which generation a person belonged to. One very pertinent point was made along the lines that a significant proportion of the older readership of the likes of The Sun and The Daily Mail - the two most vocal publications - would happily class 70's comedians like Bernard Manning, Jim Davison etc as being extremely funny, despite the sexist, relgious and racist humour they used, so it seems a little hypocritical of those people to deem the 'stunt' unacceptable on the grounds of age.
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