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Post by PureOldGold on May 10, 2008 21:14:12 GMT -1
Err, this is Sylvan Ebanks-has appeared before Plymouth magistrates to face a charge of assault after an alleged bottling incident outside a Union Street nightclub-Blake that we're talking about here, right? Southdown - Exactly the point that I was going to make. SEB won't have a chance to cause any trouble off the pitch if he gets put in nick. Londonwolf - Yes we have got SEB but we could also keep Eastwood who scored 4 goals in his first 3 games which was a better impact than SEB. Then he scores in Bulgaria for Wales and then on his return he gets dropped, as for Kyle having a bigger impact  After Kyle had played in 4 matches for Wolves that we had lost 3 and drawn one he said he was really enjoying things with Wolves (loser IMO). JODIE - Your right he was never given a chance Mad Mick realises that Eastwood has 20+ goals in him that is why he stopped the loan to Coventry. Could you imagine the fans reaction if he went out on loan to Coventry and started banging in the goals (which he would have done) while we on the other hand had Kyle helping us stumble away from the play off's. We will never know now but its all about bad management IMO, what happened to MM's aims for the season - automatic promotion was it not even the play off's  I agree in general BW, however Freddy went to the press moaning and bitching once dropped from the team. Instead of rolling up his sleeves and trying to make an impact, he came on numerous times and ran around like a headless chicken, running all over the pitch, clearly ignoring instructions from the boss. Always two sides to the story, i'm with Mick on this one. |
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Post by PureOldGold on May 10, 2008 21:16:23 GMT -1
“I have said to him maybe that’s me as well - Freddy is Freddy and he just does not fit into my team. “It’s nothing personal, it’s just that he is not going to get into my side. He wants to play, so is available for transfer.” It does just look like a case of Eastwood not standing up straight and saluting quickly enough for Sgt Major McCarthy. He wouldn't be the first player to fall short of Mad Mick's exacting standards - a certain Roy Keane springs to mind! I honestly thought that Wolves were certainties for the play offs (at least) and that with Ebanks-Blake and Eastwood, you'd probably be top scorers as well... A dip in form during the middle part of the season, injuries to key players (mainly wingers) and lack of pace at the back cost us. During the first half of the season we struggled to find the back of the net, no doubt if we had SEB from the beginning of the season, things might have been alot different. |
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Post by Pete the Wolf on May 11, 2008 16:28:23 GMT -1
Southdown - Exactly the point that I was going to make. SEB won't have a chance to cause any trouble off the pitch if he gets put in nick. Londonwolf - Yes we have got SEB but we could also keep Eastwood who scored 4 goals in his first 3 games which was a better impact than SEB. Then he scores in Bulgaria for Wales and then on his return he gets dropped, as for Kyle having a bigger impact After Kyle had played in 4 matches for Wolves that we had lost 3 and drawn one he said he was really enjoying things with Wolves (loser IMO). JODIE - Your right he was never given a chance Mad Mick realises that Eastwood has 20+ goals in him that is why he stopped the loan to Coventry. Could you imagine the fans reaction if he went out on loan to Coventry and started banging in the goals (which he would have done) while we on the other hand had Kyle helping us stumble away from the play off's. We will never know now but its all about bad management IMO, what happened to MM's aims for the season - automatic promotion was it not even the play off's I agree in general BW, however Freddy went to the press moaning and bitching once dropped from the team. Instead of rolling up his sleeves and trying to make an impact, he came on numerous times and ran around like a headless chicken, running all over the pitch, clearly ignoring instructions from the boss. Always two sides to the story, i'm with Mick on this one. I agree with Mick as well. As I've said in numerous threads, I've not been able to see the team enough tiems to pass a fair comment, but if I was manager, then I'd be livid about a player constantly going to the press complaining about not being in the team. I'm taking a guess that he was used to the team being built around him at Southend and couldn't handle the fact that it wasn't the case here. Do we get rid of a player for the good of the manager (one person), or get rid of the manager and cause a major upheaval in the squad (even more so than is gonna happen in the summer anyway)?  As for the talks about not reaching the playoffs when automatic was the target. How many teams do you suppose reach their targets? We were after automatic, as were no doubt West Brom (who did it and in style; fair play to them), Watford and Charlton, plus I'd imagine a few more. |
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Post by Beerwulf on May 12, 2008 11:30:06 GMT -1
Eastwood 4 goals in 12 appearences, he's a striker FFS!!!! Usually brought on at the end of a game when he is fresh and defences knackered. Sorry I don't see any potential in this bloke. I also think that SEB's contribution has been overlooked as a result of Wolves fans' obsession with a bloke who can't score for us.
He has been nothing but disruptive this season and we simply don't need him. As for 'not being given a chance' I read this as he must have 90 mins or he won't score. He has had plenty of opportunity but would rather spend his time whinging about it than actually doing the business. Good riddance.
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Post by BW on May 12, 2008 20:21:18 GMT -1
So Eastwood has been given a chance - what planet do you come from. These are the fact from the last 21 games Not even in the squad for the following games:- Scunthorpe A Watford (Cup) A Sheffield Wednesday H Watford (League) A Stoke H Desperation by clueless Mick bringing Freddy on with 9 minutes left already being slaughtered by stoke Blackpool A 0-0 1 minute as injury time sub Cardiff (Cup) 0-2 brought on 5 minutes before half time to try to salvage a game where we didn't play Palace - un-used sub Colchester - un-used sub Southampton - 11 minutes as sub Preston - not in squad Burnley 4 minutes as sub Scunthorpe - 23 minutes as sub QPR - 30 minutes as sub Charlton - 10 minutes as sub Bristol C - 14 minutes as sub West Brom - 14 minutes as sub Ipswich - not in squad Coventry - not in squad Plymouth - 25 minutes as sub Despite getting only 11 appearances - 139 minutes from a possible 21 games which equates to 1890 minutes of football, his contribution was very good. In 5 matches we scored after he came on although in 4 we didn't one was a cup game In the 10 league matches that Eastwood appeared we gained 16 point - that is an average of 73.6 points over a season. In the other 14 league games that he made an appearance we managed 27 points - that is a season average of 88.7 points over a season before SEB even kicked a ball for us!! In fact our season average is 82.4 points in the games that Eastwood has appeared. Eastwood has had on average over the last 21 games 6.6 minutes per game and do you think that is a fair chance? Wake up Wolfies Derby, Saints, Coventry the list goes on and on all would like him in their team but he is not good enough for Wolves who only scored 53 league goals from 46 games. We have gone backwards since last years play off's. Supposedly a better squad with many dubious signings. Mick McCarthy is a failure and that is the problem - fuck him off now  |
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Post by Pete the Wolf on May 12, 2008 21:06:19 GMT -1
What's happened with Eastwood has happened. We may as well acept the fact that it's not worked out for whatever reason and it's in the best interests of both parties that he goes. He's gonna want first team action, which he ain't gonna get while we've still got Keogh and SEB, and if he's gonna whinge in the press about not getting the games, then he's got an attitude problem. Bear in mind Keogh was on the bench at best earlier in the season and he fought his way back. Plus even Bothroyd did the same for a while after the Reading friendly scenario. Plus, if divisions are gonna happen amongst the fans, then it's in the best interests of the team. I experienced my first taste of the South Bank against QPR. Bloody fantastic atmosphere, but it was annoying to hear the divide in chanting. As for McCarthy being a failure ....... was that your attitude towards him last season? We didn't reach his target of automatic promotion but how many teams do you reckon don't reach their targets? Every year, there must be 4 or 5 teams who set a target of top 2 and 13 or 14 teams who fancy their chances of the playoffs. Not all teams can achieve their objectives and this year, it wasn't to be. Let's jsut see how next year progresses and if we do indeed do badly, then I will hold my hands up and say I made a mistake. For now though, let's all get behind the manager, behind the players and believe in them. It's gonna be one hell of a tough league next year and the staff will need CONSTUCTIVE criticism, not DESTRUCTIVE criticism as seems to be popular. |
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Post by PASTIE on May 12, 2008 21:39:37 GMT -1
Quite glad to see the back of him to be honest, nothing against the guy, but if he isn't in the plans of the manager then I don't see the point of keeping him. Besides, in SEB, we know that we have someone that will knock in 25 goals again next year and won't cause any trouble off the pitch. Despite what has been said by MM and Eastwood, I still think that a lot went on behind the scenes that we never heard about. Somebody may have already passed this comment, but when do we find out if SEB is sent down or not?  |
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Post by PASTIE on May 12, 2008 21:40:52 GMT -1
Besides, in SEB, we know that we have someone that will knock in 25 goals again next year and won't cause any trouble off the pitch.  Err, this is Sylvan Ebanks-has appeared before Plymouth magistrates to face a charge of assault after an alleged bottling incident outside a Union Street nightclub-Blake that we're talking about here, right? I should have guessed that Steve would get there first! Apparently it is all on CCTV. Surprised it isn't on YouTube yet... |
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Post by Pete the Wolf on May 12, 2008 21:54:02 GMT -1
It's true we'll have to wait and see what happens with regards to that; however, I'm a big believer in putting confidence into managers and hopefully MM will pull a rabbit out of the hat when signing a replacement.
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Post by PureOldGold on May 13, 2008 15:04:57 GMT -1
Crystal Palace are said to be interested in transfer-listed striker Freddy Eastwood.
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Post by MagicalUnited on May 13, 2008 16:16:18 GMT -1
i remember his free kick vs us in the lg cup
not a bad player
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Post by Beerwulf on May 14, 2008 9:59:16 GMT -1
Apart from anything else it is one of football's worst kept secrets that this guy is an arrogant, lazy little sod who gets other players backs up.
Even if (and I don't) I accept that he is potentially the best striker in this division I don't think that that would be reason enough to keep him given the disruption he causes.
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Post by Natty on May 14, 2008 11:13:24 GMT -1
coventry want freddy
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Post by BW on May 15, 2008 21:02:39 GMT -1
As for McCarthy being a failure ....... was that your attitude towards him last season? We didn't reach his target of automatic promotion but how many teams do you reckon don't reach their targets? Every year, there must be 4 or 5 teams who set a target of top 2 and 13 or 14 teams who fancy their chances of the playoffs. Not all teams can achieve their objectives and this year, it wasn't to be. Let's jsut see how next year progresses and if we do indeed do badly, then I will hold my hands up and say I made a mistake. For now though, let's all get behind the manager, behind the players and believe in them. It's gonna be one hell of a tough league next year and the staff will need CONSTUCTIVE criticism, not DESTRUCTIVE criticism as seems to be popular. MM got us into the playoffs last season so IMO he was a success then, however he targeted automatic promotion for this season and as you quite rightly say he didn't achieve his target so lets not look back to last season lets judge him on this season and based on this season he is a failure because not only did he/we fail to get automatic promotion, he/we failed to get into the playoffs as well - that is a very very big un-acceptable difference IMO, we achieved 6 points less after spending millions. It's ok you saying lets just see how next season progresses but some of us have been doing that for a long time and I speak for myself I don't want you to hold your hands up - because I've seen it all before. We have to put up with the Manager so I can only protest but apart from Kyle I have always been behind the players. We can I'm sure all be behind the Manager and players for the start of the new season but to believe in them may be a little harder. When you do something right you don't get criticised. So it is fair to say that constructive and destructive criticism is all a load of bollocks because it is all the same in a football stadium - it is just a management tool to manipulate situations to suit their needs in the office. MM is being criticised by the fans because he has fucked up nothing more and nothing less and you can't sweep that disappointment under the carpet too easily. |
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Post by Natty on May 16, 2008 8:17:15 GMT -1
Wolves boss Mick McCarthy wants to bring Leicester striker Steve Howard to the club for £1m
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Post by BW on May 16, 2008 9:08:41 GMT -1
Wolves boss Mick McCarthy wants to bring Leicester striker Steve Howard to the club for £1m I see he fits into the young and hungry mould that Wolves are trying to build  |
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Post by Natty on May 16, 2008 9:16:20 GMT -1
Preston and Wolves chasing derby david Jones |
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Post by Pete the Wolf on May 16, 2008 16:38:01 GMT -1
Wolves boss Mick McCarthy wants to bring Leicester striker Steve Howard to the club for £1m According to the Mirror |
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Post by PureOldGold on May 26, 2008 7:19:59 GMT -1
Coventry City are closing in on a £1.5m deal for transfer-listed Wolves striker Freddy Eastwood. (Daily Telegraph)
Now can we use this money to get a young, fast and strong centre back.
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Post by PureOldGold on Jun 6, 2008 14:29:39 GMT -1
Coventry are cooling on their interest in Wolves striker Freddy Eastwood after opening moves to land one of two other targets instead.
The Molineux club’s Championship neighbours were ready to buy the transfer-listed Eastwood for £1m.
Wolves are holding out to recoup the £1.5m they shelled out to Southend for the 24-year-old last summer.
Coventry, anxious to get their summer recruitment under way, are now making moves to pursue an alternative solution to their search for more goal power.
Bolton’s Heidar Helguson and Southampton’s Polish international striker Grzegorz Rasiak, who finished last season on loan at the Reebok, are options.
This development will be of concern to Eastwood, who had seen Coventry as his most likely next destination.
Despite speculation suggesting that Crystal Palace, Bristol City and QPR are all interested, it is only Chris Coleman who has been prepared to put money on the table.
Towards the end of last season, Wolves had agreed a sale to Coventry which would have given them their money back.
That broke down, amid much bitterness, when manager Mick McCarthy had a change of mind.
Coventry - having survived the relegation peril in which they were locked at that time - now feel less inclined to match the full £1.5m.
The prospect of a disenchanted Eastwood beginning pre-season training still looking for a move will put pressure on Wolves to strike a deal, as they continue their own hunt for fresh faces.
One of their targets, Kyle Lafferty, has moved a step closer to a Burnley exit as the club concede the striker’s demand for a new start sets the stage for a sale to either Wolves or Celtic.
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After Kyle had played in 4 matches for Wolves that we had lost 3 and drawn one he said he was really enjoying things with Wolves (loser IMO).
