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Post by spurrsgirl on Feb 14, 2007 9:18:12 GMT -1
I often wonder who a prospective employer would chose when faced with two equal candidates for a job, qualification wise, with one person being educated at the local comprehensive and the other at the best private school in the area...........
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Post by Mrs H on Feb 14, 2007 9:19:01 GMT -1
So we punish people who work? She earns minimum wage working 12 hour shifts in a care home and technically she would be better off quitting her job so she can get benefits and a house. It sucks. I said if she had the means then she should pay. I know it sucks but these sort of jobs don't pay - she need to find a sugar daddy ;D Mmm probably not the best idea. She's the friend I was talking about yesterday who's husband feel off a roof and he's now serverely brain damaged.
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Post by HURLOCK on Feb 14, 2007 9:20:13 GMT -1
My parents where teachers and my mother worked in both sectors: The difference in the private sector is that children who would normally fail, because they don't get the guidance etc., get the results that are really just basic! And no my kids would speak properly, know how to behave as opposed to mixing with scum! There is a saying if you lie down with a dog you get fleas. Even the good grammar schools are now rife with scum! Not sure about the whole "if you lie down with dogs" thing Hurls. I think it definitely depends on your parents and how you were brought up and what kind of character you have. I went to one of the roughest schools in Sheffield and had to deal with a lot of shit but I always had the support of my family. Maybe a bit harsh yes, I would always support my kids etc., but they would have my naughty side and I would hate to see them go down the wrong path. As with any normal parent I want whats best for them
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Post by spurrsgirl on Feb 14, 2007 9:20:42 GMT -1
I said if she had the means then she should pay. I know it sucks but these sort of jobs don't pay - she need to find a sugar daddy ;D Mmm probably not the best idea. She's the friend I was talking about yesterday who's husband feel off a roof and he's now serverely brain damaged. Your poor friend Mrs H. Why do some people always seem to get dealt the shitty end of the stick Some of us don't realise how lucky we are. Hope all works out alright for her.
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Post by HURLOCK on Feb 14, 2007 9:21:24 GMT -1
I said if she had the means then she should pay. I know it sucks but these sort of jobs don't pay - she need to find a sugar daddy ;D Mmm probably not the best idea. She's the friend I was talking about yesterday who's husband feel off a roof and he's now serverely brain damaged. OK, sorry - surely he qualifies for accomodation?
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Post by Mrs H on Feb 14, 2007 9:22:23 GMT -1
Mmm probably not the best idea. She's the friend I was talking about yesterday who's husband feel off a roof and he's now serverely brain damaged. Your poor friend Mrs H. Why do some people always seem to get dealt the shitty end of the stick Some of us don't realise how lucky we are. Hope all works out alright for her. There's no justice in the world SG. She has a lot of support around her so I'm sure something will work out.
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Post by HURLOCK on Feb 14, 2007 9:22:36 GMT -1
I often wonder who a prospective employer would chose when faced with two equal candidates for a job, qualification wise, with one person being educated at the local comprehensive and the other at the best private school in the area........... I would take the one who presents himself the best
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Post by Mrs H on Feb 14, 2007 9:23:23 GMT -1
Mmm probably not the best idea. She's the friend I was talking about yesterday who's husband feel off a roof and he's now serverely brain damaged. OK, sorry - surely he qualifies for accomodation? He has to live in a care home now because he's too violent and unmanagable to have at home.
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Post by addicted2venos on Feb 14, 2007 9:24:12 GMT -1
My parents where teachers and my mother worked in both sectors: The difference in the private sector is that children who would normally fail, because they don't get the guidance etc., get the results that are really just basic! And no my kids would speak properly, know how to behave as opposed to mixing with scum! There is a saying if you lie down with a dog you get fleas. Even the good grammar schools are now rife with scum! Not sure about the whole "if you lie down with dogs" thing Hurls. I think it definitely depends on your parents and how you were brought up and what kind of character you have. I went to one of the roughest schools in Sheffield and had to deal with a lot of shit but I always had the support of my family. ........... could be worse H, I went to school in Rotherham!! I got GCSE's in twoc'ing and shoplifting!! ;D
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Post by Mrs H on Feb 14, 2007 9:25:21 GMT -1
Not sure about the whole "if you lie down with dogs" thing Hurls. I think it definitely depends on your parents and how you were brought up and what kind of character you have. I went to one of the roughest schools in Sheffield and had to deal with a lot of shit but I always had the support of my family. ........... could be worse H, I went to school in Rotherham!! I got a GCSE's in twoc'ing and shoplifting!! ;D PMSL ;D
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Post by addicted2venos on Feb 14, 2007 9:26:52 GMT -1
I often wonder who a prospective employer would chose when faced with two equal candidates for a job, qualification wise, with one person being educated at the local comprehensive and the other at the best private school in the area........... I would take the one who presents himself the best I'd take the one from the local comp, as he's probably had to work harder to achieve his/her grades, and probably has a better grasp of the real world IMHO. .............. unless of course the job required Latin, at which point I'd take the posh kid!!
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Post by Mrs H on Feb 14, 2007 9:31:34 GMT -1
I would take the one who presents himself the best I'd take the one from the local comp, as he's probably had to work harder to achieve his/her grades, and probably has a better grasp of the real world IMHO. .............. unless of course the job required Latin, at which point I'd take the posh kid!! At which point you would employ Jules ;D
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Post by HURLOCK on Feb 14, 2007 9:35:42 GMT -1
I would take the one who presents himself the best I'd take the one from the local comp, as he's probably had to work harder to achieve his/her grades, and probably has a better grasp of the real world IMHO. .............. unless of course the job required Latin, at which point I'd take the posh kid!! what if Annekas daughter was the posh kid A2V
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Post by jh1980 on Feb 14, 2007 9:36:10 GMT -1
I'd take the one from the local comp, as he's probably had to work harder to achieve his/her grades, and probably has a better grasp of the real world IMHO. .............. unless of course the job required Latin, at which point I'd take the posh kid!!
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Post by addicted2venos on Feb 14, 2007 9:42:07 GMT -1
I'd take the one from the local comp, as he's probably had to work harder to achieve his/her grades, and probably has a better grasp of the real world IMHO. .............. unless of course the job required Latin, at which point I'd take the posh kid!! At which point you would employ Jules ;D .............. if I needed a bit of latin, he'd be just the man I'd be looking for!! I'd give him the job title of 'Latin Swami' and a quill, and pay his salary in pheasants ............. he'd love that!! ;D
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Post by addicted2venos on Feb 14, 2007 9:43:23 GMT -1
I'd take the one from the local comp, as he's probably had to work harder to achieve his/her grades, and probably has a better grasp of the real world IMHO. .............. unless of course the job required Latin, at which point I'd take the posh kid!! what if Annekas daughter was the posh kid A2V I already enjoy full ownership of 'The Anneka' hurls!!
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Post by Mrs H on Feb 14, 2007 9:43:46 GMT -1
At which point you would employ Jules ;D .............. if I needed a bit of latin, he'd be just the man I'd be looking for!! I'd give him the job title of 'Latin Swami' and a quill, and pay his salary in pheasants ............. he'd love that!! ;D Lol you're on good form today A2V. Is it because you're going to get you're annual big sex tonight from Mrs A2V?
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Post by ITFC Dudette6 on Feb 14, 2007 9:44:55 GMT -1
Cheerful stuff... I guess I'm a rarity then, a happy child with a good upbringing?
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Post by CHOPPER READ on Feb 14, 2007 9:45:06 GMT -1
Hardly a surprise really. Britain has gone to the dogs........
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Post by thales on Feb 14, 2007 9:45:37 GMT -1
The UK has come bottom of a Unicef league table for child well-being across 21 industrialised countries. The study looked at a total of 40 indicators in six categories. Here is a summary of some of the report's key findings.
REPORT SUMMARY
European countries dominate the top half of the overall league table, with the Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark and Finland claiming the top four places.
The UK and United States are in the bottom third of the rankings for five of the six categories covered. The six categories are material well-being, family and peer relationships, health and safety, behaviour and risks, and children's own sense of well-being (educational and subjective).
No country features in the top third of the rankings for all six dimensions of child well-being, although the Netherlands and Sweden come close to achieving this.
MATERIAL WELL-BEING
Child poverty remains above the 15% mark in the three southern European countries (Portugal, Spain, Italy) and in three Anglophone countries (the US, the UK, and Ireland).
There is no obvious relationship between levels of child well-being and GDP per capita. The Czech Republic, for example, achieves a higher overall rank for child well-being than several much wealthier countries.
A total of nine countries - all in northern Europe - have brought child poverty rates below 10%.
FAMILY AND PEER RELATIONSHIPS
Approximately 80% of children in the countries under review are living with both parents. This ranges from more than 90% in Greece and Italy to less than 70% in the UK and 60% in the US.
Even in the lowest ranked countries, almost two-thirds of children still regularly eat the main meal of the day with their families, with France and Italy maintaining the tradition most of all.
HEALTH AND SAFETY
Fewer than one in every 10,000 young people die before the age of 19 as a result of accident, murder, suicide or violence.
European countries occupy the top half of the report's child health and safety table, with the top five places claimed by the four Nordic countries and the Netherlands.
Infant mortality rates range from under 3% per 1,000 births in Iceland and Japan, to over 6% per 1,000 in Hungary, Poland and the US.
BEHAVIOUR AND RISKS
The overall OECD league table of young people's risk behaviours sees the UK at the foot of the rankings by "a considerable distance".
Risk behaviours considered in the study include smoking, being drunk, using cannabis, fighting and bullying, and sexual behaviour.
Only about a third of young people eat fruit daily.
Only about a third of young people exercise for an hour or more on five or more days a week - youths take most exercise in Ireland, Canada and the US, and the least in Belgium and France.
EDUCATIONAL WELL-BEING
Finland, Canada, Australia, and Japan head this particular table in the report.
The UK is rated in the bottom third of the table for educational well-being.
Four southern European countries - Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal - occupy the bottom four places.
SUBJECTIVE WELL-BEING
Children's subjective sense of well-being appears to be markedly higher in the Netherlands, Spain, and Greece and markedly lower in Poland and the UK.
Approximately 80% of young people consider their health to be good or excellent in every OECD country except the UK.
The Netherlands, Norway and Austria, are at the head of the table with over a third of their schoolchildren admitting to "liking school a lot".
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