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Post by HURLOCK on Feb 5, 2008 8:41:57 GMT -1
Just got this chain mail, are we to be embarassed of our history now?
It is a matter of history that when Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, General Dwight Eisenhower, found the victims of the death camps, he ordered all possible photographs to be taken, and for the German people from surrounding villages to be ushered through the camps and even made to bury the dead.
He did this because he said in words to this effect: 'Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses - because somewhere down the track of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
Edmund Burke
In Memoriam
This week, the University of Kentucky removed The Holocaust from its school curriculum because it 'offended' the Muslim population which claims it never occurred.
This is a frightening portent of the fear that is gripping the world and how easily each country is giving into it.
It is now more than 60 years after the Second World War in Europe ended.
This e-mail is being sent as a memorial chain, in memory of the:
6 million Jews,
20 million Russians,
10 million Christians,
2.5 million Cambodians
40 million Chinese
2 million Ruandans
and 1,900 Catholic priests
who were murdered, massacred, raped, burned, starved and humiliated with the German, Russian, Cambodian, Chinese, Ruandans peoples looking the other way!
Now, more than ever, with Iran , among others, claiming the Holocaust to be 'a myth,' it is imperative to make sure the world never forgets.
This e-mail is intended to reach 40 million people worldwide!
Be a link in the memorial chain and help distribute this around the world.
Don't just delete this. It will only take a minute to pass this along
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Feb 5, 2008 8:52:39 GMT -1
This week, the University of Kentucky removed The Holocaust from its school curriculum because it 'offended' the Muslim population which claims it never occurred.
The University and said Muslim community are thick as shit and a fucking disgrace to this planet  |
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Post by jh1980 on Feb 5, 2008 8:54:51 GMT -1
What the hell is the University of Kentucky thinking?!  Can't say this is about "Political Correctness" as it's not - it is unforgivable discrimination against one group in order to appease another. Which is perverse as the point of "diversity awareness" is to harm NOBODIES sensitivities. Crazy. |
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Post by Neko Bazu on Feb 5, 2008 8:55:03 GMT -1
news.uky.edu/news/display_article.php?artid=2873Bit of research, please LEXINGTON, Ky. (Nov. 8, 2007) − The University of Kentucky has announced that a rumor, claiming the school has removed Holocaust material from its curriculum, is not true. The false claim has been circulated via e-mail. The Judaic Studies Program of the University of Kentucky, in conjunction with the College of Arts and Sciences Department of History, offers a course designated as History 323: The Holocaust. According to an explanation found on the investigative Web site Snopes.com, a message claiming that schools in the United Kingdom would no longer teach about the Holocaust in their history classes began to circulate via e-mail forwards dated back to April 2007. As the message wound its way across the Internet, someone took the abbreviation for the United Kingdom (UK) to stand for the University of Kentucky, and altered the message to implicate the institution. This version has been forwarded to several people and understandably raised concern among alumni, students and other friends of the University of Kentucky. The original message about the United Kingdom is of uncertain veracity, and any statement linking the University of Kentucky with this rumor is completely false. "The academic administration of the University of Kentucky would never permit such a grotesque lapse in its commitment to the principle of academic freedom. Let us bury this rumor. It is a distortion of the realities on and off campus," said UK Assistant Provost Richard B. Greissman.
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Post by Neko Bazu on Feb 5, 2008 8:55:35 GMT -1
This week, the University of Kentucky removed The Holocaust from its school curriculum because it 'offended' the Muslim population which claims it never occurred.
The University and said Muslim community are thick as shit and a fucking disgrace to this planet This is why we don't jump to conclusions, especially where email rumours are concerned |
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Feb 5, 2008 8:57:18 GMT -1
The University and said Muslim community are thick as shit and a fucking disgrace to this planet This is why we don't jump to conclusions, especially where email rumours are concerned i thought Hurls would have researched it b4 posting   ;D |
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Post by Neko Bazu on Feb 5, 2008 8:57:25 GMT -1
This is why the PC Brigade fuck me off so much.
You three were willing to believe this blindly, instead of doing the most basic of searches into the facts. Had this happened 2-3 years ago, you'd probably have at least viewed it with a little suspicion.
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Post by HURLOCK on Feb 5, 2008 8:57:57 GMT -1
whats to say they didn't reverse their decision, we're talking Americans afterall
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Feb 5, 2008 8:59:47 GMT -1
but it is true a lot of Muslims deny the Holocaust happened |
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Post by Neko Bazu on Feb 5, 2008 8:59:48 GMT -1
whats to say they didn't reverse their decision, we're talking Americans hear Oh come on, read the article! It's a lie based on a misunderstanding of a total lie! Don't you think that, if this really were the case, news groups across the world would've gone fucking apeshit? This'd be sensationalism at its finest, especially for rags like the Mail, The Sun etc, never mind places like France, Holland, the US etc where there's growing anti-muslim sentiments. |
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Post by Neko Bazu on Feb 5, 2008 9:00:56 GMT -1
but it is true a lot of Muslims deny the Holocaust happened So do shit-loads of other people, including Christians and atheists - I've never heard a muslim deny the holocaust. |
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Post by HURLOCK on Feb 5, 2008 9:02:30 GMT -1
whats to say they didn't reverse their decision, we're talking Americans hear Oh come on, read the article! It's a lie based on a misunderstanding of a total lie! Don't you think that, if this really were the case, news groups across the world would've gone fucking apeshit? This'd be sensationalism at its finest, especially for rags like the Mail, The Sun etc, never mind places like France, Holland, the US etc where there's growing anti-muslim sentiments. I'm playing devils mate! |
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Post by Neko Bazu on Feb 5, 2008 9:04:16 GMT -1
Oh come on, read the article! It's a lie based on a misunderstanding of a total lie! Don't you think that, if this really were the case, news groups across the world would've gone fucking apeshit? This'd be sensationalism at its finest, especially for rags like the Mail, The Sun etc, never mind places like France, Holland, the US etc where there's growing anti-muslim sentiments. I'm playing devils mate! There's a time and a place for that, much like masturbating - and the University of Kentucky isn't it |
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Post by HURLOCK on Feb 5, 2008 9:04:59 GMT -1
but it is true a lot of Muslims deny the Holocaust happened So do shit-loads of other people, including Christians and atheists - I've never heard a muslim deny the holocaust. I think your wrong where Christian are concerned, as I sure as hell was taught about this in RE. The Jewish faith and Christian faith are extremely similar in teachings and beliefs |
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Feb 5, 2008 9:06:04 GMT -1
but it is true a lot of Muslims deny the Holocaust happened So do shit-loads of other people, including Christians and atheists - I've never heard a muslim deny the holocaust. just referring to the email, not going off tangent |
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Post by HURLOCK on Feb 5, 2008 9:06:32 GMT -1
There's a time and a place for that, much like masturbating - and the University of Kentucky isn't it American are wankers now? Joking aside I think it can make for interesting debate |
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Feb 5, 2008 9:08:22 GMT -1
There's a time and a place for that, much like masturbating - and the University of Kentucky isn't it American are wankers now? Joking aside I think it can make for interesting debate what if Americans are wankers |
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Post by Neko Bazu on Feb 5, 2008 9:10:28 GMT -1
There's a time and a place for that, much like masturbating - and the University of Kentucky isn't it American are wankers now? Joking aside I think it can make for interesting debate You know as well as I do that on here, it'd just degenerate into anti-American sentiment As a debate, i think this issue'd be a non-starter though. "Did the Uni of Kentucky remove the Holocaust from their syllabus and then replace it?" Your only proof is a mutated chain-email rumour, which is hardly the basis to form an argument from! |
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Post by jh1980 on Feb 5, 2008 9:10:56 GMT -1
I think your wrong where Christian are concerned, as I sure as hell was taught about this in RE. The Jewish faith and Christian faith are extremely similar in teachings and beliefs Well there's something in what you say there Hurls. Neko - who are these "shit-loads" of people who deny the Holocaust?!  I was of the happy presumption that very few people other than David Irving and a handful of brain-dead fascists claimed it didn't happen? In fact I gather that many of said brain-dead fascists celebrate that act of evil - so I ask again - who are these "shit-loads" of holocaust deniers?! |
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Post by Tiffie on Feb 5, 2008 9:18:20 GMT -1
whats to say they didn't reverse their decision, we're talking Americans afterall Sorry, had to stick my head in - in America, as far as I know, (I can't see the future, after all ), we'll always teach about the Holocaust. In fact, as with most subject matter in schools, if it offends/etc, parents/guardians can give a note to the teacher/administrators, and the child can be sent to the library/etc for independent study during that particular class~ That way, the education of all isn't compromised for the sake of one student  'least, that's how they did it at my school. Also - news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7226778.stm UK government acts on hoax e-mail
The UK government is taking the unprecedented step of writing to every embassy to stop a false e-mail rumour about Holocaust teaching being banned.
A widely-circulated e-mail has falsely claimed that schools in the UK will stop teaching the Holocaust because it might cause offence to Muslims.
Schools Secretary Ed Balls says he wants to "put an end once and for all to the myth" spread by the e-mail.
He says teaching the Holocaust remains "non-negotiable" in England.
This formal government rebuttal of a hoax e-mail has been prompted by a persistent rumour that "UK schools" are set to remove the Holocaust from the curriculum.
'No evidence'
The e-mail claims that this is a response to fears of offending Muslims - and it calls for the e-mail to be distributed in a "memorial chain" in protecting the memory of the Holocaust's victims.
There are also versions of the e-mail claiming that teaching of the Holocaust has been banned at the University of Kentucky - presumably in a confusion over "UK".
The e-mail continues to be published on many blogs and websites.
A spokeswoman for the Department for Children, Schools and Families says the department regularly has to handle inquiries about this hoax - and that it wants to put a stop to the confusion.
The BBC News website also repeatedly receives e-mails, many from international readers, asking about the validity of this supposed curriculum ban.
The government is now acting to refute the e-mail, sending a statement to embassies and the "world media".
"I want to put an end once and for all to the myth that the Holocaust is not being taught in schools or is being removed from the curriculum," writes Mr Balls.
Auschwitz visits
"I am pleased to confirm that this is absolutely not the case. Teaching of the Holocaust is compulsory in all secondary schools between the ages of 11 and 14.
"We are clear that there are certain non-negotiable subjects, which are protected in schools; one of those is the Holocaust.
"There is no evidence that schools are breaking the rules and not teaching the Holocaust.
"We also fund visits for young people from every secondary school and college to go to Auschwitz."
The UK has four education systems with separate curricula. This compulsory teaching of the Holocaust applies to schools in England - but there are no suggestions of a "ban" on the subject in other parts of the UK either.
The starting point of the e-mail is believed to have been a report from the Historical Association in April 2007, which warned that some teachers appeared reluctant to teach areas of history which could be considered controversial with some pupils.
This included concerns about teaching the Crusades to Muslim pupils - and worries that teaching the Holocaust could prompt an anti-Semitic response.
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I was of the happy presumption that very few people other than David Irving and a handful of brain-dead fascists claimed it didn't happen?
