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Post by HURLOCK on Dec 15, 2007 11:16:03 GMT -1
Say that, and this is what you might get by way of a response:
Congratulating the kuffaar on the rituals that belong only to them is haraam by consensus, as is congratulating them on their festivals and fasts by saying “A happy festival to you” or “May you enjoy your festival”, and so on. If the one who says this has been saved from kufr, it is still forbidden. It is like congratulating someone for prostrating to the cross, or even worse than that. It is as great a sin as congratulating someone for drinking wine, or murdering someone, or having illicit sexual relations, and so on.
So congratulating them is forbidden, whether they are one’s colleagues at work or otherwise.
If they greet us on the occasion of their festivals, we should not respond, because these are not our festivals, and because they are not festivals which are acceptable to God. These festivals are innovations in their religions, and even those which may have been prescribed formerly have been abrogated by the religion of Islam, with which God sent Muhammad (P) to the whole of mankind.
Similarly, Muslims are forbidden to imitate the kuffaar by having parties on such occasions, or exchanging gifts, or giving out sweets or food, or taking time off work, etc., because the Prophet (P) said:
“Whoever imitates a people is one of them.”
Shaykh al-Islaam Ibn Taymiyah said:
“Imitating them in some of their festivals implies that one is pleased with their false beliefs and practices, and gives them the hope that they may have the opportunity to humiliate and mislead the weak.”5
Whoever does anything of this sort is a sinner, whether he does it out of politeness or to be friendly, or because he is too shy to refuse, or for whatever other reason, because this is hypocrisy in Islam, and because it makes the kuffaar feel proud of their religion.
It'll be interesting to see how many Muslims go to the office on Christmas and boxing day
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Post by Neko Bazu on Dec 15, 2007 11:46:22 GMT -1
...so long ramble short, they're not allowed to celebrate our festivals, and vice-versa?
That wouldn't prevent them from not going to work on Christmas/Boxing Day though, 'cause they're still national bank holidays - otherwise, all those of us on here who aren't Christian should go in on those days too!
No problem for me either way, mind - my religion actively encourages taking part in the festivities of others! ;D
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Post by Pete the Wolf on Dec 15, 2007 12:34:55 GMT -1
FROM: Patty Lewis, Head of HR
TO: All Employees
DATE: October 01, 2005
RE: Christmas Party
I'm happy to inform you that the office Christmas Party will take place on December 23, starting at noon in the private function room at the Grill House. There will be a cash bar and plenty of drinks! We'll have a small band playing traditional carols...feel free to sing along. And don't be surprised if the Chief shows up dressed as Santa Claus!
A Christmas tree will be lit at 1:00pm. Exchange of gifts among employees can be done at that time; however, no gift should be over £5 to make the giving of gifts easy for everyone's pockets. This gathering is only for Chester House! The Chief will make a special announcement at that time!
Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Patty
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FROM: Patty Lewis, Head of HR
TO: All Employees
DATE: October 02, 2005
RE: Holiday Party
In no way was yesterday's memo intended to exclude our Jewish employees. We recognise that Chanukah is an important holiday, which often coincides with Christmas. However, from now on we're calling it our "Holiday Party." The same policy applies to any other employees who are not Christians or those still celebrating Reconciliation Day. There will be no Christmas tree present. No Christmas carols sung. We will have other types of music for your enjoyment.
Happy now?
Happy Holidays to you and your family.
Patty
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FROM: Patty Lewis, Head of HR
TO: All Employees
DATE: October 03, 2005
RE: Holiday Party
Regarding the note I received from a member of Alcoholics Anonymous requesting a non-drinking table. You didn't sign your name. I'm happy to accommodate this request, but if I put a sign on a table that reads, "AA Only"; you wouldn't be anonymous anymore. How am I supposed to handle this? Somebody?
Forget about the gifts exchange, no gifts exchange are allowed since the union members feel that £5 is too much money and executives believe £5 is a little chintzy. NO GIFTS EXCHANGE WILL BE ALLOWED.
Patty
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FROM: Patty Lewis, Head of HR
To: All Employees
DATE: October 04, 2005
RE: Holiday Party
What a diverse group we are! I had no idea about the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, which forbids eating and drinking during daylight hours. There goes the party! Seriously, we can appreciate how a luncheon at this time of year does not accommodate our Muslim employees' beliefs. Perhaps the Grill House can hold off on serving your meal until the end of the party - or else package everything for you to take it home in little foil doggy baggy. Will that work?
Meanwhile, I've arranged for members of Weight Watchers to sit farthest from the dessert buffet and pregnant women will get the table closest to the restrooms. Gays are allowed to sit with each other. Lesbians do not have to sit with Gay men, each will have their own table. Yes, there will be flower arrangement for the Gay men's table. To the person asking permission to cross dress, yes, this is allowed.
We will have booster seats for short people. Low-fat food will be available for those on a diet. We cannot control the salt used in the food we suggest for those people with high blood pressure to taste first. There will be fresh fruits as dessert for Diabetics, the restaurant cannot supply "No Sugar" desserts. Sorry!
Did I miss anything?!?!?
Patty
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FROM: Patty Lewis, Head of HR
TO: All F****** Employees
DATE: October 05, 2005
RE: The F****** Holiday Party
Vegetarian pr**ks - I've had it with you people!!! We're going to keep this party at the Grill House whether you like it or not, so you can sit quietly at the table furthest from the "grill of death," as you so quaintly put it, and you'll get your ******* salad bar, including organic tomatoes.
But you know, tomatoes have feelings, too. They scream when you slice them. I've heard them scream. I'm hearing them scream right NOW! I hope you all have a rotten holiday! Drive drunk and die,
The B**** from H***!!!!!!!!
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FROM: Joan Bishop, Acting Head of HR
DATE: October 06, 2005
RE: Patty Lewis and Holiday Party
I'm sure I speak for all of us in wishing Patty Lewis a speedy recovery and I'll continue to forward your cards to her. In the meantime, management has decided to cancel our Holiday Party and give everyone the afternoon of the 23rd off with full pay.
Happy Holidays!
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Dec 15, 2007 13:42:56 GMT -1
LMAO ;D
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Post by HURLOCK on Dec 17, 2007 9:10:30 GMT -1
...so long ramble short, they're not allowed to celebrate our festivals, and vice-versa? That wouldn't prevent them from not going to work on Christmas/Boxing Day though, 'cause they're still national bank holidays - otherwise, all those of us on here who aren't Christian should go in on those days too! No problem for me either way, mind - my religion actively encourages taking part in the festivities of others! ;D I just think it highlights the double standards constantly applied |
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Post by fcredblue on Dec 17, 2007 14:41:25 GMT -1
...so long ramble short, they're not allowed to celebrate our festivals, and vice-versa? That wouldn't prevent them from not going to work on Christmas/Boxing Day though, 'cause they're still national bank holidays - otherwise, all those of us on here who aren't Christian should go in on those days too! No problem for me either way, mind - my religion actively encourages taking part in the festivities of others! ;D I just think it highlights the double standards constantly applied muslims should complain about that... they love complaining... |
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Post by HURLOCK on Dec 18, 2007 8:23:21 GMT -1
muslims should complain about that... they love complaining... Just a bunch of hypocrites in the main, they apply the rules when it suits them. However break them when they think no one is looking. Still we are infidels, so why would we understand |
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Post by Neko Bazu on Dec 18, 2007 8:32:37 GMT -1
muslims should complain about that... they love complaining... Just a bunch of hypocrites in the main, they apply the rules when it suits them. However break them when they think no one is looking. Still we are infidels, so why would we understand On personal experience, I have to disagree with that. A few are that way inclined, but most muslims I've come across are just as fair as any of us (if not more so - I've never heard any of them banging on about, "Fucking Christians" or anything!) |
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