Kaka to top list of Most expensive footy deals

[officergroyman]

FOOTBALL'S MOST EXPENSIVE DEALS

• £??m: Kaka - AC Milan to Chelsea or Real Madrid (2009)

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[/li][li]£46m: Zinedine Zidane - Juventus to Real Madrid (2001)
[/li][li]£37m: Luis Figo - Barcelona to Real Madrid (2000)
[/li][li]£35.5m: Hernan Crespo - Parma to Lazio (2000)
[/li][li]£32.5m Robinho - Real Madrid to Man City (2008) £32.5m
[/li][li]£32m: Christian Vieri - Lazio to Inter Milan (1999)
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........ what's your guess on where he'll end up & for what the final deal will be worth

My guess: He'll end up at Chelsea, even though they're so adimantly denying it, and for around £70m

[El Morto La Hoja!]

my guess is real don't have that kinda money....

[officergroyman]

Jun 4, 2009 18:07:42 GMT -1 El Morto La Hoja! said:

my guess is real don't have that kinda money....

true that Mort.

"It is believed Kaka is close to a £56m move to Real Madrid but reports claimed the Blues, coached by ex-Milan boss Carlo Ancelotti, made a late £73m bid."
off BBC Sport

[Golden_Boy™]

Jun 4, 2009 18:07:42 GMT -1 El Morto La Hoja! said:

my guess is real don't have that kinda money....

Quite the opposite, in fact.

Real have PLENTY of money - they have topped Deloitte's Money League for each of the past four seasons and they've done so despite doing poorly in the Champions League.

Add in the fact Perez is now back as club President a new era at Madrid is beckoning.

As for Kaká - I'm still undecided if he will leave Milan. Though if that does happen, I'm confident Madrid will be his destination.

[El Morto La Hoja!]

don't believe. Real are all talk and no trousers, they lie, lie, lie ....

... i'd not believe any figures they'd supply.

Very Simply if they buy Kaka they have the money, if not liiiiiiiars!

[gt]

Real in pants

[Golden_Boy™]

Jun 4, 2009 20:36:41 GMT -1 El Morto La Hoja! said:

don't believe. Real are all talk and no trousers, they lie, lie, lie ....

... i'd not believe any figures they'd supply.

Very Simply if they buy Kaka they have the money, if not liiiiiiiars!

Ok..

'All talk and no trousers' ;D LOL!

The last time Perez was in charge - he was the catalyst behind the galacticos era, that should give you an indication as to what shall be happening between now and the start of the season.

[El Morto La Hoja!]

Jun 4, 2009 20:51:58 GMT -1 Golden_Boy™ said:

Jun 4, 2009 20:36:41 GMT -1 El Morto La Hoja! said:

don't believe. Real are all talk and no trousers, they lie, lie, lie ....

... i'd not believe any figures they'd supply.

Very Simply if they buy Kaka they have the money, if not liiiiiiiars!

Ok..

'All talk and no trousers' ;D LOL!

The last time Perez was in charge - he was the catalyst behind the galacticos era, that should give you an indication as to what shall be happening between now and the start of the season.

they'll waste alotta money, hemorrhage financially and still not be the best team in the world...?

[Golden_Boy™]

Jun 4, 2009 21:15:00 GMT -1 El Morto La Hoja! said:

Jun 4, 2009 20:51:58 GMT -1 Golden_Boy™ said:

Ok..

'All talk and no trousers' ;D LOL!

The last time Perez was in charge - he was the catalyst behind the galacticos era, that should give you an indication as to what shall be happening between now and the start of the season.

they'll waste alotta money, hemorrhage financially and still not be the best team in the world...?

Oh, so you're coming round to the fact they do actually have some money now??

[El Morto La Hoja!]

Jun 4, 2009 21:22:35 GMT -1 Golden_Boy™ said:

Jun 4, 2009 21:15:00 GMT -1 El Morto La Hoja! said:

they'll waste alotta money, hemorrhage financially and still not be the best team in the world...?

Oh, so you're coming round to the fact they do actually have some money now??

i never said you didn't have money, i said you didn't have enough

[Golden_Boy™]

Jun 4, 2009 21:44:05 GMT -1 El Morto La Hoja! said:

Jun 4, 2009 21:22:35 GMT -1 Golden_Boy™ said:

Oh, so you're coming round to the fact they do actually have some money now??

i never said you didn't have money, i said you didn't have enough

Perez has said Real Madrid will need to invest as much as €300 million.

I'd say that's 'enough'

[El Morto La Hoja!]

Jun 4, 2009 22:01:14 GMT -1 Golden_Boy™ said:

Jun 4, 2009 21:44:05 GMT -1 El Morto La Hoja! said:

i never said you didn't have money, i said you didn't have enough

Perez has said Real Madrid will need to invest as much as €300 million.

I'd say that's 'enough'

"will need" not "have"

[Golden_Boy™]

Jun 4, 2009 22:11:26 GMT -1 El Morto La Hoja! said:

Jun 4, 2009 22:01:14 GMT -1 Golden_Boy™ said:

Perez has said Real Madrid will need to invest as much as €300 million.

I'd say that's 'enough'

"will need" not "have"

Pérez is one of the wealthiest men in Europe, with wide-ranging business interests. The money is no problem, as you shall see with your own eyes as this summer progresses..

[El Morto La Hoja!]

i shall wait and see

[DTR]

But they sell lots of merchandise to make the money back they had the same thing with Beckham

[Golden_Boy™]

Here's an article which explains why Real are in the position they are in.

Now that Florentino Pérez appears to have delivered on his election promise and Kaká is bound for the Bernabéu, you may be wondering just how Real Madrid's business model allows them to compete with the Premier League.

Without a Russian oligarch or Arab sheikh, where do Real find the money to outspend everyone? For a start, Real are a massive club, with possibly the biggest footballing brand name in the world. Not coincidentally, they have topped Deloitte's Money League for each of the past four seasons and they've done so despite doing poorly in the Champions League.

They have the third-highest average attendance in Europe and while their stadium revenue cannot compete with Manchester United, it still packs a punch. They have been extremely aggressive in pursuing sponsorship opportunities, including overseas tours (on several occasions they have held pre-season training camps in places such as Vietnam and China).

Anything else going for them? Oh yes. Their domestic television contract is by far the richest in the world. They are also helped greatly by tax legislation - originally intended for overseas bankers and executives - that allows their foreign players to pay tax at about 23 per cent for the first five years that they are in the country.

This means that, in headline figures, if they want to pay Kaká £8 million after tax, it would cost them less than £10 million a year, whereas it would cost United £16 million (thanks to the new 50p top marginal rate introduced at the last Budget). Over five years, that's a difference of £30 million.

Finally, there's Real's status as, effectively, a non-profit social trust. This means they do not need to generate £30 million a year just to service their debt (like United).

Whatever debt they hold (and detail here is murky) is with local banks, many of whom are under political and social pressure not to tighten the screws. Real are too big and too important to fail or to come under the kind of debt pressures that affect traditional clubs. The club's social, political and economic significance dwarfs that of any other club in the world, with the possible exception of Barcelona. In that sense, they play by a different set of rules.

Just how much is their TV contract worth? Well, according to the club, in 2006 they signed a seven-year deal with MediaPro guaranteeing €1.1 billion (now about £956 million) for their domestic league TV rights. At least, that's Real's version of events: MediaPro has never disclosed the figure and some dispute the amount. But, if it is true, they earn £135 million a season from their domestic league rights, more than twice what United receive.

How does the structure of the club differ from other leading sides? Real are one of four Spanish clubs - the others are Barcelona, Osasuna and Athletic Bilbao - who were exempted from a 1991 law forcing teams to become plcs. This means they hold regular elections to determine who will lead the club. The president then selects his board and appoints his men to key positions within the club.

So what do you need to do to get elected? To stand for election you have to be a Spanish citizen who has been a club member for at least ten years. And, crucially, you have to submit a deposit equal to 15 per cent of the club's budget, or about £50 million. (But you don't need to come up with the cash yourself, you just need a bank to vouch for you.) Once that's done, you campaign, just like in any other election, and, ultimately, it's the members who decide.

Now that Pérez has been elected, does he have to fund the club? No. In fact, he's not allowed to. He simply runs the club. Of course, Pérez is one of the wealthiest men in Europe, with wide-ranging business interests. No doubt he can leverage them to help the club, particularly when it comes to their relationship with banks and sponsors. Ultimately, though, he cannot finance the club. And, of course, he's not supposed to benefit from it financially.

[El Morto La Hoja!]

debt.... murky

[DTR]

That and the King of Spain is a massive Real Madrid Fan and when they were in some serious strife a few years ago he helped them out personally by wiping approx 300 million of debt off for them, which is a big help

[El Morto La Hoja!]

Government....Training Ground...... etc

Bunch of cheats.

[Golden_Boy™]

Jun 5, 2009 13:48:33 GMT -1 El Morto La Hoja! said:

Government....Training Ground...... etc

Bunch of cheats.

Yeah!!

Shit team, shit fans, no class, shit stadium, fake / plastic titles.

All fascists down to the last one of them, the government pays them money all the time for anything they need, bought the training ground of them for like 300m or something.

Complete wankers!