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Post by jh1980 on Oct 11, 2007 9:20:41 GMT -1
That's what Anita used to say... Still a sad fact though! Oh yeah, apart from the fact I didn't dare contradict her lol, she knew what she was talking about there in all fairness
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Post by Mrs H on Oct 11, 2007 9:21:43 GMT -1
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. didn't know it was another men only club It's a quote Hurls.
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Post by jh1980 on Oct 11, 2007 9:21:57 GMT -1
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Relativist Hippie! ;D Y'alright Princess?
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Post by HURLOCK on Oct 11, 2007 9:22:26 GMT -1
Oh yeah, apart from the fact I didn't dare contradict her lol, she knew what she was talking about there in all fairness Ah well the less said about her the better fella, she's a badun
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Post by addicted2venos on Oct 11, 2007 9:22:31 GMT -1
Mr Mandela was a terrorist, he has not been hounded like the KKK. Infact he seems to have been rewarded for his actions Well as jailed time served usually acts as a buffer in these things, the 27 years in spent in prison should still mean that he's still in credit by some distance!!
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Post by Neko Bazu on Oct 11, 2007 9:23:13 GMT -1
No, they have - see Eric Robert Randolph (committed a series of bombings across the southern United States in the 1990s, killing three people and injuring at least 150 others) and Clayton Waagner as famous case studies. After a little research, I can also offer the Army Of God, the Freedomites and the National Liberation Front of Tripura as militant groups, the latter being genuinely terrorist. I was merely pointing out the medieval mentality wasn't limited to religious groups Oh... I stand corrected! Still, those nutters are mostly confined to the USA... excuse my insularity but that feels suitably far away! Nice if they'd all fuck off and jump off a cliff nonetheless...! Ah, yeah they sound suitably crazy... Fair enough. The Freedomites are mostly Canadian (which really surprised me - they're usually so sane! ), and the Tripura mob are trying to create an independant Christian state in India - apparently, they're known for bombing campaigns, executions and forced conversion at gunpoint!
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Post by Neko Bazu on Oct 11, 2007 9:24:08 GMT -1
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. The world is never going to agree on this level of discourse. The Muslims are being extremely clever by making this move by forcing the Catholic church to voice an opinion on the subject. Maybe the Muslims and the Christians should be dealing with their own demons before they try combating each others! Agreed on both counts - it's still nice that they've made the offer in the first place though!
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Post by HURLOCK on Oct 11, 2007 9:27:19 GMT -1
Mr Mandela was a terrorist, he has not been hounded like the KKK. Infact he seems to have been rewarded for his actions Well as jailed time served usually acts as a buffer in these things, the 27 years in spent in prison should still mean that he's still in credit by some distance!! Whilst I concede that maybe this was the only way to deal the oppressive regime, it does not make it right! Innocents died as a result of his actions. It's a conveniently forgotten fact!
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Post by Mrs H on Oct 11, 2007 9:27:50 GMT -1
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. Relativist Hippie! ;D Y'alright Princess? I can live with that title I'm not three bad actually. Had a bad night last night and a bit of a rant at Eoin but other than that I'm fine You?
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Post by Mrs H on Oct 11, 2007 9:30:02 GMT -1
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. The world is never going to agree on this level of discourse. The Muslims are being extremely clever by making this move by forcing the Catholic church to voice an opinion on the subject. Maybe the Muslims and the Christians should be dealing with their own demons before they try combating each others! Agreed on both counts - it's still nice that they've made the offer in the first place though! I'm not sure nice is the word....shrewd is the one that I'd use. The problem is if the Catholic church respond in anyway that isn't favourable to the Islamic world it only fuels the extremists.
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Post by jh1980 on Oct 11, 2007 9:30:13 GMT -1
Whilst I concede that maybe this was the only way to deal the oppressive regime, it does not make it right! Innocents died as a result of his actions. It's a conveniently forgotten fact! Yes... as I didn't say to a certain woman, torturing or shooting protestors ain't ideal either (woo look at that moral cowardice ) Anyway as you say Hurls, shouldn't fight fire with fire, but then again how else DO you sort it... peaceful protest didn't do those poor Burmese monks much good
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Post by jh1980 on Oct 11, 2007 9:32:16 GMT -1
I can live with that title I'm not three bad actually. Had a bad night last night and a bit of a rant at Eoin but other than that I'm fine You? Good to hear it Aww, yeah saw summat of that, don't worry about it. All is chipper in the little world of Jules, thank you!
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Post by HURLOCK on Oct 11, 2007 9:48:46 GMT -1
Whilst I concede that maybe this was the only way to deal the oppressive regime, it does not make it right! Innocents died as a result of his actions. It's a conveniently forgotten fact! Yes... as I didn't say to a certain woman, torturing or shooting protestors ain't ideal either (woo look at that moral cowardice ) Anyway as you say Hurls, shouldn't fight fire with fire, but then again how else DO you sort it... peaceful protest didn't do those poor Burmese monks much good I don't know old boy, that is when the international community should get involved
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Post by jh1980 on Oct 11, 2007 9:52:00 GMT -1
I don't know old boy, that is when the international community should get involved Ah yes... but that's fraught with more potential cans of worms, maybe if we're bored this arvo we can discuss that...!
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Post by CHOPPER READ on Oct 11, 2007 17:18:46 GMT -1
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