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Feb 19, 2009 11:11:34 GMT -1
Post by C@V on Feb 19, 2009 11:11:34 GMT -1
CAV OOZES CLASS! But which class do you hail from?
Upper class: Generally holders of titles of nobility and their relatives, some with very high levels of inherited wealth. They will often have attended the most famous of Britain's schools, such as Eton, Harrow and Winchester.
Upper middle class: Generally professionals with advanced university degrees and usually with a public school education. A significant proportion of their wealth is often from inheritance.
Middle class: Similar to the upper middle class but usually from a less establishment-based background and education. Generally professionals with a university degree. Will typically own their own home and earn well above the national average.
Lower middle class: May not hold a university degree but works in a white collar job and will earn just above the national average.
Upper working class: Generally does not hold a university degree and works in skilled or well experienced role such as supervisor, foreman, or skilled trade such as plumber, electrician, joiner, tool-maker, train driver.
Working class: Generally has low educational attainment and works in a semi-skilled or unskilled blue collar profession, in fields such as industrial or construction work. Some examples would be a drill press operator, car assembler, welding machine operator, lorry driver, fork-lift operator, docker, or production labourer. Disappearing fast due to de-industrialisation and automation.
Lower working class: Generally works in low/minimum wage occupations, such as cleaner, shop assistant, bar worker. Often employed in the personal service industry.
Underclass: Reliant on state benefits for income, described by Marx as the lumpenproletariat. Also known as "Scum."
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Feb 19, 2009 11:31:37 GMT -1
Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Feb 19, 2009 11:31:37 GMT -1
interesting definitions.
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Feb 19, 2009 12:09:55 GMT -1
Post by Neko Bazu on Feb 19, 2009 12:09:55 GMT -1
No mention of the upper class' inbreeding, I see!
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Feb 19, 2009 12:11:22 GMT -1
Post by C@V on Feb 19, 2009 12:11:22 GMT -1
No mention of the upper class' inbreeding, I see! Tis a myth, don't you know? |
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Feb 19, 2009 12:20:56 GMT -1
Post by Mrs H on Feb 19, 2009 12:20:56 GMT -1
Well under those descriptions I would be middle class but I don't read the Daily Mail or have the need to be PC about everything.
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Feb 19, 2009 12:25:18 GMT -1
Post by C@V on Feb 19, 2009 12:25:18 GMT -1
Well under those descriptions I would be middle class but I don't read the Daily Mail or have the need to be PC about everything. It doesn't say anything about the Daily Mail. Most intelligent people would choose not to read that crock of shit! The Guardian or Independent are the best. |
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Feb 19, 2009 12:25:51 GMT -1
Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Feb 19, 2009 12:25:51 GMT -1
Well under those descriptions I would be middle class but I don't read the Daily Mail or have the need to be PC about everything. the descriptions fail to take into account where you could from.... my father's background is unequivocally working class, but by those descriptions, cos he's worked hard throughout his life, he's middle class - hmmmmm ... whats that saying about being the class throughout your life? |
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Feb 19, 2009 12:28:49 GMT -1
Post by Mrs H on Feb 19, 2009 12:28:49 GMT -1
Well under those descriptions I would be middle class but I don't read the Daily Mail or have the need to be PC about everything. the descriptions fail to take into account where you could from.... my father's background is unequivocally working class, but by those descriptions, cos he's worked hard throughout his life, he's middle class - hmmmmm ... whats that saying about being the class throughout your life? My parents would both fit into the working class category too but me and my brother woul both be middle class. Does that mean we have to look down on our parents? I'd rather not as they worked hard and supported me financially through both my degrees. |
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Feb 19, 2009 12:29:29 GMT -1
Post by C@V on Feb 19, 2009 12:29:29 GMT -1
Well under those descriptions I would be middle class but I don't read the Daily Mail or have the need to be PC about everything. the descriptions fail to take into account where you could from.... my father's background is unequivocally working class, but by those descriptions, cos he's worked hard throughout his life, he's middle class - hmmmmm ... whats that saying about being the class throughout your life? I think that has changed though because the opportunity to select the circles you move in is more open to the individual now. You could be born in to a working class environment but via the route you take in education/career you could become middle class. |
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Feb 19, 2009 12:31:31 GMT -1
Post by C@V on Feb 19, 2009 12:31:31 GMT -1
the descriptions fail to take into account where you could from.... my father's background is unequivocally working class, but by those descriptions, cos he's worked hard throughout his life, he's middle class - hmmmmm ... whats that saying about being the class throughout your life? My parents would both fit into the working class category too but me and my brother woul both be middle class. Does that mean we have to look down on our parents? I'd rather not as they worked hard and supported me financially through both my degrees. That's all in your head! Where does it say that class means you have to look down on someone. I am middle class as is all my family and friends. I don't look down on or with disdain on others just becuse they do not fit in to my class structure. That is just something you have an issue with in your own head. |
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Feb 19, 2009 12:36:46 GMT -1
Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Feb 19, 2009 12:36:46 GMT -1
the descriptions fail to take into account where you could from.... my father's background is unequivocally working class, but by those descriptions, cos he's worked hard throughout his life, he's middle class - hmmmmm ... whats that saying about being the class throughout your life? My parents would both fit into the working class category too but me and my brother woul both be middle class. Does that mean we have to look down on our parents? I'd rather not as they worked hard and supported me financially through both my degrees. the other thing is that people often define class as some sort of social-ideology....... i don't think my ideology is middle class - i went to Cambridge university to visit a friend recently; apart from my friends that went too, i wouldn't say i could relate to any of the other people i met .... all too prim and proper. |
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Feb 19, 2009 12:39:50 GMT -1
Post by Mrs H on Feb 19, 2009 12:39:50 GMT -1
My parents would both fit into the working class category too but me and my brother woul both be middle class. Does that mean we have to look down on our parents? I'd rather not as they worked hard and supported me financially through both my degrees. the other thing is that people often define class as some sort of social-ideology....... i don't think my ideology is middle class - i went to Cambridge university to visit a friend recently; apart from my friends that went too, i wouldn't say i could relate to any of the other people i met .... all too prim and proper. That's because you're a scrubber ;D |
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Feb 19, 2009 12:41:07 GMT -1
Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Feb 19, 2009 12:41:07 GMT -1
oh... and most people that call themselves working class are middle class anyway  |
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Feb 19, 2009 12:42:42 GMT -1
Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Feb 19, 2009 12:42:42 GMT -1
the other thing is that people often define class as some sort of social-ideology....... i don't think my ideology is middle class - i went to Cambridge university to visit a friend recently; apart from my friends that went too, i wouldn't say i could relate to any of the other people i met .... all too prim and proper. That's because you're a scrubber ;D you try coming from Grantham and having social graces  i was sitting there thinking "jesus you people talk alot of shit of nothing".... |
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Feb 19, 2009 12:49:04 GMT -1
Post by Mrs H on Feb 19, 2009 12:49:04 GMT -1
That's because you're a scrubber ;D you try coming from Grantham and having social graces i was sitting there thinking "jesus you people talk alot of shit of nothing".... And did it hurt you to think that? |
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Feb 19, 2009 12:51:18 GMT -1
Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Feb 19, 2009 12:51:18 GMT -1
you try coming from Grantham and having social graces i was sitting there thinking "jesus you people talk alot of shit of nothing".... And did it hurt you to think that? not really - it took me half a second to figure out the answer to what they had to ponder over for half an hour.... strange people |
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