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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Dec 30, 2008 21:16:53 GMT -1
if you saw the game tonight vs Villa you will know it wasnt a penalty, the ball hit the bar not Youngs hand. BUT how was that decision come by? The ref gave the pen then after being pressurised by the Villa players he went to the linesman who AFTER listening to the 4th official watching a reply reversed his decision and gave a goal kick. Obviously no one would admit the 4th official was involved but from watching the replay the ref stands beside the linesman for a long time whist the linesman has his hand to his ear listening to his earpiece. In football we do not allow TV evidence so the pen should have stood whether the decision was right or wrong.
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Post by MagicalUnited on Dec 30, 2008 21:21:16 GMT -1
signs of the future.........................................
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Dec 30, 2008 21:23:01 GMT -1
maybe yes, but not at the moment.
We all know it wasnt a pen but it was how that decision was come by that is in question.
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Post by officergroyman on Dec 30, 2008 21:24:42 GMT -1
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Dec 30, 2008 21:25:47 GMT -1
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Post by officergroyman on Dec 30, 2008 21:30:22 GMT -1
well you got to admit that was a pretty sweet goal by Kamil Zayatte. totally fooled the keeper.    I'm just saying that at least Hull scored a goal, as Villa couldn't get it done on their own. & yes a poor decision by the ref & his crew, they need to take a pag eout of the Major League Baseball Umpires book. They're NEVER wrong EVER !!!  |
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Dec 30, 2008 21:31:34 GMT -1
i am all for TV evidence but until it is official it should not be used and IMO it was tonight.
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Post by GresleyRam©®™ on Dec 30, 2008 21:36:25 GMT -1
Happened at Derby earlier this season against Sheff Utd. Surely the correct procedure would be to consult the linesman before making a decision?
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Dec 30, 2008 21:37:26 GMT -1
Happened at Derby earlier this season against Sheff Utd. Surely the correct procedure would be to consult the linesman before making a decision? yes it should, but the linesman was in touch with the 4th official as well |
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Post by Alex on Dec 30, 2008 21:40:23 GMT -1
Don't get me started!  Haven't seen the replays yet, but as far as I am aware i know it wasn't a penatly. *BUT*, surely the referee saw something to give it! If he wasn't sure, check with the lino first, *then* make a decision. It took the Villa players to surround the referee to pressure him into asking his linesman! What happened to this respect campaign where players aren't allowed to surround referees? Secondly, our first goal should have stood! Once again though, any player going near a goalkeeper, and it's a freekick! Dead pissed off about it all. Didn't deserve to lose at all. A draw would have been a fair result. |
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Post by officergroyman on Dec 30, 2008 21:40:56 GMT -1
Happened at Derby earlier this season against Sheff Utd. Surely the correct procedure would be to consult the linesman before making a decision? Blades & Villains both cheaters ;D |
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Post by Lollipop on Dec 30, 2008 21:42:56 GMT -1
Think they were more cheated by the not giving of the goal they 'scored'. Nothing wrong with it!
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Dec 30, 2008 21:45:24 GMT -1
Don't get me started! Haven't seen the replays yet, but as far as I am aware i know it wasn't a penatly. *BUT*, surely the referee saw something to give it! Only for the Villa players to surround the referee to pressure him into asking his linesman! What happened to this respect campaign where players aren't allowed to surround referees? Secondly, our first goal should have stood! Once again though, any player going near a goalkeeper, and it's a freekick! Dead pissed off about it all. Didn't deserve to lose at all. A draw would have been a fair result. cant blame the Villa players any team would have done the same, but the decision wasnt made between the ref and linesman. The ref was wrong to give the pen but the decision should have stood because the linesman didnt see anything. we all know it wasnt a pen but it should have been given, after all plenty of wrong decisions are given during a game when TV isnt used |
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Dec 30, 2008 21:46:21 GMT -1
Think they were more cheated by the not giving of the goal they 'scored'. Nothing wrong with it! yes the reaction of the Villa keeper gave that away, he knew he had fucked up |
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Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Dec 30, 2008 23:41:22 GMT -1
Happened at Derby earlier this season against Sheff Utd. Surely the correct procedure would be to consult the linesman before making a decision? Blades & Villains both cheaters ;D *ahem* the penalty decision in the derby vs blades match was correct (ie no pen.) however THE SOFT FUCKING REF.(!!!!!!!!!) then allowed derby's second goal, a blatant hand ball, purely because the derby fans were whining about the penalty decision he got right! SO WHO WAS CHEATED!?!?! |
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Dec 31, 2008 10:23:34 GMT -1
this isnt an argument whether it was a pen or not Mort, we all know it wasnt, it is the use of the 4th official looking at a tv
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Post by Alex on Dec 31, 2008 11:53:43 GMT -1
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Post by gt on Dec 31, 2008 11:54:32 GMT -1
Yeah, stop it  |
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Post by Alex on Dec 31, 2008 12:00:21 GMT -1
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Post by gt on Dec 31, 2008 12:03:44 GMT -1
He is a digressive disgrace!
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Haven't seen the replays yet, but as far as I am aware i know it wasn't a penatly. *BUT*, surely the referee saw something to give it! If he wasn't sure, check with the lino first, *then* make a decision. It took the Villa players to surround the referee to pressure him into asking his linesman! What happened to this respect campaign where players aren't allowed to surround referees?
