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Post by Mrs H on Sept 10, 2007 13:57:23 GMT -1
I really am offended at all this stereotypical holliganism slurs that get thrown Millwalls Way. Y ou have us down as nothing but racist thugs who delight in the beating, bricking and torturing of those who do not support Millwall and who do not come from South east London. I abhor this view and am angry that such slurs are made. Football occasionally breaks out at the Den you know. It didn't when we played you and scored the most bizarre goal ever and then had to put a defender in the net ;D
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Post by HURLOCK on Sept 10, 2007 13:58:18 GMT -1
Football occasionally breaks out at the Den you know. If we allow the term to be used loosely... whereas at the Kenny...........
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Post by caligula on Sept 10, 2007 14:01:21 GMT -1
Football occasionally breaks out at the Den you know. If we allow the term to be used loosely... No I will not use the term loosely
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Post by C@V on Sept 10, 2007 14:02:45 GMT -1
If we allow the term to be used loosely... No I will not use the term loosely Damn right the term is spot on and as tight as Michelle McManas' trousers!
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Post by caligula on Sept 10, 2007 14:14:17 GMT -1
I really am offended at all this stereotypical holliganism slurs that get thrown Millwalls Way. Y ou have us down as nothing but racist thugs who delight in the beating, bricking and torturing of those who do not support Millwall and who do not come from South east London. I abhor this view and am angry that such slurs are made. Football occasionally breaks out at the Den you know. It didn't when we played you and scored the most bizarre goal ever and then had to put a defender in the net ;D Ah Bizarre own goals at the den, seen one or two of those in my time, for and against! Serioux in goal was that, dreadlocked dude?
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Post by caligula on Sept 10, 2007 14:15:15 GMT -1
CAVROYAL, when is Yom Kippur?
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Post by jh1980 on Sept 10, 2007 14:18:07 GMT -1
CAVROYAL, when is Yom Kippur? He won't know!
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Post by C@V on Sept 10, 2007 14:26:26 GMT -1
Yom Kippur is on 22nd of September the 10th day of Tishrei...................why?
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Post by jh1980 on Sept 10, 2007 14:28:30 GMT -1
Yom Kippur is on 22nd of September the 10th day of Tishrei...................why? Wonderful thing, t' interweb...
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Post by C@V on Sept 10, 2007 14:30:42 GMT -1
Yom Kippur is on 22nd of September the 10th day of Tishrei...................why? Wonderful thing, t' interweb... It is indeed because it means we can all chat on here. If you are suggesting I didn't know when Yom Kippur is then you're mistaken. Jules you of all people know I'm a spiolt little Jew boy!
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Post by jh1980 on Sept 10, 2007 14:35:05 GMT -1
It is indeed because it means we can all chat on here. If you are suggesting I didn't know when Yom Kippur is then you're mistaken. Jules you of all people know I'm a spiolt little Jew boy! Heh. I don't know what you are son, but trust me, I wouldn't call you a "spoilt little Jew boy" even if that description was accurate!
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Post by CHOPPER READ on Sept 10, 2007 14:37:02 GMT -1
Yom Kippur is on 22nd of September the 10th day of Tishrei...................why? Wonderful thing, t' interweb... I had to look up when Christmas Day was.
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Post by C@V on Sept 10, 2007 14:37:50 GMT -1
It is indeed because it means we can all chat on here. If you are suggesting I didn't know when Yom Kippur is then you're mistaken. Jules you of all people know I'm a spiolt little Jew boy! Heh. I don't know what you are son, but trust me, I wouldn't call you a "spoilt little Jew boy" even if that description was accurate!
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Post by jh1980 on Sept 10, 2007 14:41:28 GMT -1
I was having an interesting conversation the other night about slavery in ancient Egypt though. I find it deeply unlikely that the Jewish people were enslaved there. Persecuted in some ways maybe, but not enslaved. What do you reckon?
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Post by C@V on Sept 10, 2007 14:46:15 GMT -1
I was having an interesting conversation the other night about slavery in ancient Egypt though. I find it deeply unlikely that the Jewish people were enslaved there. Persecuted in some ways maybe, but not enslaved. What do you reckon? Tbh Jules there is no clear cut evidence that there was any slavery in Egypt! It is more likely that there was poorly paid labor which can almost amount to slavery but the workers had the option to walk away!
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Post by CHOPPER READ on Sept 10, 2007 14:50:08 GMT -1
I was having an interesting conversation the other night about slavery in ancient Egypt though. I find it deeply unlikely that the Jewish people were enslaved there. Persecuted in some ways maybe, but not enslaved. What do you reckon? Tbh Jules there is no clear cut evidence that there was any slavery in Egypt! It is more likely that there was poorly paid labor which can almost amount to slavery but the workers had the option to walk away! True,current thinking is that such great monuments like the pyramids and the great temples would have been built by a dedicated workforce loyal to the gods and pharohs as opposed to a slave force.
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Post by caligula on Sept 10, 2007 14:53:35 GMT -1
no evidence of slavery?
Hmm, there are stone tablets at the British Museum that state quite clearly that the "Habirou" who were once your slaves have now risen against us and we ask for rienforcements to rise up against them"
habirou is connected with the Hebrews. You also have to bear in Mind that the egyptians often enslaved any nation they conquered, there are clear records that indicate this. there are also clear records that they conquered Israel, and it would therefore be logical to point out they they would then enslave as many of the conquered individuals as they could. it would be ridiculous to suggest that they did not enslave the conquered population Of Israel.
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Post by jh1980 on Sept 10, 2007 14:54:24 GMT -1
Tbh Jules there is no clear cut evidence that there was any slavery in Egypt! It is more likely that there was poorly paid labor which can almost amount to slavery but the workers had the option to walk away! I broadly agree... but I was under the impression that it is quite important on a religious level that the account given of the hardships in Egypt is correct... Put it this way, a lot of religious Jewish people would leap down my throat at that suggestion.
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Post by Mrs H on Sept 10, 2007 14:56:19 GMT -1
Tbh Jules there is no clear cut evidence that there was any slavery in Egypt! It is more likely that there was poorly paid labor which can almost amount to slavery but the workers had the option to walk away! I agree... but I was under the impression that it is quite important on a religious level that the account given of the hardships in Egypt is correct... Put it this way, a lot of religious Jewish people would leap down my throat at that suggestion. Its a good job he's not Jewish then isn't it. We wouldn't want you two sensitive people to fall out. Right night all
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Post by C@V on Sept 10, 2007 14:57:59 GMT -1
no evidence of slavery? Hmm, there are stone tablets at the British Museum that state quite clearly that the "Habirou" who were once your slaves have now risen against us and we ask for rienforcements to rise up against them" habirou is connected with the Hebrews. You also have to bear in Mind that the egyptians often enslaved any nation they conquered, there are clear records that indicate this. there are also clear records that they conquered Israel, and it would therefore be logical to point out they they would then enslave as many of the conquered individuals as they could. it would be ridiculous to suggest that they did not enslave the conquered population Of Israel. In ancient Egypt, textual references to slaves are indistinct. From word usage alone, it is difficult to ascertain whether one was a slave or a servant. For example, a priest could be read as a god's slave, but by our definition and understanding of slavery he is not. In reading Egyptian texts, therefore, context is the only criteria for determining such a status, and even then, it can be difficult, because there were different levels of servitude. I do not consider my fore fathers as being enslaved by Egypt!
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