cjpowerdcfc
League 2 Player
i was on the telly :D
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Post by cjpowerdcfc on May 5, 2008 15:46:32 GMT -1
ha ha leicester...........ha ...ha ....kind regards from Derby County the people who sing at the fact of relegation (rather loudly) while others swear, cry an moan ...an cry ...
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Post by GeoFox on May 5, 2008 15:47:42 GMT -1
Thanks Gres. Its not been as bad as I thought it would be. I suppose I have seen it coming for a while, particularly after the Wendies defeat. Haha its all good banter! And I'm sure Stoke will run your record close next season, but it will take some beating! As for Howard and Oakley, sorry, but I hope they are amongst the first out of the door this summer! i started a thread about Howard & Oakley in the derby boards - ive heard Oakley is considering retiring! you'll be back, and typical Leicester - they have to get one up on us all the time. Just when we thought we were BAD, you pip us to the post! ;D If its any consolation, my first game at the BBG was in Div. 3 - at least you'll have some novel away games to go to! Indeed, I saw a load of donkeys carting children down the beach at Weston-Super-Mare on Saturday....had to double glance as I thought half the Leicester squad had moved on to jobs more appropriate to them already! Yes, not an easy weekend with Forest going up and us saving Coventry by the skin of their teeth too. I've been looking at the internet football ground - novel is the word!
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Post by GeoFox on May 5, 2008 15:50:04 GMT -1
If only we hadn't got that dodgy penalty that Surman tucked away at the Walkers... nah we were shit that day anyway and deserved the loss. If Hume had scored his penalty last week mind, it might have been a different story...
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Post by GeoFox on May 5, 2008 15:50:58 GMT -1
ha ha leicester...........ha ...ha ....kind regards from Derby County the people who sing at the fact of relegation (rather loudly) while others swear, cry an moan ...an cry ... well you've practically been relegated since September.
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Post by Nik *QPR* on May 5, 2008 16:19:22 GMT -1
Unlucky Geo, commiserations.
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Post by GeoFox on May 5, 2008 16:19:58 GMT -1
Thanks Nik
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Post by GresleyRam©®™ on May 5, 2008 16:39:59 GMT -1
ha ha leicester...........ha ...ha ....kind regards from Derby County the people who sing at the fact of relegation (rather loudly) while others swear, cry an moan ...an cry ... well you've practically been relegated since September. no point dragging it out and making it more painful mate! ;D
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Post by GeoFox on May 5, 2008 16:41:10 GMT -1
well you've practically been relegated since September. no point dragging it out and making it more painful mate! ;D Absolutely! ;D Same outcome at the end of the day isn't it!
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Post by CHOPPER READ on May 5, 2008 16:43:25 GMT -1
no point dragging it out and making it more painful mate! ;D Absolutely! ;D Same outcome at the end of the day isn't it! Not really. We will still be hosting some good games next season. You lot have Yeovil,MK Dons,Peterboro,Sarfend.......
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Post by GeoFox on May 5, 2008 16:46:41 GMT -1
...that wasn't what I meant. I mean do crap all season and get 11 points or get relegated on the last day with 52...you are still playing in the league below, starting on 0 next season.
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Post by CHOPPER READ on May 5, 2008 16:50:12 GMT -1
...that wasn't what I meant. I mean do crap all season and get 11 points or get relegated on the last day with 52...you are still playing in the league below, starting on 0 next season. Most Derby fans knew it would be for one season only and have not booed our side once. When Mandaric came in with his millions you lot were going places. Well,not quite the place you are going to you thought.
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Post by GeoFox on May 5, 2008 16:52:56 GMT -1
indeed and that is the travesty of it. Spent a lot of money and look where we are. Lots of mistakes have been made on and off the pitch, at managerial and chairman level.
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Post by CHOPPER READ on May 5, 2008 16:56:09 GMT -1
Mandaric is a twat. The only thing Holloway has proved himself worthy of doing is writing his so called honest opinions in newspaper columns.
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Post by GeoFox on May 5, 2008 17:03:43 GMT -1
I don't think he is a twat, my opinions on him are in the other thread. My opinion could of course be changed, depending on what he decides to do.
I freely admit to thinking Ian Holloway was the right man to take us forward. I accepted he would be a bit dodgy tactically, I even thought his signings would be very mixed (although they were good at Plymouth)...but the one thing I thought he would do is motivate the players to play as a team in a manner which far exceeds their capabilities. He failed miserably in all regards, which is why we are where we are. I am 90% certain, after listening to Milan in a couple of interviews that he (Ollie) will be gone by the end of the week.
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Post by CHOPPER READ on May 5, 2008 17:07:39 GMT -1
Mandaric brought all these managers in Ash. No one else.
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Post by GeoFox on May 5, 2008 17:11:42 GMT -1
Very true mate. Probably the biggest mistake was not rewarding Nigel Worthington with some sort of contract after keeping us up last year. Hindsight is a great thing though and I can understand most of the decisions he made at the time, even if some of them were wrong. He backed Ollie and Allen with money though, more than enough to ensure that we shouldn't have been relegated.
If he left now, and there was no proper buyer we would be straight into admin, as he is wracking up the club's debt, not using his own money. Risky strategy, worked elsewhere, may not here!
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Post by GeoFox on May 8, 2008 19:17:23 GMT -1
A good Guardian article by Matt Bolton which sums up relegation (and the crap thats built up to it) for us very eloquently: In April 2002, with 10 minutes to go and Leicester City a goal down to Manchester United in the match confirming Leicester City's relegation to the second division after six years of unprecedented top flight success, a familiar chant was struck up by the nub of hardcore fans pointedly standing in the lower tier of Filbert Street's Double Decker stand. Stand Up If You Love Leicester is often treated with mild disdain by those who prefer to actually watch the game than bounce out of their seats every two minutes. Not this time, however. The prospect of demotion sent a Mexican wave rippling around the stadium and within 30 seconds every home fan was on their feet. Tellingly, there was no such crie de cour during last Sunday's match at Stoke, the game that sent Leicester down to the third tier for the first time in their 124-year history. It's not because the fans have stopped loving Leicester City; more that there's nothing there to love anymore. We all saw it coming. The tears shed by the fans caught by Sky's traditional end-of-season sweep of the ground were not borne of disbelief; they stemmed from hollow resignation. Years of financial mismanagement, kicked off by Peter Taylor's catastrophic transfer dealings during the post-O'Neill comedown - famously, £5.5m for Ade Akinbiyi, £1m for Trevor Benjamin - finally took their toll. Manager after hapless manager arrived at the Walkers, accompanied each time by a fresh wave of uncommitted or ageing or just plain useless players, who dutifully clapped their hands at the stands as they traipsed off the pitch after yet another anodyne performance, caring nothing for what Leicester City was and should be, only about their next pay cheque. The crowds still filed in, greeting each new season with optimism, but all too soon the realisation dawned that the cheers from the stands were for nothing - everything the club once embodied had been hollowed out from the inside, leaving only a desiccated blue and white husk. The advent of the age of Milan briefly lifted the gloom - money, ambition, hope at last. Unfortunately, Mandaric's record at Portsmouth has been obscured by the fact that in stumbling across Harry Redknapp, he got lucky. At Leicester there was no such luck and after four failed quick fire managerial appointments, and it soon became clear that he had learnt nothing. Rob Kelly out, Nigel Worthington in for five games, Martin Allen for three, Gary Megson for nine, and then finally Ian Holloway, destined to be remembered as the man who terminated Leicester's membership of that elite strata of clubs never to play below the top two divisions. Holloway talks a good game and is always quick with a quip and a BBC column, but this is a football club, not a comedy stage. What was needed was authority and tactical savvy, not winks and witticisms. The post-relegation interviews saw the usual apologetic platitudes trotted out, near offensive in their banality. Just watch: the players who can will leave as soon as possible, Holloway will be slung out on his ear and now even Mandaric is hinting at wanting out. Which leaves the fans, the only aspect of Leicester City Football Club that's still worth standing up for, propping up the whole sorry debacle once more. Every club likes to wax lyrical about the nature of its support but there was something tragically poignant about 31,000 supporters pouring down Filbert Way for the home match against Sheffield Wednesday that would have secured the club's status. The biggest crowd of the season anywhere in the Championship saw their side slump to a pitiful 3-1 defeat. For a city like Leicester, stuck in the forgotten East Midlands, ignored by the media and treated as a suburb of Birmingham, the football club is the one avenue open to national consciousness. As O'Neill, Heskey, Izzet, Lennon et al hit their late-90s heights, they dragged the city's status and morale up with them. The process of rot and disintegration that followed, starting with Taylor and ending with Holloway, has sunk it deeper than ever before.
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Post by PASTIE on May 8, 2008 20:31:17 GMT -1
Good piece of writing. It even left me thoroughly depressed...
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Post by NoCanariesAllowed (Ipswich'02) on May 9, 2008 7:56:15 GMT -1
There's a lot to be said for that article. I'm still cautious over saying who is to blame for it - Mandaric, the managers, the players - but I usually state the core of responsibility in the third of those three. Maybe Mandaric got lucky at Portsmouth, but the most important thing was that he stuck with it until it worked. Provided he does the same at Leicester (and the suggestion is that he will), then the club should benefit in the long run. Maybe not giving Worthington a contract was a mistake, but was he really the man to fire them into the Premiership?...
I think the part that catches my eye the most is the role of the club as a representation of the city - too right Leicester is forgotten about, largely ignored by the media etc., and it's a damn shame. Sport can be a great thing for putting a place on the map (e.g. Gretna!!!), but seeing as Leicester has one of the finest rugby union sides in the world and still gets ignored, I think we can safely say that unless the football team pulls its weight, there is little to put the city in the spotlight.
(What are you doing to yourself reading articles like this, Geo?! Wasn't the Stoke game depressing enough?! ;D Lol!)
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Post by GeoFox on May 10, 2008 18:40:05 GMT -1
There's a lot to be said for that article. I'm still cautious over saying who is to blame for it - Mandaric, the managers, the players - but I usually state the core of responsibility in the third of those three. Maybe Mandaric got lucky at Portsmouth, but the most important thing was that he stuck with it until it worked. Provided he does the same at Leicester (and the suggestion is that he will), then the club should benefit in the long run. Maybe not giving Worthington a contract was a mistake, but was he really the man to fire them into the Premiership?... I think the part that catches my eye the most is the role of the club as a representation of the city - too right Leicester is forgotten about, largely ignored by the media etc., and it's a damn shame. Sport can be a great thing for putting a place on the map (e.g. Gretna!!!), but seeing as Leicester has one of the finest rugby union sides in the world and still gets ignored, I think we can safely say that unless the football team pulls its weight, there is little to put the city in the spotlight. (What are you doing to yourself reading articles like this, Geo?! Wasn't the Stoke game depressing enough?! ;D Lol!) Haha! I'm not sure, I procrastinate quite easy when I'm working so I read different stuff. My first thought when I read the last parahraph was the Leicester Tigers...the most successful club rugby side in England (even if they have had a poor season - until today - this year), and possibly in Europe - their fans would probably be a bit annoyed with that para. But you're right, unless it is England, or you have much of an interest in rugby, it gets very little attention. I don't like rugby but generally want the Tigers to do well as they are my local side. But there is quite a big inter-city rivalry between the 2 clubs - lots of city fans don't like the Tigers and vice versa. Tigers were at home today and they got the result they needed. I was in town today seeing lots of Tigers fans before the game, and whilst there off going for European rugby and the like, in a bad season, I felt subtlely bitter that lots of them are either quite glad, or couldn't give a toss their local football team are in the 3rd division. No real basis for a grievance, but it annoyed me nonetheless! ;D We are the space capital of the country don't ya know?
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