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Post by ovechkin8 on Dec 19, 2007 9:57:44 GMT -1
Should players who have resided in this country a number of years be allowed to play for England ?
Pepe Reina has already stated he would love to play for England & there are several other players already qualified by virtue of residency to play for the national team for instance Julio Arca at Middlesborough.
Should we start recruiting these players if they were to improve the national side.
Other countries are taking advantage of this. Portugual have already fielded several Brazilians as have Croatia & Bulgaria(Lucio Wagner).
Italy have pinched several Argentines ie Mauro Camorenesi , Osvaldo , Forestieri & Dellafiore. France have had no problems in taking players from Africa either that were born in Africa though there its very much a two way thing.
Germany however had this situation several years ago when they were deciding if Everton should play for the national side. Voller ruled against this but they on the eve of the 2002 WC did opt to bring in Ghanaian Asamoah.
I am very much against this as in rugby as it blurs the boundaries of who one select from & dilute the nature of international competition.
Your views boarders ?
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Post by GresleyRam©®™ on Dec 19, 2007 10:00:42 GMT -1
Should players who have resided in this country a number of years be allowed to play for England ? Pepe Reina has already stated he would love to play for England & there are several other players already qualified by virtue of residency to play for the national team for instance Julio Arca at Middlesborough. Should we start recruiting these players if they were to improve the national side. Other countries are taking advantage of this. Portugual have already fielded several Brazilians as have Croatia & Bulgaria(Lucio Wagner). Italy have pinched several Argentines ie Mauro Camorenesi , Osvaldo , Forestieri & Dellafiore. France have had no problems in taking players from Africa either that were born in Africa though there its very much a two way thing. Germany however had this situation several years ago when they were deciding if Everton should play for the national side. Voller ruled against this but they on the eve of the 2002 WC did opt to bring in Ghanaian Asamoah. I am very much against this as in rugby as it blurs the boundaries of who one select from & dilute the nature of international competition. Your views boarders ? If other countries do it to their benefit then why not?? can we have Mikel Arteta as well then?? Cuducini would be another i'd imagine??
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Dec 19, 2007 10:03:25 GMT -1
I say recruit who we can and get rid of the shower we have now. If other countries are doing it then why shouldnt we
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Post by HURLOCK on Dec 19, 2007 10:12:52 GMT -1
It would at the very least make the existing squad less complacent!
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Post by C@V on Dec 19, 2007 10:43:01 GMT -1
It's bloody stupid. That is the whole point of club football...................choosing players from around the world. If this continues in to international football then it becomes a farce and we might as scrap international football.
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Post by HURLOCK on Dec 19, 2007 10:51:34 GMT -1
Could argue it's already happened, what with Zola Budd, Tony Cascarino. The list goes on. Furthermore you could argue Michael Owen etc., are not British
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Post by Neko Bazu on Dec 19, 2007 11:36:59 GMT -1
Could argue it's already happened, what with Zola Budd, Tony Cascarino. The list goes on. Furthermore you could argue Michael Owen etc., are not British Where was Owen born then? Personally, I don't think there should be any rules against it, but it's not really in the spirit of international football. The caveat for me is which country a player considers home - if I were to move to the US, for instance, I would still only consider England to be home. Had I moved there at four years old, it would probably be another matter. Ditto here - would those footballers honestly consider themselves to be part of the country they live in? Would Reina say he considers himself more English than Spanish? If yes, then fine, let him play. If, as I suspect, he would rather be referred to as a Spaniard, then that's where his loyalties should lay.
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Post by HURLOCK on Dec 19, 2007 12:29:49 GMT -1
Could argue it's already happened, what with Zola Budd, Tony Cascarino. The list goes on. Furthermore you could argue Michael Owen etc., are not British Where was Owen born then? Personally, I don't think there should be any rules against it, but it's not really in the spirit of international football. The caveat for me is which country a player considers home - if I were to move to the US, for instance, I would still only consider England to be home. Had I moved there at four years old, it would probably be another matter. Ditto here - would those footballers honestly consider themselves to be part of the country they live in? Would Reina say he considers himself more English than Spanish? If yes, then fine, let him play. If, as I suspect, he would rather be referred to as a Spaniard, then that's where his loyalties should lay. His parents are Welsh, I was trying to goad Cav!
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Post by ovechkin8 on Jul 9, 2008 22:06:48 GMT -1
News for ESR who I believe (Gres can confirm) is of Croatian origin ?
Croatia look to get hold of former Banfield now Ajax striker Dario Cvitanich as with Eduardo.
In this case they have more of a case as Cvitanich is of Croat ancestry (clue is in the name).
Nonetheless this loophole needs to be closed as this could become a farce whereby richer nations pinch top players from poorer ones as with France to boost their chances.
Surely its time for FIFA to introduce the rule you can only play for the country of birth.
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