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Post by Neko Bazu on Jan 23, 2008 14:01:28 GMT -1
When you think about it watching films online isn't much different from borrowing your mates DVDs. Argue with that. Playing devil's advocate; if your mate's bought the DVD, they've at least gotten money from one of the two of you. When one person buys and rips a DVD and 10,000 download it, it's a bit of a different story. So there
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Post by Dr LuKas on Jan 23, 2008 14:06:30 GMT -1
When you think about it watching films online isn't much different from borrowing your mates DVDs. Argue with that. Playing devil's advocate; if your mate's bought the DVD, they've at least gotten money from one of the two of you. When one person buys and rips a DVD and 10,000 download it, it's a bit of a different story. So there I have 10,000 mates. ;D
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Post by ollietimms on Jan 23, 2008 14:43:57 GMT -1
LondonRam - the more compelling argument is about piracy and links to other organised crime, sex traffickers etc. However I don't believe that what most people here are owning up to contributes to those problems. In short, the "money funds criminals" case - which is entirely true. However, our legitimate money also funds the masses of film stars and artists that take illegal drugs - so in response to that argument, when they stop breaking the law, so will I! ;D LR, most of a DVD's value is actually profit - the majority of the film's budget, including wages, is recouped from the box office release (often surpassing it nowadays). I do see your point, but that only really applies in the case of straight-to-DVD releases, which are often low-budget anyway and so have fewer costs to recover. I honestly do sympathise with your dad losing his job, but I ask this question - if play.com, independant sellers on ebay, amazon.com etc can all make a decent profit selling legitimate items at such low prices, why do Blockbuster struggle? If they sold at lower prices - which they could; they'll get their stock cheaper than those companies because of negotiating power - then they'd be competitive and thus not have to sack staff. Instead, they'd rather maximise their profits - and if it means shedding a few people along the way, so be it. As long as the shareholders are happy and the board get their bonuses, right? Don't get me wrong; I'm not condoning illegal downloads in any way, and certainly not buying or selling pirate copies - I'm just saying there are more factors at work than that. Very true mate, I imagine Play.com and such websites are continueing to run because they're offering to sell DVD's at cheap prices, whereas blockbuster rent them out, im sure that play's a big part in your question as a fact that £5 or so to rent a DVD is pointless when you can buy one for not too much more in some cases. And I imagine play.com dont have nearly as many workers of all types as blockbuster, because its over the net, where as blockbusters is a large company spread across the country. And the busisness was one that distributed low budget films which went straight to DVD.
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Post by GresleyRam©®™ on Jan 23, 2008 17:49:21 GMT -1
In short, the "money funds criminals" case - which is entirely true. However, our legitimate money also funds the masses of film stars and artists that take illegal drugs - so in response to that argument, when they stop breaking the law, so will I! ;D LR, most of a DVD's value is actually profit - the majority of the film's budget, including wages, is recouped from the box office release (often surpassing it nowadays). I do see your point, but that only really applies in the case of straight-to-DVD releases, which are often low-budget anyway and so have fewer costs to recover. I honestly do sympathise with your dad losing his job, but I ask this question - if play.com, independant sellers on ebay, amazon.com etc can all make a decent profit selling legitimate items at such low prices, why do Blockbuster struggle? If they sold at lower prices - which they could; they'll get their stock cheaper than those companies because of negotiating power - then they'd be competitive and thus not have to sack staff. Instead, they'd rather maximise their profits - and if it means shedding a few people along the way, so be it. As long as the shareholders are happy and the board get their bonuses, right? Don't get me wrong; I'm not condoning illegal downloads in any way, and certainly not buying or selling pirate copies - I'm just saying there are more factors at work than that. Very true mate, I imagine Play.com and such websites are continueing to run because they're offering to sell DVD's at cheap prices, whereas blockbuster rent them out, im sure that play's a big part in your question as a fact that £5 or so to rent a DVD is pointless when you can buy one for not too much more in some cases. And I imagine play.com dont have nearly as many workers of all types as blockbuster, because its over the net, where as blockbusters is a large company spread across the country. And the busisness was one that distributed low budget films which went straight to DVD. so really, the only people you can call c*nts are the ones selling pirated copies of low budget, straight to DVD films. I agree, they are wankers! ;D
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Post by ollietimms on Jan 23, 2008 18:35:20 GMT -1
Very true mate, I imagine Play.com and such websites are continueing to run because they're offering to sell DVD's at cheap prices, whereas blockbuster rent them out, im sure that play's a big part in your question as a fact that £5 or so to rent a DVD is pointless when you can buy one for not too much more in some cases. And I imagine play.com dont have nearly as many workers of all types as blockbuster, because its over the net, where as blockbusters is a large company spread across the country. And the busisness was one that distributed low budget films which went straight to DVD. so really, the only people you can call c*nts are the ones selling pirated copies of low budget, straight to DVD films. I agree, they are wankers! ;D No, im calling ANYONE who sells ANY pirate DVD's a c*nt, because they're destroying the industry!
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Post by Neko Bazu on Jan 23, 2008 19:04:05 GMT -1
No, im calling ANYONE who sells ANY pirate DVD's a c*nt, because they're destroying the industry! I'd say utterly shite writers and lazy companies aren't exactly helping - I mean, over the last five years, how many genuinely quality original films have been released? Everything's remakes, poor sequels or taken from books now, and I know lots of people who're disenchanted and uninterested now because of the amount of crap you have to sift through. If they gave us better films, we'd buy more. Easy logic.
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Post by Coxy™ on Jan 29, 2008 20:04:12 GMT -1
i have the new bee movie i am selling it for £3 any takers ;D
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Post by Teesside White on Jan 29, 2008 22:31:29 GMT -1
i just watched Juno on a website
i also watched Superbad on the same website the other day
both are well good!
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Post by miz on Jan 30, 2008 11:43:42 GMT -1
I get my dvds normally from my usual ddddddddvvvvvvvvddddddd man.
Blinding copies.
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