|
Post by MozzaBedfordSpur on Jun 18, 2006 7:17:59 GMT -1
Tottenham and England midfielder Jermaine Jenas may quit Spurs over a row about where he plays and who they are signing. (People)
|
|
|
Post by CHOPPER READ on Jun 18, 2006 7:27:40 GMT -1
No player is bigger than any club. And that comes on the back of Sven saying he will re-jig Englands midfield for the Sweden game. Sounds like he's putting himself in the shop window just in case he gets a game,and plays well of course.
|
|
|
Post by JJ on Jun 18, 2006 8:10:37 GMT -1
Jenas and/or his advisors are complete fuckwits if there is any truth in this story. Since when did Jenas dictate transfer policy?
|
|
|
Post by J'Arry the Spurrier on Jun 18, 2006 8:50:53 GMT -1
Well the other rumours are all wholly believable as well:
News of the World:
Arsenal are set to bid for Spurs midfielder Michael Carrick, which will be funded by Ashley Cole’s £20m move to Chelsea.
Arsenal manager Arséne Wenger is favourite to take over at Real Madrid.
Daily Star Sunday.
Chelsea’s Damien Duff is an £8m target for Spurs.
Sunday Mirror,
Spurs will bid £10m for Charlton’s Darren Bent.
|
|
|
Post by JJ on Jun 18, 2006 8:54:20 GMT -1
Aye, tis silly season and the papers need to sell somehow
|
|
|
Post by J'Arry the Spurrier on Jun 18, 2006 9:00:13 GMT -1
The only rumour that seems likly is the Cole to Chelsea one.
Why they waste time on the Wenger to Madrid rumour is beyond me. Wenger is going nowhere soon. Arsenal - complete control, new stadium, Henry resigning, exciting youngsters - or Madrid - madhouse politics, player infighting, aging galacticos. Where else will he find a team which shares his name.
We've repeatedly been linked with Duff and £8m would be a good price for a player that fits a need, but I don't see Chelsea selling.
|
|
|
Post by J'Arry the Spurrier on Jun 18, 2006 9:07:09 GMT -1
Taking the Jenas story seriously for a moment, for the point of argument. I often wonder how players react to all the rumours about them being traded or deals that affect them.
Jol has persisted with Jenas and Carrick all season, even when Davids or Tainio might have been better choices with Carrick in the centre. So Jenas should feel good about his situation.
However, in the January window we brought in two central midfielders - Ghaly and Murphy - and now are linked with at least two more - Zokora and Steven Reid (sic). So what is he to think?
|
|
|
Post by mortontheblade on Jun 18, 2006 10:44:01 GMT -1
i always thought he was up his own arse ;D
|
|
|
Post by Sterland (S4E) on Jun 18, 2006 10:45:59 GMT -1
I'm with you on that.. Always had the attitude but was never the player.. i always thought he was up his own arse ;D
|
|
|
Post by Tony Yeboah's Lunchbox on Jun 18, 2006 11:40:37 GMT -1
Well the other rumours are all wholly believable as well: News of the World: Arsenal are set to bid for Spurs midfielder Michael Carrick, which will be funded by Ashley Cole’s £20m move to Chelsea. Arsenal manager Arséne Wenger is favourite to take over at Real Madrid. Daily Star Sunday. Chelsea’s Damien Duff is an £8m target for Spurs. Sunday Mirror, Spurs will bid £10m for Charlton’s Darren Bent. I can't believe Carrick would go to Arsenal having played for you i mean ok i know Sol did and i know loyalty is somewhat a thing of the past however he seems a sensible lad with his head screwed on. Plus that Ashley Cole thing is a load of balls because they are supposedly getting Roberto Carlos and Phillip Lahm. But thats rumours for you. Wenger will not leave Arsenal for Madrid no way. Not considering the state Madrid are in and they have a lot of work to do to get things right where as Arsenal are a team on the up with a new generation of players and a brand spanking new stadium. He'd be a fool to take that job in Spain. I can believe the Duff rumour i mean he has had his first team chances scuppered in the past season or so and a player of his calibre might feel ready to move on......good price too if you could get him for that and he's a lefty which you've needed for so long. Am i the only one who doesn't rate Bent? I think he's just had one of those seasons like Phillips, Stewart and Beattie had where they do it once and don't back it up. If i were you i wouldn't fall for the bait like Everton did with Beattie and go for someone much higher up the scale.
|
|
|
Post by MozzaBedfordSpur on Jun 18, 2006 11:51:36 GMT -1
Carrick won't go to Arsenal on the strength that would not sell any of our players to Arsenal, regardless of price, as for Campbell he stabbed us in the back and walked there on a free, the lying scum bag.
As for Bent, he could be like Marcus Stewart, but what if someone else buys him and he smashses it, remember Charlton struggled for the last three quarters of the season, but he was still banging in the goals.
|
|
|
Post by Tony Yeboah's Lunchbox on Jun 18, 2006 11:58:40 GMT -1
Carrick won't go to Arsenal on the strength that would not sell any of our players to Arsenal, regardless of price, as for Campbell he stabbed us in the back and walked there on a free, the lying scum bag. As for Bent, he could be like Marcus Stewart, but what if someone else buys him and he smashses it, remember Charlton struggled for the last three quarters of the season, but he was still banging in the goals. Yeah but i think your in danger of not quite getting the equilibrium of the side right with too many young english players. There is no denying its good to have a strong english influence throughout the sdie. Some of them are really good players too like Robbo, King, Lennon and Carrick. Some are kinda good but will not progress much from the level they are at now like Jenus and the others. I think you need to have 2 to 3 of what i'd call players in the 'world' bracket especially as you should really be playing in europe year in year from now on. I'd like to see you get a few of the names your linked too such as Kuijt/ Duff/ Torres and such alike but thats just my opinion.
|
|
|
Post by JJ on Jun 18, 2006 12:00:17 GMT -1
Agree with all you say there Hulse, apart from the Carrick bit. He's a Geordie so has no real ties with Tottenham, unlike Campbell who was thought of as being Spurs through and through. Although like Mozz says, whether the club would contemplate selling him to Arsenal is a different matter.
If he DOES go anywhere, Man U are the obvious English club and I think he would fit in very well to their style of play
|
|
|
Post by MozzaBedfordSpur on Jun 18, 2006 12:02:51 GMT -1
I know what you mean Hulsey, we need some world class players, not your bog standard players such as Jenas, Murphy and even Steven Reid, we have the best of the young Brits, now time to season and flavour the team with some impressive foreign imports.
Torres please?
|
|
|
Post by Tony Yeboah's Lunchbox on Jun 18, 2006 12:06:34 GMT -1
I know what you mean Hulsey, we need some world class players, not your bog standard players such as Jenas, Murphy and even Steven Reid, we have the best of the young Brits, now time to season and flavour the team with some impressive foreign imports. Torres please? Well Torres would be class but i suppose he'd want the Champions League wouldn't he. Thing is if you can get in people like Davids it might send out the signal for other players in this bracket to join. Looking at this World Cup thus far there are several bargains to be had as well which would definatly be in your interest to go for.
|
|
|
Post by MozzaBedfordSpur on Jun 18, 2006 12:09:07 GMT -1
The only thing with the World cup, if a player has a good tournament, his price inflates to ridiculous heights, and then you have Chelsea over pay, to keep their rivals at bay.
|
|
|
Post by J'Arry the Spurrier on Jun 18, 2006 12:10:24 GMT -1
Yeah but i think your in danger of not quite getting the equilibrium of the side right with too many young english players. There is no denying its good to have a strong english influence throughout the sdie. Some of them are really good players too like Robbo, King, Lennon and Carrick. Some are kinda good but will not progress much from the level they are at now like Jenus and the others. I think you need to have 2 to 3 of what i'd call players in the 'world' bracket especially as you should really be playing in europe year in year from now on. I'd like to see you get a few of the names your linked too such as Kuijt/ Duff/ Torres and such alike but thats just my opinion. An English/British spine/core is good. An all England team is not a good idea, unless we can get Gerrard and Rooney. But it is a fun excercise proposing a complete team of England prospects, especially in discussions with the gooners. Not sure if we are looking at another established striker unless Defoe leaves. Kuyt was the top target apparently for most of the past year, until we bought Berbatov, and Torres was mentioned in January. But I think Torres is pricing himself out of our reach in this world cup. A quality left winger is the priority, regardless of nationality. Duff would certainly fit the bill and £8m would be a good price.
|
|
|
Post by Tony Yeboah's Lunchbox on Jun 18, 2006 12:15:05 GMT -1
The only thing with the World cup, if a player has a good tournament, his price inflates to ridiculous heights, and then you have Chelsea over pay, to keep their rivals at bay. True, thats why you have to act quick normally although sometimes maybe you do just have to cut your losses and pay big for the player if he is going to make the difference
|
|
|
Post by PureOldGold on Jun 18, 2006 12:15:24 GMT -1
you're welcome to send JJ to Wolves on loan as a punishment.
;D
|
|
|
Post by J'Arry the Spurrier on Jun 18, 2006 12:15:25 GMT -1
Agree with all you say there Hulse, apart from the Carrick bit. He's a Geordie so has no real ties with Tottenham, unlike Campbell who was thought of as being Spurs through and through. Although like Mozz says, whether the club would contemplate selling him to Arsenal is a different matter. If he DOES go anywhere, Man U are the obvious English club and I think he would fit in very well to their style of play Carrick might be interested in a move back north, but who knows what he thinks. Realistically, I cannot see why Wenger would want him now they have Fabregas and Rosicky to partner Gilberto in the centre. If anything they'd be looking for a more combative player to replace Gilberto as he ages. Carrick would fit in at United, but not as the hyped Keane replacement. He would link up well with Rooney and Ronaldo, but would need the combative midfielder alongside. The proposed partnership with Scholes is too lightweight. On compative midfielders, Zokora could be of interest to Arsenal and United as well as us.
|
|