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Post by mortontheblade on Jun 10, 2006 17:30:33 GMT -1
LOL blades babe? I will never be a bb ;D Yeah sure you are I think he means BB is his newly revealed feminine side. *slap*
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Post by J'Arry the Spurrier on Jun 11, 2006 7:47:02 GMT -1
Martin Jol in the Sunday Times:
"Perhaps, given his back problems, Gerrard can be rested versus Trinidad and Michael Carrick can get his chance. I’d like that. By now you are all aware Manchester United have bid for my player, but why would I want to sell somebody as good as Michael? I’m trying to build a side, not take it apart."
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Post by MozzaBedfordSpur on Jun 11, 2006 8:11:10 GMT -1
Hmmm but would an increased bid circa 12-15 million, tempt him to consider selling?
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Post by J'Arry the Spurrier on Jun 11, 2006 8:35:38 GMT -1
Unless we have someone who is definitely better then no.
Say we forced United to pay 20 million and got another 15 million for Defoe. What could we do with the money to get an improvement in those positions. The players we would want in the 15-20M range would want CL football if ambitious or a large salary to compensate. We cannot offer the first and the second would break the wage structure.
Its a bit of of catch-22: to get the players needed to progress, we need to progress first. The only way to break the cycle is to get young players before they become to expensive and to hold onto them. This probably means changes in the wages structure - financed by europe and new sponsorship deals. Now is not the time to sell our most important players.
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Post by MozzaBedfordSpur on Jun 11, 2006 8:53:23 GMT -1
I just hope all this speculation does not unsettle Carrick, making him seek a move to Old Trafford?
If only we had nabbed 4th place, then this issue may not of even arised, but I think Fergie can tempt him by dangling the opportunity of CL football, lets hope loyalty will play it's part.
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Post by JJ on Jun 11, 2006 8:57:16 GMT -1
loyalty in football Mozz?!?!??
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Post by J'Arry the Spurrier on Jun 11, 2006 9:03:10 GMT -1
We can't really play the loyalty card. We took Carrick and Defoe from West Ham when relegated and Lennon and Robinson from Leeds when relegated. We can't expect to be immune from player ambition. It is a good sign that Lennon and Robinson are locked up in long term deals, as are King, Keane and Dawson.
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Post by JJ on Jun 11, 2006 9:13:52 GMT -1
Exactly JtS. What goes around will surely come around....
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Post by J'Arry the Spurrier on Jun 11, 2006 9:22:17 GMT -1
Not necessarily.
Ledley King signed a new contract and he is probably more important than Carrick. The question is can we offer enough hope of progress to keep the players interested (and the wages to match). King and Robinson currently think so. If we don't improve, though, they will probably want to make a move in a couple of years when at their peak (27-28)
Sol Campbell spent 10 years at the club and saw no hope of progress. If it wasn't for the lying about signing a contract and then leaving on a free, then no one would have blamed him for leaving.
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Post by J'Arry the Spurrier on Jun 11, 2006 9:25:06 GMT -1
JJ, saw the Saviola goal again.
I will stick to my view it was offside. The player in the centre was offside and involved in play in that the goalkeeper was not free to come out until he was sure the ball was going to Saviola and by then it was too late.
I know the new interpretation is allowing goals like that, but it is against the letter of the law and the spirit of the law.
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Post by spursbabe on Jun 11, 2006 9:41:03 GMT -1
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Post by J'Arry the Spurrier on Jun 11, 2006 9:46:45 GMT -1
Most of the papers seem to think an offer of 14-15 million will be sufficient for United. Althought they also say RVN could be part of the package, which I think unlikely.
Zakora looked impressive yesterday. He is linked with us now, but he was linked with UNited earlier in the season. If United get Carrick, we can tell them to keep their paws off Zakorra or maybe now they will renew their interest in him. Zakora seems a better Keane replacement than Carrick, and certainly a better partner for Paul Scholes.
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Post by spursbabe on Jun 11, 2006 9:49:55 GMT -1
Its hard to know what to believe, I just hope he stays with us, but who know's
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Post by MozzaBedfordSpur on Jun 11, 2006 9:50:59 GMT -1
Well I don't think MJ has the slightest intention to sell, but it could be out of his hands as Comolli is in charge of transfers at WHL.
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Post by mortontheblade on Jun 11, 2006 9:52:05 GMT -1
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Post by Bobcat Robinson on Jun 11, 2006 9:53:48 GMT -1
If Jol dosent want to sell him, i dont think Carrick will leave! Carrick seems happy at WHL in my opinion!
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Post by mortontheblade on Jun 11, 2006 9:55:59 GMT -1
If Jol dosent want to sell him, i dont think Carrick will leave! Carrick seems happy at WHL in my opinion! Carricks will judge who he'll think will be more successful, over the next years, imo, could go either way
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Post by spursbabe on Jun 11, 2006 9:58:05 GMT -1
Scott Brown, I think not Hi Mort
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Post by MozzaBedfordSpur on Jun 11, 2006 9:59:18 GMT -1
Scott Brown, I think we are done with Brown's ;D
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Post by spursbabe on Jun 11, 2006 10:00:32 GMT -1
Scott Brown, I think we are done with Brown's ;D LOL lets hope so anyway Mozz
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