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Post by Rulesaints on Oct 17, 2007 15:51:31 GMT -1
Not in our hands anymore Will we qualify?
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Post by Arnold on Oct 17, 2007 15:53:59 GMT -1
Nope. Quite frankly I am glad. Our bunch of useless overpaid wanker footballers do not deserve it. Maclaren to get the boot. Cant wait for all the bleating about the pitch etc etc
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Oct 17, 2007 16:01:36 GMT -1
well that was bollox How the fuck did Gerrard miss
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Post by GeoFox on Oct 17, 2007 16:30:01 GMT -1
We probably didn't deserve to lose the game. If we fail to qualify, I'd say it was through failings earlier on in the group phase than this game. Still I'd have liked to have seen a bit more.
Fingers crossed Israel can beat Russia. And our game against Croatia will by no means be a formality.
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Post by Rulesaints on Oct 17, 2007 16:49:43 GMT -1
Scotland are lsing aswell
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Post by ITFC Dudette6 on Oct 17, 2007 17:00:16 GMT -1
Nope. Quite frankly I am glad. Our bunch of useless overpaid wanker footballers do not deserve it. I quite agree.
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Post by CarrowGirl on Oct 17, 2007 17:03:54 GMT -1
I agree with Arnie too
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Post by PureOldGold on Oct 17, 2007 17:13:42 GMT -1
Russia won't pick up all 3 points in Israel, so i think we might sneak in if we can beat Croatia at home, you can't just point the finger at Gerrard, Rooneys silly tackle and Robinsons punch at a shot that he could have held or at least punched it away to safety. We didn't deserve to lose to be honest and i thought we played ok.
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Post by CHOPPER READ on Oct 17, 2007 17:45:41 GMT -1
Thrown away again.
McClaren made his worst move in footy when he left Derby.
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Post by Cappsy-DCFC on Oct 17, 2007 18:11:12 GMT -1
if England cant qualify for Euro with Estonia, Macedonia and Andorra in their group....somethings not right! I cant remember when i didnt have a summer without a tournament for England...i will be supporting Scotland (well the Derby players in them) is they qualify!
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Post by Teesside White on Oct 17, 2007 18:23:52 GMT -1
i cant believe were now relying on Isreal and Andorra (lol) to help us out
if Andorra hold Russia then i think it will be more embarrassing than in the WC 94 qualifiers when San Marino more or less knocked us out
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Post by Lollipop on Oct 17, 2007 19:40:40 GMT -1
Load of shite.
How rubbish will next summer be if we don't make it.
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Post by Tony Yeboah's Lunchbox on Oct 17, 2007 20:12:13 GMT -1
Load of shite. How rubbish will next summer be if we don't make it. Who cares, we'll still be getting pissed after Leeds' promotion
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Post by Lollipop on Oct 17, 2007 20:17:32 GMT -1
Load of shite. How rubbish will next summer be if we don't make it. Who cares, we'll still be getting pissed after Leeds' promotion Haha
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Post by RMBB on Oct 18, 2007 6:25:22 GMT -1
should never have got rid of Sven, Maclaren is useless, ok as 2nd in charge but no good as manager
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Post by Neko Bazu on Oct 18, 2007 6:41:11 GMT -1
should never have got rid of Sven, Maclaren is useless, ok as 2nd in charge but no good as manager We weren't gonna win anything with Sven either though - he could get us through qualifying groups relatively comfortably, but he couldn't motivate the players at a higher level or out-think the best managers. This is what the Sun readers etc, who were clamouring for an English manager, asked for though. Perhaps, when the next appointment is made, they'll overlook the "English necessity," and get a manager who understands how English football is played (i.e. play the players to their strengths - high-tempo, aggressive play), and who has the guts to drop players who aren't performing. That's not a reference to the Russia game; it reflects the entire qualifying campaign. No more yes-men and media darlings! First-season-at-Chelsea Mourinho, anyone?
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Post by HURLOCK on Oct 18, 2007 7:28:29 GMT -1
Bottom line is England are not good enough on the international field, there seems to be some sort of mental block there. The players are above their station.
I don't think the issue lies with the manager it's the players, look at what Svens doing with Man City. Speaks volumes in my eyes - the red tops should be told to fuck off.
However who will be next for the poison chalice, it's the job from hell really
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Post by Dr LuKas on Oct 18, 2007 9:00:49 GMT -1
Unbelieveable.
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Post by Beerwulf on Oct 18, 2007 11:50:52 GMT -1
Israel will do something silly like try to beat Russia. Israel have one strength and that is that they get men behind the ball and are difficult to break down. Why would they do that against Russia? They can't qualify.
Two bands of four and hoof is occasionally acceptable in the Championship. But this is England's standard level. We can out pass Estonia, Andora etc. But as a team we are not able to beat Russia (away though a big decision went against them too at Wembley) and we are pessamistic about our chances against Croatia. Up tempo, aggressive, run around, thump the badge, 110% effort lads football is great on a Sunday morning but is easily undone by the likes of Hiddink.
We need another manager who understands opposition and how to spoil and beat them. We haven't had one since Hoddle and there hasn't been a material difference in the way England play since he had to stand down. Antone can pick the best eleven and I would do it for a tenth of what they are paying McClaren.
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Post by urrzzzzzzzzzz on Oct 18, 2007 14:09:26 GMT -1
Our overpaid bunch of lazy footballers are not even fit to lick the feet of our considerably lower paid rugby players who have shown guts and determination in recent weeks despite not having a great load of talent. Sportsmen who care and want to win make such a difference, our bunch of very talented footballers lack that and only have themselves to blame if they don't qualify.
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