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Post by C@V on May 14, 2007 14:45:13 GMT -1
I support the secular campaigners who are standing against the rapid Islamisation of their country.
If Turkey becomes like Iran it will be a disaster for Europe!
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Post by CHOPPER READ on May 14, 2007 14:47:32 GMT -1
And what about our shores? If Islam is bad for Europe it will be a disaster for this country.  |
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Post by jh1980 on May 14, 2007 14:59:07 GMT -1
Although your views are eminently sensible fellas, I can't help thinking this kind of sentiment is unfortunate.
What we need are more liberal Muslims in positions of authority/ popularity across the Islamic world... the only way things will improve (imho) is if the religiously-liberal view remains the most popular and strong.
Just for the heck of being the trendy leftie I still am, I'll point out that ALL hardcore religiosity is a threat to modern liberal societies...
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Post by CHOPPER READ on May 14, 2007 15:02:51 GMT -1
I say what i do because we are a small country and already overcrowded and it won't be long before this fighting nation starts fighting back. I fear that will be the worst scenario we face.
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Post by Ninja Squirrel on May 14, 2007 15:04:18 GMT -1
Things is would we be able to have that kind of protest in this country with out riot police and mass arrests?
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Post by jh1980 on May 14, 2007 15:04:43 GMT -1
I say what i do because we are a small country and already overcrowded and it won't be long before this fighting nation starts fighting back. I fear that will be the worst scenario we face. Sure fella, but do you realise how much that sounds like "Rivers of Blood" - and honestly, I don't mean to offend...  |
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Post by Main Admin Account on May 14, 2007 15:06:39 GMT -1
Jules your allowed your view but Im afraid that Cav and Chopper are right ;D
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Post by CHOPPER READ on May 14, 2007 15:07:06 GMT -1
Oh i am aware of how it sounds but the people of this country,not just the "whites" will soon get fed up of those who came here for what they can take and those who come here to cause trouble. I know you know what i mean. I say what i do because we are a small country and already overcrowded and it won't be long before this fighting nation starts fighting back. I fear that will be the worst scenario we face. Sure fella, but do you realise how much that sounds like "Rivers of Blood" - and honestly, I don't mean to offend... |
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Post by jh1980 on May 14, 2007 15:15:48 GMT -1
Oh i am aware of how it sounds but the people of this country,not just the "whites" will soon get fed up of those who came here for what they can take and those who come here to cause trouble. I know you know what i mean. Of course I know what you mean... and I'm not the sort to take the piss about these things. At the same time I reckon you have to be careful HOW you say things... guess that makes me politically minded, and therefore a bit of a cocksucker?  Off home, will check this thread sometime later...  |
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Post by Ninja Squirrel on May 14, 2007 15:17:07 GMT -1
Burn em all |
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Post by CHOPPER READ on May 14, 2007 20:10:47 GMT -1
I am just straight to the fuckin point blunt old Chopper. You lot all know that by now. Oh i am aware of how it sounds but the people of this country,not just the "whites" will soon get fed up of those who came here for what they can take and those who come here to cause trouble. I know you know what i mean. Of course I know what you mean... and I'm not the sort to take the piss about these things. At the same time I reckon you have to be careful HOW you say things... guess that makes me politically minded, and therefore a bit of a cocksucker? Off home, will check this thread sometime later... |
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Post by jh1980 on May 14, 2007 23:20:10 GMT -1
I am just straight to the fuckin point blunt old Chopper. You lot all know that by now. Aye... and you won't find any criticism of that fella! (Especially in my mellow moments, like now!) |
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Post by ovechkin8 on May 15, 2007 6:27:51 GMT -1
Problem is the theocrats always suceed by force.To counter it you have to have an army dictatorship which might happen soon in Turkey.
I don't want Turkey in the EU thanks liberal or not. They still refute the genocide of the Armenians ,illegally occupy part of Cyprus & membership will mean millions will enter Europe.Besides they will be a huge economic drain on the sucessful economies of Europe.
And Chopper is right. The demographics show that Muslims are the fastest growing population in Europe. Its already causing huge concerns in Holland & Sweden over the future of their culture & heritage.They feel threatenend already.Why ? Because they have not integrated & refuse to accept Western mores.
And here you already have towns ie Leicester,Bradford ,West Yorskhire where the whites are in a minority.Muslims have not integrated at all for the most part & are here in a reverse colonization.
When they become the majority you'll see their true colours. Hence no more immigration thanks & no child benefits to immigrants. They are not for the most part refugees but illegal economic migrants & definitely not Anglophiles.
Meanwhile in the classroom kids like Hannah get brainwashed with multiculturalism (= absence /denial of indigenous culture) & how wonderful,clap your hands at the way England is going.
After all denying your own heritage is a perfect way to deny your Englishness to prepare one for this brave new loony trendy left world.I'm sick of this social engineering & PC garbage.
Left wing policies have been for the most part a complete failure in every regard ie education.
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