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Post by Mrs H on Jan 18, 2007 15:08:52 GMT -1
God the Mail must be absolutely wetting themselves about this BB story!!
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Post by jh1980 on Jan 18, 2007 15:08:57 GMT -1
How is that racist though? I fail to understand. Fuckin 'ell...it wont be long till the world 'black' is banned. Pathetic. Err... you don't think it's racist to tell someone from another country "why don't you go back home" (or more usually "fuck off home") Next you'll be telling me it's not offensive to call someone a C*nt
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Post by HURLOCK on Jan 18, 2007 15:09:46 GMT -1
Well yes, however look at the articles they usually run and tell me they're anymore poignant than big brother. LOL I don't look at the articles they usually run - that's the first time I've looked closely at the front of a copy of The Mail in months?! ;D Thanks a lot, Miz!!! Well neither do I, however have been told it's written for women who like their coffee mornings and debate if Charles should be the next monarch or William. So I've never read or will I read it, only slightly higher in the food chain than the Sun
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Post by jh1980 on Jan 18, 2007 15:11:27 GMT -1
Hurls, if I've never said so before - you're a classy guy!
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Post by miz on Jan 18, 2007 15:11:37 GMT -1
How is that racist though? I fail to understand. Fuckin 'ell...it wont be long till the world 'black' is banned. Pathetic. Err... you don't think it's racist to tell someone from another country "why don't you go back home" (or more usually "fuck off home") Next you'll be telling me it's not offensive to call someone a C*nt I don't...Would that comment be taken so seriously if she was say a White American? I do doubt it.
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Post by Imp on Jan 18, 2007 15:12:36 GMT -1
God the Mail must be absolutely wetting themselves about this BB story!! It'll be the end of civilised Middle England as we know it! Hello H
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Post by jh1980 on Jan 18, 2007 15:13:38 GMT -1
I don't...Would that comment be taken so seriously if she was say a White American? I do doubt it. It'd still be offensive, would it not? To some degree these things are contextual I suppose... What about the "go back to your slums" line? Was that okay too in your book?
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Post by HURLOCK on Jan 18, 2007 15:14:14 GMT -1
Hurls, if I've never said so before - you're a classy guy! Cheers mate, must say likewise for you my friend ;D
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Post by Mrs H on Jan 18, 2007 15:14:21 GMT -1
God the Mail must be absolutely wetting themselves about this BB story!! It'll be the end of civilised Middle England as we know it! Hello H Good, then maybe we can get elminated all the bigoted Middle classes!!!! ;D Hello Imple my love. How's life? Are you a lady of leisure now??
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Post by HURLOCK on Jan 18, 2007 15:16:22 GMT -1
I don't...Would that comment be taken so seriously if she was say a White American? I do doubt it. It'd still be offensive, would it not? To some degree these things are contextual I suppose... What about the "go back to your slums" line? Was that okay too in your book? I will go back to my orignal comment, could Shilpa take Jade to court on the grounds of racism for those comments and win. I do not think so
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Post by addicted2venos on Jan 18, 2007 15:17:06 GMT -1
God the Mail must be absolutely wetting themselves about this BB story!! It was the tagline, to the headline of the Sun that made me smile. 'Dim wit Jade starts race war with India'
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Post by jh1980 on Jan 18, 2007 15:18:12 GMT -1
Good, then maybe we can get elminated all the bigoted Middle classes!!!! ;D Aha! Do I see class envy masquerading as political comment?! ;D I'd *never* say a thing like that!!! ;D
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Post by miz on Jan 18, 2007 15:19:19 GMT -1
I don't...Would that comment be taken so seriously if she was say a White American? I do doubt it. It'd still be offensive, would it not? To some degree these things are contextual I suppose... What about the "go back to your slums" line? Was that okay too in your book? It is maybe offensive but just because it is offensive does not make is racist. Telling someone 'go back to your slums' is again fairly offensive. But I still don't see that as racist. When we played Everton away last season in the cup, we started singing that 'in your liverpool slums' song. I do believe that they are being ignorant but why do people claim it's racism when there hasn't really been any racism at all.
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Post by Imp on Jan 18, 2007 15:19:32 GMT -1
It'll be the end of civilised Middle England as we know it! Hello H Good, then maybe we can get elminated all the bigoted Middle classes!!!! ;D Hello Imple my love. How's life? Are you a lady of leisure now?? I can just imagine the editorial staff, harrumphing into their cups of tea, discussing how this is all down to New Labour, the decline in morality amongst the youth of today and maybe also a result of global warming (I may have made the last one up) Life's ok, not a lady of leisure as such, off work sick (funnily enough, I can't face the thought of going back there as I was being bullied by a member of Senior Management), until my notice period's up. Sorry, will now let the thred get back on topic! ;D
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Post by Mrs H on Jan 18, 2007 15:20:20 GMT -1
Good, then maybe we can get elminated all the bigoted Middle classes!!!! ;D Aha! Do I see class envy masquerading as political comment?! ;D I'd *never* say a thing like that!!! ;D Well according to Shippers I am an aspirational middle class wench because I went to Uni. But if I ever get to the stage of reading the Daily Mail or agreeing with Robert Kilroy Silk then I should be taken out with force and quickly.
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Post by Rulesaints on Jan 18, 2007 15:20:43 GMT -1
The carphone warehouse have pulled out their advertising campaign on BB
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Post by Neko Bazu on Jan 18, 2007 15:20:55 GMT -1
I think, Miz, the 'go home' remark isn't racist in itself, but the undertone is - while I appreciate it wouldn't apply in every case (and may not here, hence why I said it probably wasn't quite racist), the 'unsaid' part of that statement is generally to the effect of, "Your type aren't welcome here," which certainly is racist.
To answer your remark about telling an American to go back home; yes, that'd be racist too (or equally close, at least). The difference is - and I know this comment sounds racist; I see it as a factual observation - white people generally don't play the racism card, so it basically wouldn't matter. It'd be seen as a personal attack on the individual, as opposed to a race-wide slur.
I do wonder, in truth, how many of the people complaining actually believe it was racist, and how many are just taking the opportunity to try to get Jade and/or BB in deep shit.
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Post by jh1980 on Jan 18, 2007 15:20:58 GMT -1
I will go back to my orignal comment, could Shilpa take Jade to court on the grounds of racism for those comments and win. I do not think so Possibly not, with Lawyers being what they are. Never mind, I shall return to my original point - that JG is an obnoxious, ignorant, bigoted bitch!!! In my opinion!!!
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Post by Imp on Jan 18, 2007 15:21:04 GMT -1
It'd still be offensive, would it not? To some degree these things are contextual I suppose... What about the "go back to your slums" line? Was that okay too in your book? I will go back to my orignal comment, could Shilpa take Jade to court on the grounds of racism for those comments and win. I do not think so Sorry to sling in my two pence worth, but does something necessarily need to stand up in a court of law in order for it to be racist?
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Post by Mrs H on Jan 18, 2007 15:23:35 GMT -1
Good, then maybe we can get elminated all the bigoted Middle classes!!!! ;D Hello Imple my love. How's life? Are you a lady of leisure now?? I can just imagine the editorial staff, harrumphing into their cups of tea, discussing how this is all down to New Labour, the decline in morality amongst the youth of today and maybe also a result of global warming (I may have made the last one up) Life's ok, not a lady of leisure as such, off work sick (funnily enough, I can't face the thought of going back there as I was being bullied by a member of Senior Management), until my notice period's up. Sorry, will now let the thred get back on topic! ;D Yes I remember Si telling me. She was a witch wasn't she? Does she weigh the same as a duck?? ;D I don't blame you btw. You and Si are a right old malingering pair aren't you? lol ;D
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