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Post by Tony Yeboah's Lunchbox on Jul 26, 2006 13:59:41 GMT -1
KEVIN BLACKWELL has admitted that "in an ideal world" he would have kept Rob Hulse and says a need to generate transfer funds was a major factor in Leeds United's decision to sell the striker. The 25-year-old underwent a medical at Sheffield United yesterday after an initial fee of £2.1m was agreed between the two Yorkshire rivals. Add-ons based on Hulse's performance and whether the Blades stay in the Premiership could take the sum towards £3m and Blackwell is already looking to re-invest a portion of the fee with Luton captain Kevin Nicholls last night on the verge of completing a £700,000 move. The Leeds manager said: "In an ideal world, you always keep your best players and then add to them. But it isn't an ideal world.
"I wish Rob all the best, he has been a great lad and a good ambassador for the club. I hope he goes on to do well in the Premier League with Sheffield United."Leeds invested almost £3.5m to sign Hulse, Robbie Blake, Richard Cresswell and Dan Harding last summer but their spending power this time around has been restricted by the ending of the parachute payment for clubs relegated from the Premiership. For the past two seasons, United have received an annual payment of around £7m and Blackwell said: "If you haven't got money to spend, it makes it difficult. I have to generate money because the club has lost the parachute payment but this year will still have to pay the £9m wages of people who aren't even still here"."At the end of this season, the club will be in great shape. But we have to get there and I have to keep the club going forward on no money. That is why I have to wheel and deal to work with what I have got.""My track record here has seen people come in for a lot less than what they have left for. We have doubled our money on Rob Hulse. Matthew Spring and Clarke Carlisle came in for nothing, as did Danny Cadamarteri. Simon Walton also did not cost us a penny and yet we brought in around £1m (by selling those players)""It is pleasing to do the business right. My responsibility, and I will never forget this, is to look after the finances of this club and not just the football. So, when a situation comes along where I can help the club financially, then I have to do it."United's striking riches last season contrasted sharply with their lack of numbers in midfield, as illustrated by two loan players, Jonathan Douglas and Liam Miller, making a combined total of 73 appearances. The imminent arrival of Nicholls from Luton to join summer recruits, Seb Carole and David Livermore, should go some way to redressing such an imbalance. Blackwell said: "Kevin will bring extra fire to the midfield because he is that sort of character. He is, for me, a Leeds United player because we are traditionally respected for having a more than aggressive midfield. Kevin is in that mould and with him alongside Shaun Derry, I think we will be guaranteed a few fireworks."So there we are guys. Nicholls and Dezza look to be the centre mid pairing (Bakke?). We won't be spending a million quid on a single player so we may as well forget that. Why are we informed of one set of facts then told different ones only 2 months later? Apparently we didn't have to sell. Wrong. Apparently we had the money to go out and add to the squad. Wrong. What gets me is its all about finance again. Are we in a worse position than we're led to believe? I just don't know anymore. 
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Post by Joe on Jul 26, 2006 14:07:13 GMT -1
Last season he kept on saying how the club had turned around, and we were finanacially stable, and we 'are not a seeling club anymore'. seems like a load of bull now.
They should do one of those meetings again like Gerald Krasner used to do where he invited the fans to come and ask him (when he was chairman) questions about the club, and how things currently stand, financially and otherwise.
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Post by 3spireswhite on Jul 26, 2006 14:12:14 GMT -1
I thought that we finally finished paying the wages of players who are nolonger here , last month . Who are we still paying for now ?
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Post by Tony Yeboah's Lunchbox on Jul 26, 2006 14:18:58 GMT -1
Last season he kept on saying how the club had turned around, and we were finanacially stable, and we 'are not a seeling club anymore'. seems like a load of bull now. Well there is one point we got to be aware of Joe. He is the manager and he has an integral part on who comes in and out of ER. However, with someone like Batesy in charge and pressure from the boardroom, he will always do what he is told or instructed. So if they to him, "sell this player", he has to. So i don't blame him too much on that. But he does seem to continuously say things to build up our hopes then suddenly get all "in an ideal world id love to do this..." I mean was what he said after the playoff final just something to cheer us up after the shambolic display? He is never to quick to point out anything he does good for the club yet doesnt ever own up to getting things wrong. Yes he has done some good things......yes he has helped turn the club around to an extent, brought in some money and that from players he got cheaply but he's had just as much mistakes made. Carlisle and Spring should never have been sold. Pugh......i dont even want to get started on that one. The tactics? Come on KB, your not a bad fella, but keep it real for christ sake |
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Post by Tony Yeboah's Lunchbox on Jul 26, 2006 14:20:32 GMT -1
I thought that we finally finished paying the wages of players who are nolonger here , last month . Who are we still paying for now ? Thats a perfect example of what im getting at. The point was made that this wouldn't be happening for much longer after the season and that as a result we'd have more money to play with. Cheers for highlighting that. Its not just me hearing these things then! |
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Post by Katiekins on Jul 26, 2006 14:24:22 GMT -1
Why wont we be playing bakke. He has played really well and we pay him loads so why arent we gonig to play him? I was also under the impression we were ok financially I am really confused now! |
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Post by Joe on Jul 26, 2006 14:26:11 GMT -1
yeah i know he has got the best interests of the club at heart, im not doubting that, and yes he has done a lot of good, im just sick of all the lies, i honestly thaught we were financially sound again, and were not a 'selling club' but after selling Hulse, and possibly Kilgallon, im not sure anymore, fair enough, we got a good deal with selling Hulse, but i beg KB jnr or snr to sell Killa, he is our brightest star and the future of this football club.
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Post by Katiekins on Jul 26, 2006 14:27:30 GMT -1
If i dont see Killa play this Saturday i will start to really worry
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Post by Tony Yeboah's Lunchbox on Jul 26, 2006 14:33:21 GMT -1
yeah i know he has got the best interests of the club at heart, im not doubting that, and yes he has done a lot of good, im just sick of all the lies, i honestly thaught we were financially sound again, and were not a 'selling club' but after selling Hulse, and possibly Kilgallon, im not sure anymore, fair enough, we got a good deal with selling Hulse, but i beg KB jnr or snr to sell Killa, he is our brightest star and the future of this football club. I am in complete agreement with you and if i was KB i'd be fighting tooth and nail to keep him at this club. They haven't even come out to say anything about it. Its all lies, lies and more lies at the end of the day. I'd love to be a fly on the wall inside our club for a day and see what really is going on.  |
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Post by Tony Yeboah's Lunchbox on Jul 26, 2006 14:34:32 GMT -1
Why wont we be playing bakke. He has played really well and we pay him loads so why arent we gonig to play him? I was also under the impression we were ok financially I am really confused now! Me too, i think Bakke has to be involved....he's top class and he's proving it in the friendlies but KB obviously see's it different and however much we disaprove, you have to back the gaffer reluctantly. |
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Post by Katiekins on Jul 26, 2006 14:36:28 GMT -1
yeah i know he has got the best interests of the club at heart, im not doubting that, and yes he has done a lot of good, im just sick of all the lies, i honestly thaught we were financially sound again, and were not a 'selling club' but after selling Hulse, and possibly Kilgallon, im not sure anymore, fair enough, we got a good deal with selling Hulse, but i beg KB jnr or snr to sell Killa, he is our brightest star and the future of this football club. I am in complete agreement with you and if i was KB i'd be fighting tooth and nail to keep him at this club. They haven't even come out to say anything about it. Its all lies, lies and more lies at the end of the day. I'd love to be a fly on the wall inside our club for a day and see what really is going on. There was that article about killa denying the rumours but i really dont no what to belive anymore |
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Post by Tony Yeboah's Lunchbox on Jul 26, 2006 14:40:42 GMT -1
I am in complete agreement with you and if i was KB i'd be fighting tooth and nail to keep him at this club. They haven't even come out to say anything about it. Its all lies, lies and more lies at the end of the day. I'd love to be a fly on the wall inside our club for a day and see what really is going on. There was that article about killa denying the rumours but i really dont no what to belive anymore Well its out of his hands in all honesty Kate. He may not want to go which is what i believe is the case as he's Leeds through and through. But if he is gonna bring in a wad of cash, the board will seek to sell him and ultimately if thats what Batesy decides, thats what will happen, he'll be forced out. |
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Post by jimbo on Jul 26, 2006 15:26:40 GMT -1
Haven't read things properly but surely we all knew if Blackwell didn't get promoted he'd have to sell to be able to invest in other players, he was given money last Summer and in my opinion spent the money very poorly........ Leeds aren't in a bad situation and by the end of the season but then again we don't have tons of money, thats why it was possible for Leeds to hold out for a good price for Hulse, he wasn't sold to equal the books but to allow Blackie a transfer kitty....... we should be looking at strong, young defenders in League One with the money Blackie has left to spend and if there is anymore left over to get a cheap replacement for Hulse because i haven't heard one Leeds fan say Beckford is good enough....
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Post by ellandroadhero on Jul 26, 2006 15:29:22 GMT -1
if killa goes i am gonna be so angry, if i could bring myself not to i wouldnt even support this club! i know that i could never stop though
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Post by Dr LuKas on Jul 26, 2006 15:47:44 GMT -1
We've got no money, shit. So we're stuck with this squad. We need to make some more additions to get an automatic place I think but we should at least get some loan players in.
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Post by WyomingWhite on Jul 26, 2006 15:53:38 GMT -1
If things are so bad why has Bates spent all the money we got from the play off final on doing up the south stand instead of making it available to bring in new blood?
I'm sure most Leeds fans would put out with the old decor if it meant we could have brought in one of two more players. Afterall, it could mean the difference between promotion or not this year.
For f**** sakeLeeds!! I was actually positive for the past few weeks about you for the first time in ages... .now I don't know what to think. I guess we just have to wait and see what happens and not allow ourselves to become too despondant, it's just so easy to expect the worst after what we've all been through the past three or so years.
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Post by Dr LuKas on Jul 26, 2006 16:01:24 GMT -1
If things are so bad why has Bates spent all the money we got from the play off final on doing up the south stand instead of making it available to bring in new blood? I'm sure most Leeds fans would put out with the old decor if it meant we could have brought in one of two more players. Afterall, it could mean the difference between promotion or not this year. For f**** sakeLeeds!! I was actually positive for the past few weeks about you for the first time in ages... .now I don't know what to think. I guess we just have to wait and see what happens and not allow ourselves to become too despondant, it's just so easy to expect the worst after what we've all been through the past three or so years. It's the football matches that count if we win the vast majority of our matches then I won't care about what signings we do or don't make. |
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Post by coachiolalufc on Jul 26, 2006 17:43:39 GMT -1
can i just point out that being finacially stable, and needing to generate transfer funds are two different things. im not saying anyones wrong because where hearing 2 different things at once, but we are finacially stable and a profit making club, the selling of the player was to reclaim transfer funds, not to stablize the finances at the club
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Post by Fizzy Bread on Jul 26, 2006 18:32:02 GMT -1
Is the loss of Hulse really *that* bad though.. it's not even close to bad say if Killa were to leave.
We've made a tidy profit on him (hey we saw the Blunts coming), the club is trying to generate money for transfers (presumably) and the redevelopment of the South Stand means (hopefully) more income through the East Stand, so it's pretty much winners all round...
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Post by weallloveleeds on Jul 26, 2006 18:49:09 GMT -1
can i just point out that being finacially stable, and needing to generate transfer funds are two different things. im not saying anyones wrong because where hearing 2 different things at once, but we are finacially stable and a profit making club, the selling of the player was to reclaim transfer funds, not to stablize the finances at the club I recieved my season ticket today  It has a letter acompanying it from Bates, and he mentions finances, so I'll just type the relevant bit out: 'Finally, to financial and playing matters. The club has made great progress since 21st January 2005but we still have some way to go. We have stopped our trading losses but the coming season will be difficult. We no longer get the £7m parachute payment from the premier league and we will be carrying £10m on the back of compensation payments to former employees and excessive wages to current players who do not figure in our plans. These are burdens that restrict our ability to invest in new players. Hopefully these problems will dissapear next sumer Losing at the millenium stadium was a great dissapointment but on the other hand we achieved more than we anticipated at the start of the season. As I write, we are seeking to make further improvements in our playing squad, but deals have been difficult to complete so far because in june everybody was either on holiday or at the World Cup." |
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