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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Apr 26, 2008 9:29:17 GMT -1
no need to be sorry mate, its nice to hear a teacher with a bit of common sense and understanding of the situation. Last summer NO common sense was shown and the school acted like it was some fascist state, I mean look at the damage it would have done throwing my son out of school at that age just as he was settling down after making new friends. I see what your saying that its the local authorities who make the rules, but the schools could show a bit of leeway in ceretain circumstances when looking at the facts, not everything is black and white. I can't speak for everywhere, but I think that if the school was to show any leeway then they could be breaking the law... The only solution is to not tell them and call in sick. Crazy isn't it? That was our first idea, to call in sick, but we thought with the circumstances we were in (it was because of my holiday entitlement) the school would understand. Anyway as you say next time its call in sick, i only let my fingers get burnt once.
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Post by PureOldGold on Apr 26, 2008 9:30:32 GMT -1
Give them a pay rise and make college lecturers pay equal as well. I suspect the firefighters will probably want another pay rise as well.
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Post by PASTIE on Apr 26, 2008 9:31:42 GMT -1
Both my parents are retired teachers and when they entered the profession it was a lot different, I am the first generation on my fathers side not to go into this metier. I admire anyone who takes on this role, but when entering the profession you do know that the pay is not great unless you become a head or a deputy. That is a sad fact with regards to majority of public sector workers. What I found bad yesterday was various unions slagging each other off, and even a teacher on the BBC news saying the strikers are out of order and are just plain greedy! I do think that the current government, has invested well in teachers - but this has to go further as these people are our future. The "greedy" bit drives me nuts - especially as most of us are not campaigning over our own wages but the wages and opportunities for generations of teachers who are not yet trained. I agree completely that the education system has improved under Labour although some of the financing of it (PFI etc) had been very dubious and we were always concerned over its long term sustainability. The problem is that having set the ball in motion they now seem to be deflating it just as we were hoping to make the profession credible again. Maybe they could have saved some money by not making those adverts with the stupid lightbulbs...
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Post by PASTIE on Apr 26, 2008 9:32:13 GMT -1
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Post by PASTIE on Apr 26, 2008 9:32:56 GMT -1
I can't speak for everywhere, but I think that if the school was to show any leeway then they could be breaking the law... The only solution is to not tell them and call in sick. Crazy isn't it? That was our first idea, to call in sick, but we thought with the circumstances we were in (it was because of my holiday entitlement) the school would understand. Anyway as you say next time its call in sick, i only let my fingers get burnt once. Like I said, crazy. We encourage lies. What roll models we are!
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Post by PASTIE on Apr 26, 2008 9:33:28 GMT -1
Give them a pay rise and make college lecturers pay equal as well. I suspect the firefighters will probably want another pay rise as well. Hope they get it. And the coastguard. And the nurses. And the local government workers...
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Post by ArgyleChick on Apr 26, 2008 9:34:41 GMT -1
I'm in a non-striking union.. mind you my union reps at work are naff. One of the girls was having a problem and she phoned the ones in the Trust and they didn't even get back to her so someone from Union HQ in Exeter had to come down, I rang them once in the Trust and they didn't even get back to me either - crap!
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Apr 26, 2008 9:35:02 GMT -1
Give them a pay rise and make college lecturers pay equal as well. I suspect the firefighters will probably want another pay rise as well. Hope they get it. And the coastguard. And the nurses. And the local government workers... and the airport workers
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Post by PureOldGold on Apr 26, 2008 9:36:55 GMT -1
Give them a pay rise and make college lecturers pay equal as well. I suspect the firefighters will probably want another pay rise as well. Hope they get it. And the coastguard. And the nurses. And the local government workers... Never really understood why they get less pay, i understand they don't all have full schedules everyday, but surely teaching A-Levels is challenging enough. They surely do as much work as a secondary school teacher across a year.
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Post by Kentucky Kid on Apr 26, 2008 20:28:45 GMT -1
MORE STRIKES I SAY NEVER HAD SO MUCH FUN AT SCHOOL
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Post by PASTIE on Apr 26, 2008 22:09:42 GMT -1
I'm in a non-striking union.. mind you my union reps at work are naff. One of the girls was having a problem and she phoned the ones in the Trust and they didn't even get back to her so someone from Union HQ in Exeter had to come down, I rang them once in the Trust and they didn't even get back to me either - crap! Down to the rest of the public sector to rally round to support the nurses. Extraordinary if it turns out to be the teachers of all people to be leading the way!
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Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Apr 26, 2008 23:43:21 GMT -1
deaf/illiterate too ;D
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Post by arover on May 7, 2008 9:32:46 GMT -1
Doing so wasn't a decision that came easily but having attended my local strike rally attended by literally hundreds of other teachers I felt much better about it. The news would have you believe that the likes of me were banging on about getting a pay rise despite being pretty well paid for this area. I hope that people realised that this wasn't the case but that this was the teachers joining in with demands that public sector workers should not have to face effective pay cuts and a drop in standard of living relative to inflation and the cost of living. I hope people realise that we know that pretty much everybody is facing up to similar circumstances but that, like many other people, we object to the money that the government finds to fund other more controversial policies that, for the sake of avoiding going off topic, will remain nameless. I personally thought that whilst the causes being argued today were just, a strike was likely to be a public relations disaster and it may yet prove to be so. I favoured a strike action only in conjunction with other similar professional organisations like Unison so that we were not left exposed and apparently out on a limb. Hopefully this will be the case next time. However, the impressive thing I witnessed today was teachers not so much striking for themselves but for the next generation of would be teachers facing up to pay levels descending to below the interest rates on even their increasingly hefty student loans and the damage that this will do in terms of the quality of provision for children who have not even started school yet. Maybe that is where we are doomed to failure, demanding that governments plan for the long term benefits of the society they are responsible for rather than the short term tracks covering of their own election vulnerable backsides. I post it here only with interest as a random and unscientific sample of other people's attitudes towards today's strike... Strike on brother I'm right behind you. Used to indulge in the teaching thing myself and know exactly what it's like. Glad to be out of it.
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Post by PASTIE on May 7, 2008 21:28:16 GMT -1
Doing so wasn't a decision that came easily but having attended my local strike rally attended by literally hundreds of other teachers I felt much better about it. The news would have you believe that the likes of me were banging on about getting a pay rise despite being pretty well paid for this area. I hope that people realised that this wasn't the case but that this was the teachers joining in with demands that public sector workers should not have to face effective pay cuts and a drop in standard of living relative to inflation and the cost of living. I hope people realise that we know that pretty much everybody is facing up to similar circumstances but that, like many other people, we object to the money that the government finds to fund other more controversial policies that, for the sake of avoiding going off topic, will remain nameless. I personally thought that whilst the causes being argued today were just, a strike was likely to be a public relations disaster and it may yet prove to be so. I favoured a strike action only in conjunction with other similar professional organisations like Unison so that we were not left exposed and apparently out on a limb. Hopefully this will be the case next time. However, the impressive thing I witnessed today was teachers not so much striking for themselves but for the next generation of would be teachers facing up to pay levels descending to below the interest rates on even their increasingly hefty student loans and the damage that this will do in terms of the quality of provision for children who have not even started school yet. Maybe that is where we are doomed to failure, demanding that governments plan for the long term benefits of the society they are responsible for rather than the short term tracks covering of their own election vulnerable backsides. I post it here only with interest as a random and unscientific sample of other people's attitudes towards today's strike... Strike on brother I'm right behind you. Used to indulge in the teaching thing myself and know exactly what it's like. Glad to be out of it. Welcome to the boards! Sounds like an interesting tale worth telling?
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Post by Mrs H on May 8, 2008 5:41:24 GMT -1
That was our first idea, to call in sick, but we thought with the circumstances we were in (it was because of my holiday entitlement) the school would understand. Anyway as you say next time its call in sick, i only let my fingers get burnt once. Like I said, crazy. We encourage lies. What roll models we are! You only get a B for that post Pastie as you spelt Roles wrong. Must do better
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Post by addicted2venos on May 8, 2008 6:29:17 GMT -1
Like I said, crazy. We encourage lies. What roll models we are! You only get a B for that post Pastie as you spelt Roles wrong. Must do better ......... well it's all about being in bread, in that part of the world (..... have I made a typo??) !!
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Post by PASTIE on May 8, 2008 20:56:22 GMT -1
Like I said, crazy. We encourage lies. What roll models we are! You only get a B for that post Pastie as you spelt Roles wrong. Must do better Damn Not sure whether to drink more or less before coming on here... Actually, if you could see me zip down a hill you'd see what a fantastic roll model I truly am
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