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Post by ESR on Mar 26, 2007 13:27:16 GMT -1
GERMANY 1 ENGLAND 5 , ARGENTINA 0 ENGLAND 1 germany ok, but sod rite off with the argentina one.......we were out played and out classed all match and it was more down to luck than passion or pride that we won You beat me to it, the Argies battered us and we won by a penalty (which we actually did score) but we beat a poor Argentina side that were knocked out in the first round even though they outclassed us
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Post by Giar on Mar 26, 2007 13:36:45 GMT -1
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Post by Neko Bazu on Mar 26, 2007 13:58:27 GMT -1
To be fair, although I was young, I thought we looked pretty good under Venables. We certainly looked like we actually wanted to win; passes went in the right place, we actually passed and attacked etc. Gazza and Shearer aside, I don't think any of those players then (that I can remember) would have a sniff at the squad now, but which team do I think would win if they went head to head?
Hands-down, Venables would've beaten Smiley.
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Post by Giar on Mar 26, 2007 14:05:57 GMT -1
my thinking too neko, might be a case of the old rose tinted glasses but what the hey
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Post by 3spireswhite on Mar 27, 2007 11:49:19 GMT -1
You seem to be missng the point , that Venables is no 2 in this current England setup . I am sure that the 3-5-2 which failed so badly when we played in Croatia was his idea , and i am sure that he had a huge influence on how we played against Israel .
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Post by Giar on Mar 27, 2007 12:00:30 GMT -1
lol, nah mate as even the press have started to pick up on now as well its clear to see that terry has been having less and less influence as time has gone on. you might be rite about the 3-5-2, but at least he had the balls to suggest something/Anything different.........instead of just making the same mistakes as the people before him
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Post by Giar on Mar 27, 2007 12:03:10 GMT -1
also........how are you placing the blame for this at venables feet, when at the end of the day he is the "number 2" he doesnt get the final call on ANYTHING so shouldnt it be more down to who IS in charge?
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Post by 3spireswhite on Mar 30, 2007 13:11:30 GMT -1
I am not putting all the blame on Venables i agree with everyone who is critisising McClaren and he is the No 1 afterall . All the critisism has been given to McClaren and i was just looking at things from a different angle , rather than asking the same question that everyone else is asking . It has got 27 replies so it has got people talking and that is what this is all about .
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Post by Stan on Mar 30, 2007 13:12:55 GMT -1
I am not putting all the blame on Venables i agree with everyone who is critisising McClaren and he is the No 1 afterall . All the critisism has been given to McClaren and i was just looking at things from a different angle , rather than asking the same question that everyone else is asking . It has got 27 replies so it has got people talking and that is what this is all about . I thought it was all about anal dwelling butt monkeys...? (thanks cav!)
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