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Post by thales on Dec 11, 2007 9:11:34 GMT -1
Llywelyn the Last died in 1282, wales last native prince!
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Post by HURLOCK on Dec 11, 2007 9:12:08 GMT -1
did he shag sheep
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Dec 11, 2007 9:14:52 GMT -1
thats how he died...........the sheep didnt push back hard enough and over the cliff they went ;D |
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Post by thales on Dec 11, 2007 9:16:01 GMT -1
no, he fought english men  |
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Post by Neko Bazu on Dec 11, 2007 9:21:29 GMT -1
no, he fought english men Yeah, a lot of people seem to have died of that over the years... |
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Dec 11, 2007 9:22:40 GMT -1
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Post by Dr LuKas on Dec 11, 2007 9:28:28 GMT -1
no, he fought english men Yeah, a lot of people seem to have died of that over the years... Not Floyd Mayweather though |
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Post by thales on Dec 11, 2007 9:32:14 GMT -1
Yeah, a lot of people seem to have died of that over the years... Not Floyd Mayweather though LOL lucas ;D |
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Post by jh1980 on Dec 11, 2007 10:28:50 GMT -1
What you have to understand about medieval Wales at the time of the English invasions, is that it was not a unified country but had various regional Princes, Llewellyn ap Gruffydd was Prince of Gwynedd - the North-Western part. Who knows what would have happened if his plans to unify Wales had come to fruition. The article CYS has posted is interesting, the whole De Montfort link... Is this the anniversary of his death Eoin?  |
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Dec 11, 2007 10:33:49 GMT -1
gotta say i found it interesting, I know quite a bit about our history, but that was all new to me
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Post by jh1980 on Dec 11, 2007 10:38:31 GMT -1
gotta say i found it interesting, I know quite a bit about our history, but that was all new to me For some reason Welsh History isn't a focus of national attention... one hates to use words like "conspiracy" ;D  It is interesting stuff, I remember that the De Montforts were a thorn in the side of the English crown but had no idea they had united with Welsh insurrectionaries as well. The Longbowmen of Agincourt were largely Welsh too, we had good archers  |
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Post by HURLOCK on Dec 11, 2007 10:40:11 GMT -1
History is always interesting, so in some respects Wales was never unifed. Oh the errors of your ancesctors Julian. All down to power and money i dare say!"
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Dec 11, 2007 10:42:59 GMT -1
when i was at school i learnt a lot of English history, all the kings and queens, medieval, tudor, and all the rest. Just about touched on modern history with WW1 + 11.
Looking at curricculums today they dont seem to learn any ancient history just modern.
But Welsh history like you say isnt taught much
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Post by jh1980 on Dec 11, 2007 10:47:12 GMT -1
Yes I didn't really study WW1 and WW2 - but I was probably about the last. British History 1066-1547 or so I know well though, and then 1780s-1870s (British & European) at A-level. Hurls - indeed, tis a tragedy. Still we knocked those French knights off their prancing horses with our longbows! ;D |
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Post by HURLOCK on Dec 11, 2007 10:51:13 GMT -1
Hurls - indeed, tis a tragedy. Still we knocked those French knights off their prancing horses with our longbows! ;D Well thats as maybe, still we moved on somewhat mate. Wales is a hamlet compared to France |
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Post by jh1980 on Dec 11, 2007 10:54:45 GMT -1
Hurls - indeed, tis a tragedy. Still we knocked those French knights off their prancing horses with our longbows! ;D Well thats as maybe, still we moved on somewhat mate. Wales is a hamlet compared to France Indeed, if Henry V had been a bit more careful to survive a few more years, France would be the laughing stock of the UK! Our "back yard" as it were! |
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Post by ArgyleNeil on Dec 11, 2007 10:56:11 GMT -1
Are the flag waving surrender monkeys not already then?
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Post by Neko Bazu on Dec 11, 2007 10:57:24 GMT -1
Are the flag waving surrender monkeys not already then? Always good for a laugh, certainly... |
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Post by HURLOCK on Dec 11, 2007 10:57:52 GMT -1
Well thats as maybe, still we moved on somewhat mate. Wales is a hamlet compared to France Indeed, if Henry V had been a bit more careful to survive a few more years, France would be the laughing stock of the UK! Our "back yard" as it were! Another place for labour to mismanage eh Jules |
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Post by jh1980 on Dec 11, 2007 11:00:12 GMT -1
Another place for labour to mismanage eh Jules Haha, Touché Hurls! ;D But I think people agree with me, if there's one thing worse than being Welsh... it's being French!  |
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