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Post by jh1980 on Oct 31, 2007 12:43:26 GMT -1
I realise I seem to be becoming more right wing already since my socialist sixth form days, but the truth is every city has a class who can live a more fun and comfortable life there, and whether it's fair or not, if you can afford to join it and have a cool life, why not? I see the great times my high flying sisters have, I don't really see what's wrong with joining the party if I'm successful enough. We won't agree URZ, if I thought that money was the most important thing in life, I wouldn't do what I do. Furthermore the "high flying city elite" include people I know well. They work a minimum 12 hour day, get called up by bosses during evenings and weekends, lord knows there's a price for their healthy bank balances.
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Post by officergroyman on Oct 31, 2007 12:43:28 GMT -1
Where is Nottingham? exactly where it should be OFF the list!!!
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Post by Dr LuKas on Oct 31, 2007 12:47:23 GMT -1
I realise I seem to be becoming more right wing already since my socialist sixth form days, but the truth is every city has a class who can live a more fun and comfortable life there, and whether it's fair or not, if you can afford to join it and have a cool life, why not? I see the great times my high flying sisters have, I don't really see what's wrong with joining the party if I'm successful enough. We won't agree URZ, if I thought that money was the most important thing in life, I wouldn't do what I do. Furthermore the "high flying city elite" include people I know well. They work a minimum 12 hour day, get called up by bosses during evenings and weekends, lord knows there's a price for their healthy bank balances. Dieing early.
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Post by jh1980 on Oct 31, 2007 12:48:50 GMT -1
It's certainly not jealousy. I've already said that I love London I just get a bit sick of the assumption that because we live in the north we aren't cultured, we don't earn money, the south keeps us with their taxes, we aren't educated and bascially inferior to the south. I don't think many intelligent people think that for real darlin' It is true though that the economic success of the UK is almost entirely dependent on Heathrow Airport and the City of London with its financial institutions. Hence Crossrail, basically. among other things. As I said before - it's not good for Britain that we're in that position.
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Post by urrzzzzzzzzzz on Oct 31, 2007 12:49:05 GMT -1
I realise I seem to be becoming more right wing already since my socialist sixth form days, but the truth is every city has a class who can live a more fun and comfortable life there, and whether it's fair or not, if you can afford to join it and have a cool life, why not? I see the great times my high flying sisters have, I don't really see what's wrong with joining the party if I'm successful enough. We won't agree URZ, if I thought that money was the most important thing in life, I wouldn't do what I do. Furthermore the "high flying city elite" include people I know well. They work a minimum 12 hour day, get called up by bosses during evenings and weekends, lord knows there's a price for their healthy bank balances. Naturally I would rather have a job that I don't wake up dreading every day which doesn't keep me in till 11pm, that is more important than money to me. Likewise potential opportunities to work abroad is a huge incentive to me. To be honest whilst I was single and in my 20s I wouldn't have a problem with staying in till 8pm or so then going out a drink with colleagues after or some lifestyle like that, clearly if I had a family that wouldn't be so much the case. But I've seen from people I know that having a job you enjoy with humane hours isn't mutually exclusive with being well paid. I'll admit it is a tall ambitious order, but truth be told it's up to me. If I can leave Leeds with a good Economics degree with a year's placement in the middle, I should be well set up to hopefully end up somewhere that suits my ambitions. Just the 'small' issue that at this moment in time I don't have a clue what that job is.
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Post by Dr LuKas on Oct 31, 2007 12:50:59 GMT -1
We won't agree URZ, if I thought that money was the most important thing in life, I wouldn't do what I do. Furthermore the "high flying city elite" include people I know well. They work a minimum 12 hour day, get called up by bosses during evenings and weekends, lord knows there's a price for their healthy bank balances. Naturally I would rather have a job that I don't wake up dreading every day which doesn't keep me in till 11pm, that is more important than money to me. Likewise potential opportunities to work abroad is a huge incentive to me. To be honest whilst I was single and in my 20s I wouldn't have a problem with staying in till 8pm or so then going out a drink with colleagues after or some lifestyle like that, clearly if I had a family that wouldn't be so much the case. But I've seen from people I know that having a job you know with humane hours isn't mutually exclusive with being well paid. I'll admit it is a tall ambitious order, but truth be told it's up to me. If I can leave Leeds with a good Economics degree with a year's placement in the middle, I should be well set up to hopefully end up somewhere that suits my ambitions. Just the 'small' issue that at this moment in time I don't have a clue what that job is. Vice Funkateer for NASA?
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Post by urrzzzzzzzzzz on Oct 31, 2007 12:51:29 GMT -1
Naturally I would rather have a job that I don't wake up dreading every day which doesn't keep me in till 11pm, that is more important than money to me. Likewise potential opportunities to work abroad is a huge incentive to me. To be honest whilst I was single and in my 20s I wouldn't have a problem with staying in till 8pm or so then going out a drink with colleagues after or some lifestyle like that, clearly if I had a family that wouldn't be so much the case. But I've seen from people I know that having a job you know with humane hours isn't mutually exclusive with being well paid. I'll admit it is a tall ambitious order, but truth be told it's up to me. If I can leave Leeds with a good Economics degree with a year's placement in the middle, I should be well set up to hopefully end up somewhere that suits my ambitions. Just the 'small' issue that at this moment in time I don't have a clue what that job is. Vice Funkateer for NASA? Hell yeah!!
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Post by jh1980 on Oct 31, 2007 12:51:44 GMT -1
Dieing early. Well... I hope not in my friends' cases, but certainly burning out yeah!
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Post by urrzzzzzzzzzz on Oct 31, 2007 12:54:19 GMT -1
And also don't think I'm talking about over 100k a year to live this lifestyle, not even 50k. My sister used to get by on about 25k, think now it's more like 35k although she never tells us, it's just a guess as the civil service fast stream rises pretty steeply and she's coming up to 3 or 4 years now. It's not like I'm talking millions or even hundreds of thousands.
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Post by Dr LuKas on Oct 31, 2007 12:55:42 GMT -1
Dieing early. Well... I hope not in my friends' cases, but certainly burning out yeah! I'd rather set myself on fire than do that shit really. I mean money isn't the end of the world surely, your well being is the most important thing, those people need to reassess.
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Post by jh1980 on Oct 31, 2007 12:56:05 GMT -1
Naturally I would rather have a job that I don't wake up dreading every day which doesn't keep me in till 11pm, that is more important than money to me. Likewise potential opportunities to work abroad is a huge incentive to me. To be honest whilst I was single and in my 20s I wouldn't have a problem with staying in till 8pm or so then going out a drink with colleagues after or some lifestyle like that, clearly if I had a family that wouldn't be so much the case. But I've seen from people I know that having a job you enjoy with humane hours isn't mutually exclusive with being well paid. I'll admit it is a tall ambitious order, but truth be told it's up to me. If I can leave Leeds with a good Economics degree with a year's placement in the middle, I should be well set up to hopefully end up somewhere that suits my ambitions. Just the 'small' issue that at this moment in time I don't have a clue what that job is. Leeds University, Economics Degree? Yeah you probably have a *reasonable* chance of one of those "dream jobs." I wouldn't get over-excited though... no offence.
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Post by urrzzzzzzzzzz on Oct 31, 2007 12:58:19 GMT -1
Well if I didn't have high ambitions my chance would be considerably smaller than it is now.
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Post by HURLOCK on Oct 31, 2007 12:58:52 GMT -1
Go for it lad, I love it when students finally smell the coffee and come to the conclusion that being a socialist is RUBBISH
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Post by jh1980 on Oct 31, 2007 12:59:24 GMT -1
And also don't think I'm talking about over 100k a year to live this lifestyle, not even 50k. My sister used to get by on about 25k, think now it's more like 35k although she never tells us, it's just a guess as the civil service fast stream rises pretty steeply and she's coming up to 3 or 4 years now. It's not like I'm talking millions or even hundreds of thousands. She's a fast-streamer, interesting. They don't earn huge amounts fella, I know several of them, but they do okay. You're right that the Civil Service don't go overboard on working hard either. Incidentally a mate of mine is with the DWP in Sheffield, fast-streamer and Economist like yourself, he's certainly doing quite well by those standards, fair play.
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Post by Arnold on Oct 31, 2007 13:00:15 GMT -1
London. The rest are up north and therefore shite! Cav? I don't venture up north where the streets are not paved with gold and they don't sell decent cocktails!
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Post by jh1980 on Oct 31, 2007 13:01:15 GMT -1
I'd rather set myself on fire than do that shit really. I mean money isn't the end of the world surely, your well being is the most important thing, those people need to reassess. I can see you being a pro stuntman...! Indeed, my level-headed brother-in-funk! But I guess there's always a play-off, to coin a phrase!
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Post by jh1980 on Oct 31, 2007 13:02:25 GMT -1
Go for it lad, I love it when students finally smell the coffee and come to the conclusion that being a socialist is RUBBISH Hurls is a corpulent feline! ;D
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Post by HURLOCK on Oct 31, 2007 13:04:15 GMT -1
I don't venture up north where the streets are not paved with gold and they don't sell decent cocktails! cocktail = firebomb in the north!
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Post by urrzzzzzzzzzz on Oct 31, 2007 13:04:45 GMT -1
And also don't think I'm talking about over 100k a year to live this lifestyle, not even 50k. My sister used to get by on about 25k, think now it's more like 35k although she never tells us, it's just a guess as the civil service fast stream rises pretty steeply and she's coming up to 3 or 4 years now. It's not like I'm talking millions or even hundreds of thousands. She's a fast-streamer, interesting. They don't earn huge amounts fella, I know several of them, but they do okay. You're right that the Civil Service don't go overboard on working hard either. Incidentally a mate of mine is with the DWP in Sheffield, fast-streamer and Economist like yourself, he's certainly doing quite well by those standards, fair play. You're right, they don't earn huge amounts, but they earn enough to have an enjoyable comfortable life without looking over their shoulder too much. What more could you ask for? Sorry if I set the wrong impression earlier and implied I was trying to be some executive director for Amstrad or a stockbroker or something.
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Post by jh1980 on Oct 31, 2007 13:04:52 GMT -1
I don't venture up north where the streets are not paved with gold and they don't sell decent cocktails! The streets of London are paved with chewing-gum though fella, you know this!
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