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Post by HGO on Jul 17, 2008 8:50:44 GMT -1
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Post by Mrs H on Jul 17, 2008 9:19:40 GMT -1
Why don't the Fabian Society take their middle class, Daily Mail values and insert them in their own rectums. Stop wasting money on pointless think tanks when some of these 'Chavs' can't even afford 20 Benson. ;D
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Post by Neko Bazu on Jul 17, 2008 10:04:31 GMT -1
Finally, someone in the media actually uses the word correctly  Fuck's sake, I probably count as working class, and I still use the word - it's not a class-ist expression, it's a term used to describe a particular type of low-life scum! |
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Post by Mrs H on Jul 17, 2008 10:07:26 GMT -1
I'd describe you as 'Elfin' Neko ;D
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Post by Neko Bazu on Jul 17, 2008 10:52:20 GMT -1
I'd describe you as 'Elfin' Neko ;D Is that as in spritely, cheerful and charmingly mischievous, or small, scrawny and effeminate? ;D Incidentally, the word 'Elfin' reminded me of the anime series Elfin Lied - haven't seen it, but I've heard good things about it. I then did a google image search for 'Elfin' and what was the third picture, but a scene from Elfin Lied!  I wonder if 'Elfin' is meant to be ironic, in that instance?  |
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Post by CHOPPER READ on Jul 17, 2008 10:54:28 GMT -1
I'd describe you as 'Elfin' Neko ;D Is that as in spritely, cheerful and charmingly mischievous, or small, scrawny and effeminate? ;D Incidentally, the word 'Elfin' reminded me of the anime series Elfin Lied - haven't seen it, but I've heard good things about it. I then did a google image search for 'Elfin' and what was the third picture, but a scene from Elfin Lied! I wonder if 'Elfin' is meant to be ironic, in that instance? Weirdo!  |
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Post by Neko Bazu on Jul 17, 2008 10:58:52 GMT -1
Is that as in spritely, cheerful and charmingly mischievous, or small, scrawny and effeminate? ;D Incidentally, the word 'Elfin' reminded me of the anime series Elfin Lied - haven't seen it, but I've heard good things about it. I then did a google image search for 'Elfin' and what was the third picture, but a scene from Elfin Lied! I wonder if 'Elfin' is meant to be ironic, in that instance? Weirdo! I think we established that some time before my hotseat stint |
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Post by Travis on Jul 17, 2008 11:13:01 GMT -1
Surely it's preferable to have a 'shorthand substitute' term for the phrase "Horrible little scummy anit-social fuckwit"? |
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Post by CHOPPER READ on Jul 17, 2008 11:21:41 GMT -1
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Post by Travis on Jul 17, 2008 11:25:26 GMT -1
LOL! Elizabeth Duke has been formally recognised! ;D
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Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Jul 17, 2008 12:43:44 GMT -1
"The widely-used term is, according to the dictionaries, derogatory slang for a young person of low social status, often wearing designer sportswear."
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i'd disagree with that..... there are plenty of rich chavs
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Post by URRZZZ!!! on Jul 18, 2008 10:28:09 GMT -1
"This is middle class hatred of the white working class, pure and simple"
Fabian Society's Tom Hampson
I can 100% promise you it isn't. My friends in Essex are largely from the white working class and it's possibly the group of mates where I've been happiest, certainly more so that with other middle class kids in Reading. I use the word chav to describe an over aggressive person dressed in an intimidating way who is an anti social presence on the streets or in a park. They're often in groups.
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Post by Mrs H on Jul 18, 2008 12:40:44 GMT -1
Both of these are Working class only one is a chav.   I'm sick of middle class tossers getting up on their high horse about their version of 'doing good' for the little people. |
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Post by jh1980 on Jul 21, 2008 12:52:00 GMT -1
What complete nonsense!! Though I agree with H's post above, in a pleasing traditional change of pace... despite very possibly being a "middle class tosser" |
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Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Jul 21, 2008 13:57:39 GMT -1
i'd like to point out most people are middle class, they just think they're working class...  |
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Post by jh1980 on Jul 21, 2008 14:15:28 GMT -1
i'd like to point out most people are middle class, they just think they're working class... Or possibly the other way round... though like I give a damn. Class was never meant to be about your material circumstances though Mort... it was a bit more fundamental than that. And we all know where hope lies (according to that Marx chappie) |
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Post by HURLOCK on Jul 21, 2008 14:33:25 GMT -1
Thing is these people behave in such a maner that makes them social outcasts, they deserve contempt.
Trisha watching work shy pieces of shit that they are!
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Post by jh1980 on Jul 21, 2008 14:40:49 GMT -1
Thing is these people behave in such a maner that makes them social outcasts, they deserve contempt. Trisha watching work shy pieces of shit that they are!  |
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Post by CHOPPER READ on Jul 21, 2008 17:01:08 GMT -1
I always find those claiming to be middle class are quite often the top end of working class with false ideas of grandeur. Or maybe i should get out of the local Working Mens' Club more often and open my eyes to what Labour have done for my ilk.
Question,if you are born into working class do you forever remain there?
John Hurt and Paul Burrell,both born into poor working class families in deprived areas of Derbyshire. Both now quite well off.
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Post by URRZZZ!!! on Jul 21, 2008 17:08:49 GMT -1
I can't be arsed to enter a class debate, it's to do with more than just money, it's a number of things. For me lots of public school people I've met who I get along with have referred to themselves as middle class which very much confuses me. I always thought I was middle class yet I'm not as rich or well spoken as they are or things like that. I'd still say I'm middle class though, although I sometimes try and act more working class just to make everyone know my education was free (very petty and pointless I know, but there you go.)
Back to the original topic, if the name chav is banned it will only get worse. Words such as scum and filth will come into circulation.
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Forever without exception. x
Fuck's sake, I probably count as working class, and I still use the word - it's not a class-ist expression, it's a term used to describe a particular type of low-life scum!
