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Post by The Lucky C on Aug 30, 2007 21:19:26 GMT -1
10 years on apparently. Do you care? Or are you sick of the weekly glossy pullouts in the express?
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Post by CHOPPER READ on Aug 30, 2007 21:22:23 GMT -1
They do fuck all to remember my grandad and he was a top chap!!!
I think Prince Phil is ace,i have met him and he makes me laugh.
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Post by weallloveleeds on Aug 30, 2007 21:28:51 GMT -1
I think it's disgraceful that it's still an issue; imagine what William and Harry think with their mum constantly being discussed in the media. All those that have prolonged the saga ought to be ashamed. Let the issue, and her rest. Wouldn't mind the day off though
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Post by GeoFox on Aug 31, 2007 15:58:17 GMT -1
Of course its a worthy day to remember Princess Diana...she was of course a remarkable human being. And she should be remembered on days like this. 10 years afterall.
What I don't like, just like you guys is the almost weekly conspiracy and dragging up stories when there aren't any to be had in the Express and to a lesser extent the Mail.
But by all means she should be remembered.
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Aug 31, 2007 16:02:29 GMT -1
FFS let it rest..................but a national Holiday would be nice ;D
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Post by ovechkin8 on Aug 31, 2007 19:18:27 GMT -1
Exactly why is she a remarkable human being ?
Is it because she was a royal family member ? Is it not worth remembering the brave lads & lasses who arrive in Brize Norton in coffins or those now disabled serving their country because they are the serfs ?
She didn't make a scientific discovery, compose a great symphony , write a great work of literature , design a fantastic building or rescue somebodys life.
She was a media hungry slapper who Charles didnt even want to marry.
At least Prince Phillip for all of his gaffes served this country in the Royal Navy on a K class destroyer in the Med , abloody difficult & dangerous job considering the Axis air power there.
What a waste of money on that needless fountain.Better spent at St.Dunstans or a hospice or something worthy.
This deification like that of the terrorist Mandela by the right on lefties is appalling.
I was embarassed by the hysteria at her death by many who wouldn't even shed a tear over a close relatives death.
If you're ever questioning your self worth, or even your humanity, watch the footage of the retards stood outside Kensington Palace and Buck House in the week after the slapper had her last wallbanger. Hugely edifying stuff.
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Post by ITFC Dudette6 on Aug 31, 2007 20:13:22 GMT -1
I was tempted by the "Prince Philip, in a Tunnel, with a candlestick?" just because it made me giggle. But of course, I don't own Harrods, so I wouldn't vote that option.
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Post by The Lucky C on Aug 31, 2007 20:34:15 GMT -1
I was tempted by the "Prince Philip, in a Tunnel, with a candlestick?" just because it made me giggle. But of course, I don't own Harrods, so I wouldn't vote that option. Tomorrow's headline in the Express. I swear Mohammed Fayed (not Al Fayed - he's not entitled to that name) owns that paper - explains why Fulham never have any money.
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Post by ITFC Dudette6 on Aug 31, 2007 21:13:24 GMT -1
I was tempted by the "Prince Philip, in a Tunnel, with a candlestick?" just because it made me giggle. But of course, I don't own Harrods, so I wouldn't vote that option. Tomorrow's headline in the Express. I swear Mohammed Fayed (not Al Fayed - he's not entitled to that name) owns that paper - explains why Fulham never have any money. Or he's spending it on God-awful statues...
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Post by GeoFox on Aug 31, 2007 21:38:19 GMT -1
Exactly why is she a remarkable human being ? She dedicated her life to helping people in a less fortunate position than herself. She used her privileged position to help advance that cause, thats why. A fountain costs nigh on bugger all in the scheme of things, its not an argument about fungibility. If people want to remember her, for whatever reason, let them.
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Post by ovechkin8 on Sept 2, 2007 17:28:18 GMT -1
How do you mean Foxy? By spending thousands of pound a week on dresses out of the public purse which could have gone to charity ?
There are millions of people around this country who do remarkable work in all sorts of voluntary organizations & others who make a hige financial contribution out of proportion to their salaries , than some ignorami like Bono do but don't get rewarded with the process of godhood because they are not in the public eye.
To be frank she was a publicity whore amongst other things.
And three million pounds on a fountain ? There are hundreds of far more worthwhilE things to spend on of far more use & benefit to everyone.
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Post by GeoFox on Sept 2, 2007 17:36:43 GMT -1
How do you mean Foxy? By spending thousands of pound a week on dresses out of the public purse which could have gone to charity ? There are millions of people around this country who do remarkable work in all sorts of voluntary organizations & others who make a hige financial contribution out of proportion to their salaries , than some ignorami like Bono do but don't get rewarded with the process of godhood because they are not in the public eye. To be frank she was a publicity whore amongst other things. And three million pounds on a fountain ? There are hundreds of far more worthwhilE things to spend on of far more use & benefit to everyone. I'm not arguing the point that the money could be put to more beneficial use. Its true that there are a lot of good people in the world whose deeds go unrecognised. But thats just the way of life and happens all the time in all circles of life. But that doesn't make her loss any worse. Fact is she did do a lot for disadvantaged people in the UK and abroad...and obviously bringing the plight of such people into the media because of her position. I don't necessarily buy that people have to be poor and living a certain lifestyle to be a good person. And because of what she did, the world is slightly worse off without her (as it would be if those other people you mentioned died early). She was the mother of 2 heirs to the throne, came from a reasonably normal background and died. I don't see the harm in the fountain...its no different to statues of long dead but great football players outside stadiums.
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Post by The Lucky C on Sept 2, 2007 18:07:46 GMT -1
Normal background? She was born into the aristocracy, the daughter of an earl! Yes, she did bring the plight of AIDS and landmines into the public eye. But flying first class to a destination, spending an hour on a photoshoot then flying back does not fall into my description of 'charity work'. There are people who spend much more time and effort who go unnoticed, as Ovechkin said. My problem isn't so much the memorial service - you'd expect that from a grieving family. My problem is the constant media circus, particularly from those sections of the media that absolutely hated her when she was alive! My problem comes from people showing the same level of devotion last seen from the followers of the heavens gate cult before they shed their human 'containers' and went off to follow a comet. My problem comes from nausea-inducing tributes that plaster the mass media. My problem comes from people who travel the length and bredth of the country to hero-worship a dead rich girl who most probably wouldn't have given them the time of day. Meanwhile they rush along making conspiracies about how she died in an effort to fill the pathetic blank void that is their lives, when it's plainly obvious that it's the lack of a seatbelt and a pisshead driver that made her worm food! Words cannot describe how much better I feel after that rant.
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Post by PASTIE on Sept 2, 2007 18:12:25 GMT -1
Exactly why is she a remarkable human being ? Is it because she was a royal family member ? Is it not worth remembering the brave lads & lasses who arrive in Brize Norton in coffins or those now disabled serving their country because they are the serfs ? She didn't make a scientific discovery, compose a great symphony , write a great work of literature , design a fantastic building or rescue somebodys life. She was a media hungry slapper who Charles didnt even want to marry. At least Prince Phillip for all of his gaffes served this country in the Royal Navy on a K class destroyer in the Med , abloody difficult & dangerous job considering the Axis air power there. What a waste of money on that needless fountain.Better spent at St.Dunstans or a hospice or something worthy. This deification like that of the terrorist Mandela by the right on lefties is appalling. I was embarassed by the hysteria at her death by many who wouldn't even shed a tear over a close relatives death. If you're ever questioning your self worth, or even your humanity, watch the footage of the retards stood outside Kensington Palace and Buck House in the week after the slapper had her last wallbanger. Hugely edifying stuff. Now here's a thread that started with promise but went horribly wrong, or am I missing the wind up. Terrorist? By whose definition? Give me Mandela, who operated within a context of violent oppression over the cynical bullying force of Bush/Blair any day of the week. Erect a statue of them and I'll deface it. Erect a statue of Mandela and I'll feel priveleged to have lived at a time that overlapped with his era and the stunning transformation that he achieved in the minds of a nation and the world watching. Erect a statue of Diana and I would wonder why we would need such an expensive clothes horse.
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Post by GeoFox on Sept 2, 2007 18:19:05 GMT -1
But bringing it into the public eye is important, and I don't think she just did that for the sake of it. And I think that flying first class has little or nothing to do with it. Some people always get credit for the work of others in whatever field. In politics, a government policy will be attributed to the PM or Minister when its the work of civil servants, MPs, and consultation for thousands of hours with various NGOs. Thats just life.
I don't like the media hysteria either but if people want to mourn her death let them. Expression of compassion by the British people isn't a bad thing, its 10 years since her death afterall. Shes a public figure and people feel closer to them. I was in Australia when Steve Irwin died. Didn't know him but I was sad as were millions of Australians. Other people probably do more work for reptiles, but he brought them into the public eye. His bubbly personality is probably what most people would miss but I wouldn't begrudge Australian people sadness over his death, nor the British of Princess Di.
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Post by PASTIE on Sept 2, 2007 18:56:54 GMT -1
But bringing it into the public eye is important, and I don't think she just did that for the sake of it. And I think that flying first class has little or nothing to do with it. Some people always get credit for the work of others in whatever field. In politics, a government policy will be attributed to the PM or Minister when its the work of civil servants, MPs, and consultation for thousands of hours with various NGOs. Thats just life. I don't like the media hysteria either but if people want to mourn her death let them. Expression of compassion by the British people isn't a bad thing, its 10 years since her death afterall. Shes a public figure and people feel closer to them. I was in Australia when Steve Irwin died. Didn't know him but I was sad as were millions of Australians. Other people probably do more work for reptiles, but he brought them into the public eye. His bubbly personality is probably what most people would miss but I wouldn't begrudge Australian people sadness over his death, nor the British of Princess Di. Fine. Anybody who dies in tragic circumstances before their time then there is a human loss. I do think that the comparison with Steve Irwin is valid as both were to me media hyped celebrities. I felt much more sense of loss when Tommy Cooper or Eric Moreambe died as they had a greater significance to me. In both cases, I still like looking back at what they did and enjoying it but I have no need for a media circus. I look back at Steve Irwin and Princess Diana and can support the principles of much of what they were skirting around, but resent the way that their personalities dominated it and their celebrity trivialised bigger issues. Both were reckless, and in both cases I cannot help but wonder if it were due to their ignorance.
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Post by HURLOCK on Sept 3, 2007 8:56:03 GMT -1
Whether you like it or not, she will always be remembered and the hysteria will never pass. So just deal with it, hopefully none of you buy the red tops so it's not that much of an issue.
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Post by Mrs H on Sept 3, 2007 10:16:41 GMT -1
If Diana had been alive today she would have disgraced herself to the extent that people would have disowned her.
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Post by HURLOCK on Sept 3, 2007 10:43:54 GMT -1
If Diana had been alive today she would have disgraced herself to the extent that people would have disowned her. you mean she'd have a brown baby like everyone else on the estate?
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Post by Mrs H on Sept 3, 2007 11:13:32 GMT -1
If Diana had been alive today she would have disgraced herself to the extent that people would have disowned her. you mean she'd have a brown baby like everyone else on the estate? Lol I'm sure the queen would have loved that.
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