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Post by Janner on Jun 30, 2007 19:04:06 GMT -1
is currently CRITICAL
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Post by gt on Jun 30, 2007 19:04:42 GMT -1
Just posted this on the Glasgow Airport thread
Weird seeing Brown come on when they announce the PM
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Post by Janner on Jun 30, 2007 19:06:52 GMT -1
Yeah. You expect the hand jerking of Mr Blair instead the quivering jaw of Gordon Brown
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Post by gt on Jun 30, 2007 19:44:31 GMT -1
They've now found a device at the Glasgow hospital where the suspect was taken
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Post by Janner on Jun 30, 2007 19:45:25 GMT -1
oh hell . Thanks for the update GT.
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Post by weallloveleeds on Jun 30, 2007 19:47:55 GMT -1
Is there any point in a terrorism level for civilians? Terrorism won't make any difference to civilains until it happens, and if people stop using public transport/airports out of fear, then surely the terrorists have won? I can understand maybe closing the tube for a day if there's a specific threat but not a blanket warning for the whole country, as it just needlessly scares people.
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Post by Janner on Jun 30, 2007 19:50:44 GMT -1
I suppose its to warn everybody that something is likely to happen or is more likely to happen at the moment after this little spate of attempts.
I for one am glad of it
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Post by gt on Jun 30, 2007 19:52:40 GMT -1
If nothing was said and something happened, people will be the first to say 'why weren't we warned' - I can't see the problem in it?
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Post by Janner on Jun 30, 2007 19:53:51 GMT -1
exactly GT. your on form tonight exalt coming your way
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Post by gt on Jun 30, 2007 19:54:29 GMT -1
Also it is arguable that acts of terror have taken place, whether or not the bombs go off is immaterial - they have been uncovered with a clear intent to instil fear into the general public
The government has to react to this, this is the natural and immediate response
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Post by Janner on Jun 30, 2007 19:56:01 GMT -1
again that is true
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Post by weallloveleeds on Jun 30, 2007 20:04:10 GMT -1
If nothing was said and something happened, people will be the first to say 'why weren't we warned' - I can't see the problem in it? But what difference does us moving up to critical have for the average civvy? It will still be 'business as usual' across the UK tommorrow. There is always a general threat to the UK due to our current role in the world, as most people will have realised. We are now being told that more attacks could be on the way, but what does the govt want us to do about it? I could understand having a warning level if each stage meant a temporary restriction on liberities, or extra luggage screenings/sniffer dogs at major transport terminus's, we all get drilled in what to do if there's an attack on our place of work or something similar (just examples, I realise they would be contentious measures). However, it sems pretty academic to me, other than the 'I told you so' insurance-policy approach you mention.
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Post by gt on Jun 30, 2007 20:08:41 GMT -1
Ok taking your point of view, if it's really so academic, then surely it's best to err on the side of caution
I stand by my view on this, they've done the right thing and I singularly fail to see where criticism can be levelled at them
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Post by weallloveleeds on Jun 30, 2007 20:12:08 GMT -1
Ok taking your point of view, if it's really so academic, then surely it's best to err on the side of caution I stand by my view on this, they've done the right thing and I singularly fail to see where criticism can be levelled at them I see a point of a general warning that an attack may be imminent, say from a minister or the MOD. But, I don't see the point of having a tiered structure, when each tier means nothing more than the last.
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Post by gt on Jun 30, 2007 20:14:12 GMT -1
I think we'll just agree to disagree on this point Steve mate - I hear what you're saying though
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Post by weallloveleeds on Jun 30, 2007 20:15:14 GMT -1
Yeah, I can't be arsed tbh!
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Post by PureOldGold on Jun 30, 2007 20:20:22 GMT -1
or maybe its a tactic to put fear into the public so they justify another illegal invasion, Iran?
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Post by weallloveleeds on Jun 30, 2007 20:26:42 GMT -1
...I've seen some people on a Leeds board say they thought the attacks were staged by Brown to get the public behind him early on, hence why the attacks were both unsuccessful
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Post by PureOldGold on Jun 30, 2007 20:30:52 GMT -1
...I've seen some people on a Leeds board say they thought the attacks were staged by Brown to get the public behind him early on, hence why the attacks were both unsuccessful Well that would not be a suprise to be honest, you can't trust this Labour government, the timing of these 'terror attacks' always seems to be around the time when support is needed for military action.
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Post by weallloveleeds on Jun 30, 2007 20:37:52 GMT -1
I agree you can't trust them, although that apply's to most politicians, but I very much doubt they'd put their own citizens in harm's way- imagine the storm (an understatement?) if it was leaked... I don't think they are that stupid, or desperate for support to consider that much of a risk!
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