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Post by Lollipop on Jun 29, 2007 20:09:36 GMT -1
The Smoking ban comes into force. Oooh!
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Post by gt on Jun 29, 2007 20:20:31 GMT -1
A lot of people will be happy I guess, and to a large extent I agree with it despite being an ex smoker (barring the odd lapse ) - I wouldn't want kids of mine to be in a smoky environment and the secondary health risks are not on really I just worry that the government will pick something else in years to come The funniest thing about the debate is the overwhelmingly sanctimonious reaction of certain sections of the anti smoking lobby, they really come across as quite twisted and weird IMO In summary, I can't vote because there is no option that covers it
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Post by weallloveleeds on Jun 29, 2007 20:22:44 GMT -1
Glad.
Why should I have to breathe in other peoples smoke? If people want to smoke themselves, they can do, but I shouldn't have to be affected by it. A right to fresh air. In my opinion it can only make nights out better, and a generally healthier population- come winter, I can't see many going out of a pub to stand in a bus shelter if its freezing and pissing it down. Could push people into giving up?
*Tin hat time*
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Post by PureOldGold on Jun 29, 2007 20:23:24 GMT -1
I'm well happy, during work in the staff canteen i can eat my food without having to put up with that smoke
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Post by Lollipop on Jun 29, 2007 20:23:25 GMT -1
A lot of people will be happy I guess, and to a large extent I agree with it despite being an ex smoker (barring the odd lapse ) - I wouldn't want kids of mine to be in a smoky environment and the secondary health risks are not on really I just worry that the government will pick something else in years to come The funniest thing about the debate is the overwhelmingly sanctimonious reaction of certain sections of the anti smoking lobby, they really come across as quite twisted and weird IMO In summary, I can't vote because there is no option that covers it Only had limited space otherwise I definitely would have included that option!
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Post by CHOPPER READ on Jun 29, 2007 20:23:49 GMT -1
I have never smoked and wish they would ban it all together.
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Post by Janner on Jun 29, 2007 20:24:16 GMT -1
I have also heard on the smoking area that all supermarkets can only sell cigarettes etc to only 18+
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Post by PureOldGold on Jun 29, 2007 20:25:53 GMT -1
I have also heard on the smoking area that all supermarkets can only sell cigarettes etc to only 18+ i thought it was 16+, i work in a supermarket
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Post by gt on Jun 29, 2007 20:26:31 GMT -1
Maybe the transient smokers (like I have been) who only smoke on the occasional night down the pub but otherwise I wouldn't count on it The opinions that worry me are those that say people must give up, period as it's a 'filthy habit'. etc etc I don't have any problem with the practise being moved out of public buildings etc but it's a dangerous game once we start telling people what to do in their own home etc I also resent the widely held belief by a lot of the anti smoking lobby that all smokers are inconsiderate to others by definition. Not so. Could push people into giving up?
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Post by Fizzy Bread on Jun 29, 2007 20:26:37 GMT -1
I can totally agree with both sides of this argument but it's unfair to ban it completely, like they have. I think designated smoking areas should be brought back to work places, and in pubs, have a place for smokers; I am meant to be quitting but I am not gonna appreciate being pushed outside for a cig when it's pissing it down, and this is summer for God sakes!!
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Post by PureOldGold on Jun 29, 2007 20:29:49 GMT -1
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Post by Roaster©®™ on Jun 29, 2007 20:32:42 GMT -1
When HM Govt. passed this legislation I assume they had the backing of the local Police Forces.
I live in a smal town (county town mind you) and not that it phases me but invariably a stroll up the high street on a Thursday, Friday, Saturday (and sometimes a Sunday) night involves stepping past some 'reet unsavoury characters' outside pubs and clubs.
I smoke - and don't feel threatened by pissed up yobs - but I think come Sunday how other people will feel when strolling through town, visiting MacDonalds or their cash points how they'll feel when there are dozens of pissed up youths stood outside their respective bars taking in a smoke.
Typically, on a night out I'll smoke 20-40 fags. That's a lot of trips outside. Where I live that means smoking outside the bar on the high street - due to local bye-laws consumption of alcohol is illegal on the street hence I'll sup my drink before having a ciggie. By my reckoning I'll be consuming 3 or 4 times my usual quantity on a night out - and I'll be well pissed by midnight when I head off for another smoke!
Not that I'll cause bother but what about the other smokers (and there's a lot)! Can see it now - a shitty smoochie comes on at the night-club (and there's loads of lads who ain't pulled cos they're pissed) spill onto the road for a ciggie. It's 1.30 - 2.00am they're ratted and bouncers decide they ani't coming back in....it'll be war.
And as I'm off out tomorrow night - do I have to extinguish my ciggies at midnight? If I light up at 12.10am am I breaking the law?
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Post by gt on Jun 29, 2007 20:33:15 GMT -1
It's 6am Sunday apparently Ro
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Post by Janner on Jun 29, 2007 20:34:37 GMT -1
I have also heard on the smoking area that all supermarkets can only sell cigarettes etc to only 18+ i thought it was 16+, i work in a supermarket Sorry I meant from sunday
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Post by weallloveleeds on Jun 29, 2007 20:34:38 GMT -1
I can totally agree with both sides of this argument but it's unfair to ban it completely, like they have. I think designated smoking areas should be brought back to work places, and in pubs, have a place for smokers; I am meant to be quitting but I am not gonna appreciate being pushed outside for a cig when it's pissing it down, and this is summer for God sakes!! It will never be banned completely. The Govt, gets far too much from taxing it to ever consider banning it. They can't really afford to ban it altogether.
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Post by gt on Jun 29, 2007 20:35:57 GMT -1
On a slight side note (sorry!) - can anyone think of any modern footballers who smoke? Apparently, there are a few, which surprised me!
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Post by gt on Jun 29, 2007 20:37:18 GMT -1
I know our team in playoffs played extra time like they'd just chugged a duty free case of uncapped Woodbines
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Post by Lollipop on Jun 29, 2007 20:37:33 GMT -1
On a slight side note (sorry!) - can anyone think of any modern footballers who smoke? Apparently, there are a few, which surprised me! Rob Hulse does. Robbie Blake too (I think)
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Post by weallloveleeds on Jun 29, 2007 20:39:40 GMT -1
Maybe the transient smokers (like I have been) who only smoke on the occasional night down the pub but otherwise I wouldn't count on it The opinions that worry me are those that say people must give up, period as it's a 'filthy habit'. etc etc I don't have any problem with the practise being moved out of public buildings etc but it's a dangerous game once we start telling people what to do in their own home etc I also resent the widely held belief by a lot of the anti smoking lobby that all smokers are inconsiderate to others by definition. Not so. Could push people into giving up? There's a grey line around the edge of any legislation, so it's difficult to know when it's going too far and when it's not. IMO people should be able to do pretty much whatever they want in their own home- smoke, Class C drugs, violent PC games, 'strange' porn etc, providing it doesn't harm anyone else who doesn't want to be. But in public, it should be the majority over the minority. More people don't smoke, so I think it's reasonable to suggest they shouldn't have to be subjected to it, especially since it's harmful.
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Post by miz on Jun 29, 2007 20:39:44 GMT -1
I can honestly say it don't bother me in the slightest. It will initially feel weird walking into a smoke free pub!
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