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Post by mortontheblade on Jul 6, 2007 9:48:05 GMT -1
since vikings are not a "people" as much pirates, they can't really becalled a civilisation
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Post by jh1980 on Jul 6, 2007 9:48:15 GMT -1
If it wasn't for rape many great civilisations would not have existed! Jeez the Vikings would have been fucked!!! Well actually they wouldn't have been fucked......well you know.........technically................................shall I leave? No, please stay, your discomfort is intensely amusing to me! ;D
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Post by Mrs H on Jul 6, 2007 9:50:52 GMT -1
I can't see it. Is it a fluffy little bunny?
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Post by C@V on Jul 6, 2007 9:51:02 GMT -1
Rome - lots of rape with olives and wine. British Empire - lots of rape that unearthed many a natutral resource and curry. Ottaman Empire - lots of rape and Turkish delight..........yuk!
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Post by jh1980 on Jul 6, 2007 9:53:44 GMT -1
Rome - lots of rape with olives and wine. British Empire - lots of rape that unearthed many a natutral resource and curry. Ottaman Empire - lots of rape and Turkish delight..........yuk! You really are hungry! The Romans were highly ordered people (apart from their entertainment!) and did not commit widespread rape (as it were! ) The famous "rape of the Sabine Women" is a mistranslation based on the original meaning of the verb "rapio" Damn I'm educated... ;D Turkish Delight is lovely!
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Post by C@V on Jul 6, 2007 9:57:06 GMT -1
I meant rap! The Romans were bad mo fo's in front of the mic!
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Post by mortontheblade on Jul 6, 2007 9:57:51 GMT -1
Tis true, if everyone hated everyone there would indeed be a lot more rape, like Cav suggested! you're suggesting that because people would wish to do each other harm they'd rape someone purely to cause them harm, eventhough in raping them, removing the element of lust, the only pleasure they'd gain in causing pain? - i disagree. i believe most rapists are driven by lust and in taking that away, as you'd hate to much to lust for someone, most people would simply kill the victim. many serial killers are infact driven my a pathological hatred of woman, Jack the Ripper was supposedly, and as such would match up as our "hated filled man", and they don't rape, but mutilate.
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Post by Mrs H on Jul 6, 2007 9:58:32 GMT -1
Rome - lots of rape with olives and wine. British Empire - lots of rape that unearthed many a natutral resource and curry. Ottaman Empire - lots of rape and Turkish delight..........yuk! You really are hungry! The Romans were highly ordered people (apart from their entertainment!) and did not commit widespread rape (as it were! ) The famous "rape of the Sabine Women" is a mistranslation based on the original meaning of the verb "rapio" Damn I'm educated... ;D Turkish Delight is lovely! Turkish Delight is manky.
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Post by jh1980 on Jul 6, 2007 9:59:15 GMT -1
I meant rap! The Romans were bad mo fo's in front of the mic! Layin' it down old skool, with two tressle-tables and an amphora... Nah doesn't work
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Post by C@V on Jul 6, 2007 10:00:27 GMT -1
I meant rap! The Romans were bad mo fo's in front of the mic! Layin' it down old skool, with two tressle-tables and an amphora... Nah doesn't work Don't knock The Ru-man-Clang until you hear them!
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Post by Mrs H on Jul 6, 2007 10:00:54 GMT -1
Can we stop talking about rape please?
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Post by mortontheblade on Jul 6, 2007 10:01:59 GMT -1
Rome - lots of rape with olives and wine. British Empire - lots of rape that unearthed many a natutral resource and curry. Ottaman Empire - lots of rape and Turkish delight..........yuk! Roman - tyrannic and barbarous empire. destroyer of more culture than it spread, whose lasting legacy to the west, is to distrust and fear all those not like us. British - the proto-type capitalist empire for all its evils and goods. Ottaman Empire - the rule of unbending fear...
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Post by jh1980 on Jul 6, 2007 10:03:14 GMT -1
you're suggesting that because people would wish to do each other harm they'd rape someone purely to cause them harm, even though in raping them, removing the element of lust, the only pleasure they'd gain in causing pain? - i disagree. i believe most rapists are driven by lust and in taking that away, as you'd hate to much to lust for someone, most people would simply kill the victim. I have no idea whether rapists enjoy their crimes, but I am saying, yes, that the enjoyment comes from causing pain as much as it does from any pleasure they get from the act. No, rape is a crime motivated by hate not by lust. To suggest otherwise is actually kinda dangerous.
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Post by jh1980 on Jul 6, 2007 10:04:28 GMT -1
Can we stop talking about rape please? Sorry, yes. I thought it was important to say a coupla things though. Ru-man Clang! Like it Cav!
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Post by C@V on Jul 6, 2007 10:05:01 GMT -1
Rome - lots of rape with olives and wine. British Empire - lots of rape that unearthed many a natutral resource and curry. Ottaman Empire - lots of rape and Turkish delight..........yuk! Roman - tyrannic and barbarous empire. destroyer of more culture than it spread, whose lasting legacy to the west, is to distrust and fear all those not like us. British - the proto-type capitalist empire for all its evils and goods. Ottaman Empire - the rule of unbending fear... And they all raped that is why I chose those 3 examples. Weather patterns varied beween each empire as well.
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Post by mortontheblade on Jul 6, 2007 10:05:18 GMT -1
you're suggesting that because people would wish to do each other harm they'd rape someone purely to cause them harm, even though in raping them, removing the element of lust, the only pleasure they'd gain in causing pain? - i disagree. i believe most rapists are driven by lust and in taking that away, as you'd hate to much to lust for someone, most people would simply kill the victim. I have no idea whether rapists enjoy their crimes, but I am saying, yes, that the enjoyment comes from causing pain as much as it does from any pleasure they get from the act. No, rape is a crime motivated by hate not by lust. To suggest otherwise is actually kinda dangerous. i'd disagree.
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Post by Neko Bazu on Jul 6, 2007 10:05:43 GMT -1
Tis true, if everyone hated everyone there would indeed be a lot more rape, like Cav suggested! Depends really - generally, if I truly hate someone, I can't stand being near them, ergo certainly wouldn't rape them! It'd depend how spiteful we all felt toward each other more than anything - I don't have it in me to rape someone; I'd just go for the 'hit with big stick' method! (Which incidentally is a great way of preventing rape too!)
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Post by jh1980 on Jul 6, 2007 10:06:33 GMT -1
Roman - tyrannic and barbarous empire. destroyer of more culture than it spread, whose lasting legacy to the west, is to distrust and fear all those not like us. That's not fair Morton. And the second sentence is not true - Rome could teach us a lot about religious toleration, in the pre-Christian period... it was a very accommodating ethos that they had.
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Post by C@V on Jul 6, 2007 10:06:45 GMT -1
you're suggesting that because people would wish to do each other harm they'd rape someone purely to cause them harm, even though in raping them, removing the element of lust, the only pleasure they'd gain in causing pain? - i disagree. i believe most rapists are driven by lust and in taking that away, as you'd hate to much to lust for someone, most people would simply kill the victim. I have no idea whether rapists enjoy their crimes, but I am saying, yes, that the enjoyment comes from causing pain as much as it does from any pleasure they get from the act. No, rape is a crime motivated by hate not by lust. To suggest otherwise is actually kinda dangerous. I agree of course rape is a hate issue no matter how mild the hate. You don't rape someone you like or love and in those circumstances you're lusted up to the eye balls!
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Post by mortontheblade on Jul 6, 2007 10:07:38 GMT -1
Roman - tyrannic and barbarous empire. destroyer of more culture than it spread, whose lasting legacy to the west, is to distrust and fear all those not like us. British - the proto-type capitalist empire for all its evils and goods. Ottaman Empire - the rule of unbending fear... And they all raped that is why I chose those 3 examples. Weather patterns varied beween each empire as well. in a bizarre way, you probably have a point you know....
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