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Post by Shippers on Jun 20, 2007 10:43:31 GMT -1
This sounds very sad, but I actually quite enjoy arguing about modern issues. It's better when you have someone face to face, but on here's alright. I think the point was not that arguing over 'modern issues' is wrong, but that we seem to cycle through the same few arguments, following the small minded and biggoted opinions of the previously mentioned rags. Discussing 'modern issues' is to be comended, but it's best if you think about it and form your own views - which would hopefully be less extreme than 'kill all peados'.
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Post by Neko Bazu on Jun 20, 2007 10:49:24 GMT -1
Discussing 'modern issues' is to be comended, but it's best if you think about it and form your own views - which would hopefully be less extreme than 'kill all peados'. Every opinion is as valid as the next - and I say that as someone not on the 'kill 'em all' wagon. The argument and reasoning behind it, however, is a different matter entirely. I've, on occasion, disagreed heavily with what people on here have said, but if they can back their argument up I'll accept it as a valid point.
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Post by Shippers on Jun 20, 2007 10:52:43 GMT -1
Discussing 'modern issues' is to be comended, but it's best if you think about it and form your own views - which would hopefully be less extreme than 'kill all peados'. Every opinion is as valid as the next - and I say that as someone not on the 'kill 'em all' wagon. The argument and reasoning behind it, however, is a different matter entirely. I've, on occasion, disagreed heavily with what people on here have said, but if they can back their argument up I'll accept it as a valid point. agreed. What worries me is almost total regurgitation of tabloid crap. Why do so many people just accept what they read in the newpapers - Have people not learned that most of it is sensationalised clap trap?
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Post by Neko Bazu on Jun 20, 2007 10:56:59 GMT -1
Every opinion is as valid as the next - and I say that as someone not on the 'kill 'em all' wagon. The argument and reasoning behind it, however, is a different matter entirely. I've, on occasion, disagreed heavily with what people on here have said, but if they can back their argument up I'll accept it as a valid point. agreed. What worries me is almost total regurgitation of tabloid crap. Why do so many people just accept what they read in the newpapers - Have people not learned that most of it is sensationalised clap trap? I gave up reading newspapers of any sort, save for the local rags which are surprisingly unbiased, a long time ago. I tend to stick to the BBC News site (generally not as biased) and Reuters (generally rather professional). Must admit, sensationalism does my fucking head in - especially when it's patently obvious and people can't it see I actually agreed with Blair's recent tirade against the press, when he said every setback became 'a policy in tatters', every criticism became 'a furious tirade' etc - just don't tell Jules!
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Post by jh1980 on Jun 20, 2007 10:59:37 GMT -1
I actually agreed with Blair's recent tirade against the press, when he said every setback became 'a policy in tatters', every criticism became 'a furious tirade' etc - just don't tell Jules! I agreed with that too, about the first time I've agreed with Blair in years! I just defend the Labour Government of 1997 to present on here because no other fooker will! And I still believe it has been better than the alternative!
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Post by urrzzzzzzzzzz on Jun 20, 2007 11:03:28 GMT -1
The tabloids and news reports have to take so much blame for tensions today. Papers like the Daily Mail do not so much producing racist reports and drivel, they're not extreme. But they do make us all suspicious of Muslims for example with all their talk of the Salmon Rushdie, which they have blown out of proportion. I was in London, even in the East End for a while, and I didn't see scores of Muslims demonstrating about it, enraged by our decision. Yet I got that impression from the papers and news, after I saw shots of people saying he deserved to die. So much is blown out of proportion, and people just repeat it without thinking.
he worst part about it is that I have to accept that I get influence by it too. I'll read The Times, Independant, teh Economist and watch the BBC, despite all these different views I still find myself just repeating words of others, and I think everyone does in a respect. People try and pretend to think for themselves and have their own opinion, but however many articles they've read, how many people they've listened to and how open minded they are they normally are just repeating the view of someone else.
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Post by Neko Bazu on Jun 20, 2007 11:03:45 GMT -1
I actually agreed with Blair's recent tirade against the press, when he said every setback became 'a policy in tatters', every criticism became 'a furious tirade' etc - just don't tell Jules! I agreed with that too, about the first time I've agreed with Blair in years! I just defend the Labour Government of 1997 to present on here because no other fooker will! And I still believe it has been better than the alternative! To be fair, we don't know how the alternative would've gone... I'll admit they did give us some decent stuff, but it's the economy side and Blair personally that irk me - but that's for another thread
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Post by urrzzzzzzzzzz on Jun 20, 2007 11:07:16 GMT -1
I agreed with that too, about the first time I've agreed with Blair in years! I just defend the Labour Government of 1997 to present on here because no other fooker will! And I still believe it has been better than the alternative! To be fair, we don't know how the alternative would've gone... I'll admit they did give us some decent stuff, but it's the economy side and Blair personally that irk me - but that's for another thread It's all gone a bit pear shape in recent years, with poeple like Blunkett and Prescott, and I will never agree with the Iraq war which was a mess. But I think this government hasn't been too bad, the country's been pretty steady and affluent compared to abroad. Same time, what happened to the referendums promised on proportional representation and the Euro? I'd like more left wing policies, but none of the three main parties will give them to us, so I'd say I'd happily vote Labour in the next election.
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Post by jh1980 on Jun 20, 2007 11:11:25 GMT -1
Time for more threads methinks... Have views on PR and Euro to raise if anyone's interested...!
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Post by Neko Bazu on Jun 20, 2007 11:12:30 GMT -1
the country's been pretty... affluent compared to abroad Compared to Germany or to Gambia? We're neck-deep in an economy built on debt and false interest rates, that's balanced precariously and depending on people generating even more debt to keep it afloat. It's not a question of 'if' the bubble's gonna burst, but moreso whether we'll crash or have a soft landing when it does. Trouble is, right now it's leaning more towards a crash...
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Post by urrzzzzzzzzzz on Jun 20, 2007 11:14:23 GMT -1
Time for more threads methinks... Have views on PR and Euro to raise if anyone's interested...! I must head into town now to try and get my old job back. New manager has started, which meant I couldn't just walk up to my old one and ask for it following my messionic return from India. But maybe later I'll listen to you.
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Post by jh1980 on Jun 20, 2007 11:16:44 GMT -1
I must head into town now to try and get my old job back. New manager has started, which meant I couldn't just walk up to my old one and ask for it following my messionic return from India. But maybe later I'll listen to you. Fair enough fella! Your "messianic" return? You and Shippers are unusual religious types... ;D Oh, very kind! Okay...
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Post by Neko Bazu on Jun 20, 2007 11:24:45 GMT -1
I must head into town now to try and get my old job back. New manager has started, which meant I couldn't just walk up to my old one and ask for it following my messionic return from India. But maybe later I'll listen to you. Fair enough fella! Your "messianic" return? You and Shippers are unusual religious types... ;D Oh, very kind! Okay... He isn't coming back ;D
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Post by Shippers on Jun 20, 2007 11:30:27 GMT -1
Fair enough fella! Your "messianic" return? You and Shippers are unusual religious types... ;D Oh, very kind! Okay... He isn't coming back ;D you mean like Elvis?
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Post by Shippers on Jun 20, 2007 11:31:41 GMT -1
You and Shippers are unusual religious types are we? (are we even?) ooooooh the mystery of Shippers
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Post by ESR on Jun 20, 2007 16:34:18 GMT -1
Castrate them properly, shoot them in both legs and make them walk from Lands End to John O'Groats chained in a line, if they drop to the floor then the others can drag them. Either way they will waste away before they get there
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Post by jh1980 on Jun 21, 2007 7:31:49 GMT -1
Castrate them properly, shoot them in both legs and make them walk from Lands End to John O'Groats chained in a line, if they drop to the floor then the others can drag them. Either way they will waste away before they get there Wayhey, death marches! Nice to know you favour Nazi-style tactics!
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