Maddy McCann

[Stan]

ovechkin8 said:

Just lock them up permanently.They cannot be cured. But I hear the liberals whining already.

Is that cos we don't live under a dictator...?

[ovechkin8]

No ,we live under a collection of morons in Parliament.

It's common sense. We should lock up burglars for longer .Most of the crime in this country is caused by a small group of criminals in each town.

Just ask your local bobby if you can find one on the beat.

[Stan]

ovechkin8 said:

No ,we live under a collection of morons in Parliament.

It's common sense. We should lock up burglars for longer .Most of the crime in this country is caused by a small group of criminals in each town.

Just ask your local bobby if you can find one on the beat.

True... I agree that most punishments do not fit the crimes, and where the is irrefutable evidence against a person - particularly for such acts as murder, rape, molestation, kidnap etc then the punishment should be longer prison sentences and life meaning life. However, you point about the bobbies on the beat is a good one, because the police don't have time for it anymore due to the "red-tape" allegedly. Whether this is true or not, they're obviously not able to have a greater presence at ground level - hence crimes like burgalry / drug dealing have increased. I think we should reduce the burden on the taxpayer by getting people out of the nick for minor crimes and put them to work / training to give them opportunities... this would then create jobs and give the polive more time to 'police'. (Just a thought)

...my big gripe with the police is they seem hell-bent on crucifying the motorist... how many patrol cars do you see on motorways and A roads... fookin loads - surely they'd be better off (although not financially) proavtively seeking criminals rather than using stealth tactics as a funding mechanism...?

[Neko Bazu]

stan said:

...my big gripe with the police is they seem hell-bent on crucifying the motorist... how many patrol cars do you see on motorways and A roads... fookin loads - surely they'd be better off (although not financially) proavtively seeking criminals rather than using stealth tactics as a funding mechanism...?

Trouble is, those ones you see on the road probably would rather be doing the real business. It's the higher-ups that're worrying about targets and statistics that have them fussing over smaller crimes.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6656411.stm

[CarrowGirl]

I too hope shes found safe and wel,but have to agree with whats been said about leaving her alone,

[leicesterlass]

carrowgirl said:

I too hope shes found safe and wel,but have to agree with whats been said about leaving her alone,

No matter that other people may have approached the situation differently, no one should have to plan for someone stealing your daughter through a window.

I can't judge the parents actions because although I may have done things differently in the same situation it really is irrelevant because I would have never made allowances for what happened.

My mum and dad didn't go up and check on me every half an hour when I was the same age, they did what they think was needed to keep me safe - but we all perceive things differently.

There's no way that the parents would have thought this was going to happen and will now be absolutely racked with guilt...I sincerely feel so, so sorry for them and (what may be) a very scared little girl.

It's easy to preach or be wise in hindsight but I just sympathise with those parents who must now be at their wits end and feeling in utter despair to their very souls.

[Fizzy Bread]

neko said:

stan said:

...my big gripe with the police is they seem hell-bent on crucifying the motorist... how many patrol cars do you see on motorways and A roads... fookin loads - surely they'd be better off (although not financially) proavtively seeking criminals rather than using stealth tactics as a funding mechanism...?

Trouble is, those ones you see on the road probably would rather be doing the real business. It's the higher-ups that're worrying about targets and statistics that have them fussing over smaller crimes.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6656411.stm

Agree with that.. Police are judged on how many arrests they make - that's what they aim for, but these are ridiculously stupid ways of calculating 'how well the police are doing' imo. It just means they have to make arrests for such minor offences; it's ludicrous!

*Sorry about the rant!*

[officergroyman]

I can't imagine what her parents are going through.
I hope to God she is found safe & sound.
Beautiful little girl, I just hope she is still alive & well.

[Fizzy Bread]

She really is a gorgeous little girl - though I bet she'd suit a Leeds shirt much better!

[CHOPPER READ]

And don't i know it.

There is only one force in the whole country that i know of that actively targets motorists and that is Notts police. They have been condemned for it while ignoring serious crime time and again. And while all forces have traffic and motorway sections,they don't force the issue like Notts have.

fizzy0bread0lufc said:

neko said:

Trouble is, those ones you see on the road probably would rather be doing the real business. It's the higher-ups that're worrying about targets and statistics that have them fussing over smaller crimes.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6656411.stm

Agree with that.. Police are judged on how many arrests they make - that's what they aim for, but these are ridiculously stupid ways of calculating 'how well the police are doing' imo. It just means they have to make arrests for such minor offences; it's ludicrous!

*Sorry about the rant!*

[Fizzy Bread]

markbrandonread said:

And don't i know it.

There is only one force in the whole country that i know of that actively targets motorists and that is Notts police. They have been condemned for it while ignoring serious crime time and again. And while all forces have traffic and motorway sections,they don't force the issue like Notts have.

fizzy0bread0lufc said:

Agree with that.. Police are judged on how many arrests they make - that's what they aim for, but these are ridiculously stupid ways of calculating 'how well the police are doing' imo. It just means they have to make arrests for such minor offences; it's ludicrous!

*Sorry about the rant!*

Looking at just some of the reasons for being arrested in the article just defy belief; that is what officers are being driven to just to meet targets (either that or they're just bloody mean)

• A man from Cheshire who was cautioned for being "found in possession of an egg with intent to throw"
  
  
• A child in Kent who was arrested after removing a slice of cucumber from a sandwich and throwing it at another youngster
  
  
• A West Midlands woman arrested on her wedding day for criminal damage after her foot slipped on her accelerator pedal and her vehicle damaged a car park barrier
  
  
• A child from Kent who was arrested for throwing cream buns at a bus
  
  
• A 70-year-old Cheshire pensioner who was arrested for criminal damage after cutting back a neighbour's conifer trees
  
  
• An officer in the West Midlands who was told to caution a man for throwing a glass of water over his girlfriend
  
  
• Two children from Manchester who were arrested for being in possession of a plastic toy pistol

[Billy]

The Portuguese police are holding a press conference tonight at 6pm - that Murat fella is now a full blown suspect

[CHOPPER READ]

If i stopped someone in the street 10 years ago i only had to fill in my pocket book. Now i fill in my pocket book and another 3 forms at least.

fizzy0bread0lufc said:

markbrandonread said:

And don't i know it.

There is only one force in the whole country that i know of that actively targets motorists and that is Notts police. They have been condemned for it while ignoring serious crime time and again. And while all forces have traffic and motorway sections,they don't force the issue like Notts have.

Looking at just some of the reasons for being arrested in the article just defy belief; that is what officers are being driven to just to meet targets (either that or they're just bloody mean)

• A man from Cheshire who was cautioned for being "found in possession of an egg with intent to throw"
  
  
• A child in Kent who was arrested after removing a slice of cucumber from a sandwich and throwing it at another youngster
  
  
• A West Midlands woman arrested on her wedding day for criminal damage after her foot slipped on her accelerator pedal and her vehicle damaged a car park barrier
  
  
• A child from Kent who was arrested for throwing cream buns at a bus
  
  
• A 70-year-old Cheshire pensioner who was arrested for criminal damage after cutting back a neighbour's conifer trees
  
  
• An officer in the West Midlands who was told to caution a man for throwing a glass of water over his girlfriend
  
  
• Two children from Manchester who were arrested for being in possession of a plastic toy pistol

[CHOPPER READ]

So where the fuck is she? They had him for 12 hours yesterday. They also had the local bloke and the German woman.

bbl said:

The Portuguese police are holding a press conference tonight at 6pm - that Murat fella is now a full blown suspect

[Fizzy Bread]

bbl said:

The Portuguese police are holding a press conference tonight at 6pm - that Murat fella is now a full blown suspect

Let's hope it's a positive development.. one gets the feeling the police will 'suspect' anyone over the slightest thing as they've nothing else to go on

[CHOPPER READ]

The GNR have been critisised for with holding information. In this country the media jump on stories like Vultures on a carcass. This means trying to find an unbiased jury becomes harder,public feeling come into play,and nailing the bastards who do these things becomes harder.

[ovechkin8]

You can't really blame the police. Most I've spoken too are decent chaps & girls who are boiling with frustration .

Its the idiots appointed above them .They are pimply youths with a degree in criminal science & fired by political correctness.

In our area it doesn't matter if you make the criteria they are mroe concerned if you're from the right minority & your sexual orientation.

How can a five foot one slip of a girl tackle a armed mugger for instance ?

It's all Blair & his cronies doing. They've ruined the police force & any sense of fear & respect PCs may have had in the eyes of the public. The laws they've made are always poorly thought out,are covered by existing legislation & full of loopholes.

Unsurprisingly crafted by a bunch of crooked lawyers to make fortunes from in the courts.

Tough on crime and the causes of crime.

[Fizzy Bread]

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6662723.stm

A fund has now been set up to help find Madeline.

"Also at the launch, colleagues of Madeleine's mother Kate and father Gerry paid tribute to the couple as "very successful doctors within our community".

She is a GP and he is a consultant cardiologist."

Is it just me who finds it shocking that, given their professions, well more so Mrs McCann, that the children were left alone?!

[Main Admin Account]

I have to agree with you there Spozzer my dear pal. No matter what their job though, the children should never have been left alone like that. On the other hand hindsight is a mighty fine thing

[Fizzy Bread]

admin said:

I have to agree with you there Spozzer my dear pal. No matter what their job though, the children should never have been left alone like that. On the other hand hindsight is a mighty fine thing

Oh I know, I'm not saying if you're a shop assistant, you can leave you kids on their own, dunno it just seems that a GP would be very wary of this kind of thing or any dangers to a child.

It is but in this case (IMO) hindsight shouldn't be an issue, they shouldn't have left the kids on their own in the first place.