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killa
Aug 7, 2006 9:44:45 GMT -1
Post by Fizzy Bread on Aug 7, 2006 9:44:45 GMT -1
Tbh, if a player says he's staying, they often leave anyway. Either way it doesn't matter what he says, we'll not find out til the window closes.
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killa
Aug 7, 2006 9:55:02 GMT -1
Post by WyomingWhite on Aug 7, 2006 9:55:02 GMT -1
Tbh, if a player says he's staying, they often leave anyway. Either way it doesn't matter what he says, we'll not find out til the window closes. Yeah you are right. Just like this reported in July this year: Hulse said, "I see my future at the club [Leeds], absolutely. I'm a Leeds United player and I'm very happy where I am. I'm only interested in going out and doing my job."
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killa
Aug 7, 2006 10:00:45 GMT -1
Post by Donnie White on Aug 7, 2006 10:00:45 GMT -1
I think if a decent offer comes in for Killa then the likelyhood is that he'll be off. Not because he wants to leave but it would be down to the board wanting the money, and then his agent persuading him that a move will be great for his career (and thereby getting a fat pay cheque).
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killa
Aug 7, 2006 10:02:08 GMT -1
Post by Fizzy Bread on Aug 7, 2006 10:02:08 GMT -1
Tbh, if a player says he's staying, they often leave anyway. Either way it doesn't matter what he says, we'll not find out til the window closes. Yeah you are right. Just like this reported in July this year: Hulse said, "I see my future at the club [Leeds], absolutely. I'm a Leeds United player and I'm very happy where I am. I'm only interested in going out and doing my job." That's the 'i'm off to another club' parting shot.
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killa
Aug 7, 2006 10:10:35 GMT -1
Post by Donnie White on Aug 7, 2006 10:10:35 GMT -1
What I don't understand is that our main weakness on the field is the inability to cope with pace at the back. True - we did have one of the best defences last season, however we still get caught out time and time again.
If we sold Killa then that would leave us with Gregan and Butler who, although both played incredible last season, aren't the quickest CB's and therefore making our weakness even more apparant for every other team in the Championship to see.
Even if KB reinvested the money in a couple of new CB's, they are not likely to have the pace or the skill which Killa has. In otherwords it would be madness to sell him, unless of course KB has a super secret plan which nobody knows about......
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killa
Aug 7, 2006 10:34:13 GMT -1
Post by WyomingWhite on Aug 7, 2006 10:34:13 GMT -1
What I don't understand is that our main weakness on the field is the inability to cope with pace at the back. True - we did have one of the best defences last season, however we still get caught out time and time again. If we sold Killa then that would leave us with Gregan and Butler who, although both played incredible last season, aren't the quickest CB's and therefore making our weakness even more apparant for every other team in the Championship to see. Even if KB reinvested the money in a couple of new CB's, they are not likely to have the pace or the skill which Killa has. In otherwords it would be madness to sell him, unless of course KB has a super secret plan which nobody knows about...... Well it looks like we may have three signings minimum before the window shuts - two central defenders and a left back. Hopefully Hayden Foxe will sign after impressing in pre-season, but I'm not too convinced by Mo Camara at left back coming in - he's out of favour at Celtic with good reason, but does still have a decent turn of pace for his age and could perhaps be an asset. I think Blackwell is trying to persuade Celtic to give us him on a season long loan rather than sign him outright. The lanky german defender (whose name escapes me) looks as though he may be back in the equation too.
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killa
Aug 7, 2006 11:16:08 GMT -1
Post by jimbo on Aug 7, 2006 11:16:08 GMT -1
To be honest if we got offere 4 mil for Killa I would snap their fingers off, only though if I had a replacement lined up..... It would be sad to see him leave but if you have got potential replacements lined up, you could get someone better than him for less than that..... hes a good tackler and header of the ball but his distribution is appaling...
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killa
Aug 7, 2006 13:10:05 GMT -1
Post by Joe on Aug 7, 2006 13:10:05 GMT -1
hmm well i just sent a very heartfelt letter to the club explaining that we simply cannot sell kilgallon. I just hope they take notice, why are the managers and directors of the club the only ones that cannot see how selling Killa wud be totally the worst thinf to do? Fine we will get a few mil but we will not get promoted and lose out on the £30m that it brings with it. If all they are interested in is money then surely they shouldnt sell him.
Anyway i hope they read my letter as it took me ages, and the club should listen to the fans opinions'
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killa
Aug 7, 2006 13:12:12 GMT -1
Post by coachiolalufc on Aug 7, 2006 13:12:12 GMT -1
you shouldve photocopied it and sent one to thorpe arch as well as elland road!
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killa
Aug 7, 2006 13:43:48 GMT -1
Post by Joe on Aug 7, 2006 13:43:48 GMT -1
you shouldve photocopied it and sent one to thorpe arch as well as elland road! well i saved it on the computer, so i could send it there too!
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killa
Aug 7, 2006 13:45:30 GMT -1
Post by WyomingWhite on Aug 7, 2006 13:45:30 GMT -1
you shouldve photocopied it and sent one to thorpe arch as well as elland road! well i saved it on the computer, so i could send it there too! Are you going to post it on here for us to read?
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killa
Aug 7, 2006 14:02:49 GMT -1
Post by Joe on Aug 7, 2006 14:02:49 GMT -1
well i saved it on the computer, so i could send it there too! Are you going to post it on here for us to read? Yeah i will do in a bit, just off to post the copy to Thorpe Arch now though.
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killa
Aug 7, 2006 14:28:29 GMT -1
Post by Joe on Aug 7, 2006 14:28:29 GMT -1
Ok heres the letter i sent... Dear sir/madam, My Name is Joe Henson and I have been a Leeds United supporter all my life. I have been through the extasy of being in the Champions League Final, and the heartache of relegation from the Premierhip, and with that the sale of our best players. These players being homegrown players, and Leeds United fans such as Alan Smith, Johnathon Woodgate, Paul Robinson, and many more. I am aware that the sale of these particular players was needed for the club to survive, and i appreciate that. But recently Leeds United has been on the up again, being in the play off final last season proved this. Us fans were also told by the manager that the club was financially stable again, and that we 'were not a selling club' obviously the fans were extatic to hear these words. But even more recently we were shocked to find that Rob Hulse, our leading goal scorer from last season had been sold to our Yorkshire rivals, Sheffield United. Now we got double what we paid for Rob, which was a good piece of business, fair enough, but to achieve promotion, we need to keep our best players at this club. But the main point of me writing this letter is that there are very strong rumours that Matthew Kilgallon is to be sold. When i heard about these rumours, and they are pretty solid rumours, i was mortified. Why on earth would you sell our best player at the moment? Not only is he a very very good defender, who without, our defence would be a shambles, but he is a young man who has also been a lifelong Leeds United fan, who only signed a new contract last year. Kevin Blackwell and Ken Bates stated at the beginning of the 1st Cahmpionship season that Leeds United aim to achieve promotion back to the premiership in 3 years, this is the third year, and thus our year to give it a real go at getting promoted. How are we supposed to do this if we sell our top players? And for what? A few million to spend on 'ground improvements to increase revenue'? It seems that again, its all about greedy people getting more and more money. All fans know that Killa is one of/our best player at this club, hes already stated that he doesnt want to move, so why force him!? Even if we did sell him for £3-4million , we'd just end up buying some 30+ year old journeyman defender, and we already have two of those in Butler and Gregan, we cant have anymore. Kilgallon has often drawn comparisons with Leeds favourite Johnathon Woodgate, which i feel are warranted, he is a very similar player, with just as much potential and skill. He is the future of this club, and i personally couldnt cope with us selling ANOTHER home grown talent to go with the list of robbo, smith, woody, walton, kewell. And i know that a lot of other fans agree with this, if you sell him, you will undoubtidly witness a backlash from these loyal supporters, who would once again become dis-illusioned as to where this club is heading, and fans asking if managers and directors of this club actually WANT us to go back up! As this letter draws to a close i cannot say much more to you, you probably wont even have read this far, and this letter has just ended up in the bin, but i plead with you not to sell Matthew Kilgallon, the future of Leeds United, but as well as this, to reassure the fans just what state this club is in, and to appreciate and act on our views rather than that of the money grabbing directors. Yours Sincerely, J Henson Please dont be critical of spelling / punctuation
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killa
Aug 7, 2006 14:37:22 GMT -1
Post by Tony Yeboah's Lunchbox on Aug 7, 2006 14:37:22 GMT -1
Ok heres the letter i sent... Dear sir/madam, My Name is Joe Henson and I have been a Leeds United supporter all my life. I have been through the extasy of being in the Champions League Final, and the heartache of relegation from the Premierhip, and with that the sale of our best players. These players being homegrown players, and Leeds United fans such as Alan Smith, Johnathon Woodgate, Paul Robinson, and many more. I am aware that the sale of these particular players was needed for the club to survive, and i appreciate that. But recently Leeds United has been on the up again, being in the play off final last season proved this. Us fans were also told by the manager that the club was financially stable again, and that we 'were not a selling club' obviously the fans were extatic to hear these words. But even more recently we were shocked to find that Rob Hulse, our leading goal scorer from last season had been sold to our Yorkshire rivals, Sheffield United. Now we got double what we paid for Rob, which was a good piece of business, fair enough, but to achieve promotion, we need to keep our best players at this club. But the main point of me writing this letter is that there are very strong rumours that Matthew Kilgallon is to be sold. When i heard about these rumours, and they are pretty solid rumours, i was mortified. Why on earth would you sell our best player at the moment? Not only is he a very very good defender, who without, our defence would be a shambles, but he is a young man who has also been a lifelong Leeds United fan, who only signed a new contract last year. Kevin Blackwell and Ken Bates stated at the beginning of the 1st Cahmpionship season that Leeds United aim to achieve promotion back to the premiership in 3 years, this is the third year, and thus our year to give it a real go at getting promoted. How are we supposed to do this if we sell our top players? And for what? A few million to spend on 'ground improvements to increase revenue'? It seems that again, its all about greedy people getting more and more money. All fans know that Killa is one of/our best player at this club, hes already stated that he doesnt want to move, so why force him!? Even if we did sell him for £3-4million , we'd just end up buying some 30+ year old journeyman defender, and we already have two of those in Butler and Gregan, we cant have anymore. Kilgallon has often drawn comparisons with Leeds favourite Johnathon Woodgate, which i feel are warranted, he is a very similar player, with just as much potential and skill. He is the future of this club, and i personally couldnt cope with us selling ANOTHER home grown talent to go with the list of robbo, smith, woody, walton, kewell. And i know that a lot of other fans agree with this, if you sell him, you will undoubtidly witness a backlash from these loyal supporters, who would once again become dis-illusioned as to where this club is heading, and fans asking if managers and directors of this club actually WANT us to go back up! As this letter draws to a close i cannot say much more to you, you probably wont even have read this far, and this letter has just ended up in the bin, but i plead with you not to sell Matthew Kilgallon, the future of Leeds United, but as well as this, to reassure the fans just what state this club is in, and to appreciate and act on our views rather than that of the money grabbing directors. Yours Sincerely, J Henson Please dont be critical of spelling / punctuation Good stuff Joe! Exalt for you for writing that! Pretty much sums up everyone's feelings on the matter on here and you've hit the nail on the head. Whether it gets read or ends up as another screwed up ball of paper in the bin is another matter........but well done mate for showing the kind of passion Leeds fans are all about.
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killa
Aug 7, 2006 14:38:26 GMT -1
Post by Tony Yeboah's Lunchbox on Aug 7, 2006 14:38:26 GMT -1
Oh but we were not in the Champions League final mate....Semis
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killa
Aug 7, 2006 14:45:08 GMT -1
Post by Joe on Aug 7, 2006 14:45:08 GMT -1
Oh but we were not in the Champions League final mate....Semis haha oops Ah well, they probably wont even notice and cheers for the exalt mate
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killa
Aug 7, 2006 14:46:15 GMT -1
Post by WyomingWhite on Aug 7, 2006 14:46:15 GMT -1
Exalt from me too Joe. I hope it is read and taken on board by someone with clout at the club.
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killa
Aug 7, 2006 15:04:45 GMT -1
Post by Joe on Aug 7, 2006 15:04:45 GMT -1
Exalt from me too Joe. I hope it is read and taken on board by someone with clout at the club. Cheers
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killa
Aug 7, 2006 17:06:06 GMT -1
Post by kbateschqbk on Aug 7, 2006 17:06:06 GMT -1
He went on to say that he was happy to stay and that his career was at Leeds for now - that was a bit worrying I must admit but nothing to suggest that he was actively looking to leave - I came away thinking he probably would be going but he didn't SAY he was.... Overall he seemed pretty positive about things and that he and Butts were looking to keep the most clean sheets this season rather than 3rd last season...
Players come and go and Leeds United still go marching on, Woodgate comes to mind when he left Leeds his career never quite took off..I have learnt over the years loyalty has a price, the transfer window closes on August 20th. Can Jen talk to him and get him to stay or we might have to send our mighty Administrator Hulsey around to talk some sense into him...
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killa
Aug 7, 2006 17:30:42 GMT -1
Post by Joe on Aug 7, 2006 17:30:42 GMT -1
what i dont get is that if he did say all this, why the press hasnt picked up on it yet?
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