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Post by GeoFox on Aug 29, 2007 19:45:21 GMT -1
I think I may be off now, now I've finished crosschecking some database. Night girls.
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Post by Fizzy Bread on Aug 29, 2007 19:46:16 GMT -1
Well the case weighs about a stone and the max. limit at Heathrow is 20kg, 3.15 stone Whack it all in the hand luggage. My hand luggage was about 17kilos! But it fitted in the right size hole so they didn't question. Killed my back though. I don't have a big bag for hand luggage.. Dyou know how big the hand luggage bag can be?/Weight limit? I've got like books and a camera in my hand luggage, amongst other things.. **Never mind, found the guidelines..
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Post by Fizzy Bread on Aug 29, 2007 19:48:54 GMT -1
I think I may be off now, now I've finished crosschecking some database. Night girls. Night Ash
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Post by CHOPPER READ on Aug 29, 2007 19:48:58 GMT -1
Whack it all in the hand luggage. My hand luggage was about 17kilos! But it fitted in the right size hole so they didn't question. Killed my back though. I don't have a big bag for hand luggage.. Dyou know how big the hand luggage bag can be?/Weight limit? I've got like books and a camera in my hand luggage, amongst other things.. Why is your body hummin' Spozzy? You not showered today?
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Post by Fizzy Bread on Aug 29, 2007 19:50:55 GMT -1
I don't have a big bag for hand luggage.. Dyou know how big the hand luggage bag can be?/Weight limit? I've got like books and a camera in my hand luggage, amongst other things.. Why is your body hummin' Spozzy? You not showered today? Trust you!! Yes I have, actually. I do every day. Cheeky sod.
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Post by Lollipop on Aug 29, 2007 19:52:24 GMT -1
Lol you said you weren't 100% sure you were coming down on Friday. Night Trav! Ohh haha, sorry.. Umm, I dunno, it depends how much packing/clearing up I get done tomorra, which will be a significant amount seeing as mum'll nag me til I get some done but I'd say about 60/40 against (Yes you may kill me - after I get back from HK) Lol well let me know tomorrow.
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Post by CHOPPER READ on Aug 29, 2007 19:52:38 GMT -1
Why is your body hummin' Spozzy? You not showered today? Trust you!! Yes I have, actually. I do every day. Cheeky sod. You seem to have me mistaken for someone .....erm.....cheeky or summat.
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Post by filbert85 on Aug 29, 2007 19:53:25 GMT -1
Right, haven't had a chance to put in my ten penneth on an extraordinary 24 hours at leicester, so here it is.
First of all, get well soon to Clive Clarke. It's particularly poignant given what happened to Puerta earlier this week so my best wishes to the guy. I was appalled by the reaction of the forest fans to the news on the night. We were all disappointed to see the game abandoned but no game of football is more important than a person's life. Maybe they didn't fully appreciate the severity of what had happened until later, but to be fair all the Leicester fans around me knew exactly what was going on way before any announcement was made.
As for Allen leaving "by mutual consent", I'm absolutely fucking fuming. Only the most naive of fans doesn't know what this really means, and the whole thing leaves me very concerned. I said at the time of Mandaric's takeover that I was worried this would lead to a real period of instability at the club, similar to what happened at Portsmouth and perhaps my concerns are vindicated.
I'm utterly bemused by the decision. As many others have said here, Mandaric knew exactly what he was taking on when Allen was appointed. It was a gamble both in terms of Martin's lack of experience at this level, but also his no nonsense personality. Milan must surely have foreseen that interference by the board wouldn't be tolerated. Allen was applauded onto the pitch before the game against Watford, the best football I've ever seen us play incidentally, and all the fans I know were absolutely delighted to see a man with his kind of personality come into a club which really needs a good kick up the arse. He had great backing from the supporters, so I'll be interested to see what kind of backlash there is now against Mandaric.
It was also said in the statement from the club that the decision was taken to keep us on course for promotion this season. Well hold on, I thought this was a three year plan? If that's part of the reason why, it's a fucking joke. Not sure if the Hasselbaink stuff had any relevance, but I've got no particular problem with a manager who wants honest, hard working footballers rather than big money "celebrity" signings, irrespective of the board's wishes.
And anyway, anyone remember what happened to Charlton last season? New money, a flurry of managers and relegation. So we know now that Mandaric is a patient man - well what if the worst does happen now and we get sucked into a relegation dog fight again after six or seven managers can't pull us out. Is Milan gonna take his money and say, "fuck this I'm off elsewhere", where his ambitions can be more immediately achieved?
You have to question the timing of this as well, less than 24 hours after one of our players nearly died in the dressing room in one of the most eagerly anticipated derbies in years.
As for the successor, who's gonna want the fucking job? An impatient "hollywood chairman", no time to make your own mark on the team with the transfer window closing this week so you're stuck with the previous guy's team from practically the very start of the season, and you're gonna come in at half time in an intense derby cup match where you're 1-0 down, facing fans who were particularly keen on your predecessor. You know, something similar happened in France recently!
Warnock can fuck off, my understanding is that Jewell doesn't want a job, and I can't see a vast field of applicants clamouring for this post. If this is Mandaric's new era, he can fucking keep it.
Rant over, I'll breathe now...
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Post by Fizzy Bread on Aug 29, 2007 19:53:40 GMT -1
Ohh haha, sorry.. Umm, I dunno, it depends how much packing/clearing up I get done tomorra, which will be a significant amount seeing as mum'll nag me til I get some done but I'd say about 60/40 against (Yes you may kill me - after I get back from HK) Lol well let me know tomorrow. Will do Sorry, again!
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Post by mortontheblade on Aug 30, 2007 9:14:17 GMT -1
you heard it here first. Left by mutual consent absolutely crazy!
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Post by mortontheblade on Aug 30, 2007 9:15:05 GMT -1
Ohh haha, sorry.. Umm, I dunno, it depends how much packing/clearing up I get done tomorra, which will be a significant amount seeing as mum'll nag me til I get some done but I'd say about 60/40 against (Yes you may kill me - after I get back from HK) Lol well let me know tomorrow. YER!!
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Post by GeoFox on Aug 31, 2007 11:20:36 GMT -1
Right, haven't had a chance to put in my ten penneth on an extraordinary 24 hours at leicester, so here it is. First of all, get well soon to Clive Clarke. It's particularly poignant given what happened to Puerta earlier this week so my best wishes to the guy. I was appalled by the reaction of the forest fans to the news on the night. We were all disappointed to see the game abandoned but no game of football is more important than a person's life. Maybe they didn't fully appreciate the severity of what had happened until later, but to be fair all the Leicester fans around me knew exactly what was going on way before any announcement was made. As for Allen leaving "by mutual consent", I'm absolutely fucking fuming. Only the most naive of fans doesn't know what this really means, and the whole thing leaves me very concerned. I said at the time of Mandaric's takeover that I was worried this would lead to a real period of instability at the club, similar to what happened at Portsmouth and perhaps my concerns are vindicated. I'm utterly bemused by the decision. As many others have said here, Mandaric knew exactly what he was taking on when Allen was appointed. It was a gamble both in terms of Martin's lack of experience at this level, but also his no nonsense personality. Milan must surely have foreseen that interference by the board wouldn't be tolerated. Allen was applauded onto the pitch before the game against Watford, the best football I've ever seen us play incidentally, and all the fans I know were absolutely delighted to see a man with his kind of personality come into a club which really needs a good kick up the arse. He had great backing from the supporters, so I'll be interested to see what kind of backlash there is now against Mandaric. It was also said in the statement from the club that the decision was taken to keep us on course for promotion this season. Well hold on, I thought this was a three year plan? If that's part of the reason why, it's a fucking joke. Not sure if the Hasselbaink stuff had any relevance, but I've got no particular problem with a manager who wants honest, hard working footballers rather than big money "celebrity" signings, irrespective of the board's wishes. And anyway, anyone remember what happened to Charlton last season? New money, a flurry of managers and relegation. So we know now that Mandaric is a patient man - well what if the worst does happen now and we get sucked into a relegation dog fight again after six or seven managers can't pull us out. Is Milan gonna take his money and say, "fuck this I'm off elsewhere", where his ambitions can be more immediately achieved? You have to question the timing of this as well, less than 24 hours after one of our players nearly died in the dressing room in one of the most eagerly anticipated derbies in years. As for the successor, who's gonna want the fucking job? An impatient "hollywood chairman", no time to make your own mark on the team with the transfer window closing this week so you're stuck with the previous guy's team from practically the very start of the season, and you're gonna come in at half time in an intense derby cup match where you're 1-0 down, facing fans who were particularly keen on your predecessor. You know, something similar happened in France recently! Warnock can fuck off, my understanding is that Jewell doesn't want a job, and I can't see a vast field of applicants clamouring for this post. If this is Mandaric's new era, he can fucking keep it. Rant over, I'll breathe now... Nicely put Filbert, have an exalt. I agree with you, and am still furious with the situation and the club. I wasn't sure how we'd do this year but I knew Allen would get the best out of the players we have, and was full of optimism from preseason. The rewards seem to be coming through on the pitch as the team gels and he is sacked. I stand by Allen over the signings, as manager of the team he should be the person choosing the signings. Milan of course should have a say, but not be the sole orchestrator. I don't think it happened like that. It would be interesting to see what pushed it over the edge this week so after Clive Clarke, extremely poor timing. I shudder to think where we would be without Milan but he should be a responsible owner. He's not accountable to anyone and I fear he is building up a debt on the club (not using his own money) on a huge squad and sacking managers that don't need sacking. I'm still very dismayed...don't care who we get now...optimism is completely shot. The club should spend more time trying to reconcile and give a frank explanation to a very disgruntled fanbase than making itself a laughing stock and than trying to sue the mirror over a story which doesn't say much.
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Post by GeoFox on Aug 31, 2007 15:46:49 GMT -1
At last a statement from Milan:
A MESSAGE FROM THE CHAIRMAN
Posted on: Fri 31 Aug 2007This has been an extremely difficult few days for the football club and our loyal supporters. For those of you that know me well I have always attempted to be transparent and open about every issue that directly affects the club on and off the field.
Obviously the events of Tuesday night at Nottingham Forest were distressing enough for all concerned when our first team player Clive Clarke collapsed in the dressing room at half-time and required emergency medical assistance to keep him alive.
I am somewhat relieved to report that Clive is making steady progress and I'm sure everyone connected with this football club wishes him well and a rapid recovery.
Let me make one thing perfectly clear those unfortunate circumstances bore no relation to the subsequent departure of Martin Allen and his coaching staff the following day.
As you may have noted on the club's website earlier today we have initiated legal proceedings against a national newspaper following a disgraceful and inaccurate article that attempted to tie the two incidents together.
Such reporting is an absolute disgrace. At no time did the reporter connected with the story attempt to clarify any of the accusations made in the article and if he had the report would never have been published.
I am not naive and are well aware that people read this and assume it has credibility when none exists.
Our medical team and the emergency services were heroic and undoubtedly saved Clive's life.
At no time did Martin Allen give the player mouth-to-mouth resuscitation. Our physio Dave Rennie and fitness coach Damien Doyle administered that.
So to suggest I ruthlessly sacked a manger hours after he saved a players life is nothing short of a disgrace. In no way am I attempting to downplay people's involvement including Martin's.
I am indebted to them for the swift action they took, they are and will remain heroes in my book.
It puts the game of football in perspective when something like this happens. Life is an invaluable commodity and we should all cherish that.
Needless to say the two incidents involving Clive and Martin are unrelated. As you may be aware we have had to sign a confidentiality agreement with Martin.
It pains me to say that it protects both parties but at the same time prevents any kind of transparency.
I am well aware that as a result of this, speculation about Martin's departure has been rife. We have received letters of support at the club and letters of criticism.
The truth is we may never be in a position to elaborate on the reasons we felt it would be in the best interest of the club if both parties went there separate ways.
Legal issues prevent me from talking any further which prompted the club to issue a swift but brief statement on Wednesday night.
My only regret is that I didn't act before Wednesday. I gave serious thought to taking the decision on Sunday and with the benefit of hindsight I wish I had.
The most important thing is this football club and it's supporters. Chairman, managers, players and staff will come and go but the club and it's following will always remain.
I have maintained throughout my brief tenure at the club that unity and trust must prevail. Everything becomes pointless without it.
I will not refrain from taking difficult decisions if I believe it's in the best interest of the football club.
And if I have to part company with 20 mangers to ensure I bring top-flight football back to the Walkers Stadium you can rest assure I'll do it.
I have asked for one thing from the supporters, trust. And in trying and difficult times I implore you to back my judgment move on and get right behind the team.
Without prevailing unity this club cannot function so it's imperative we stand together and work toward our goal of promotion this season.
I close by making it clear that the search to find a new manager is under way. But contrary to claims there is no short-list or stand out candidate about to be appointed.
Obviously the media will speculate and continue to do so. But when we are in a position to make any formal announcement the supporters will be the first to know.
Milan Mandaric _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
Doesn't really put my mind at rest. I don't see how this confidentiality agreement does either Milan or Martin any favours. He is just asking the fans for trust but giving no real reason why we should. He says he wants promotion this year, and I would like to see who in the current managerial market is more likely to deliver it than Allen (given he has made the signings, had preseason and knows players' strengths and downfalls). I can only therefore assume there must be a serious reason behind his departure...but we shall never know. I don't think them not getting on about JFH etc really cuts the mustard...this is a serious decision....particularly if he was considering taking action on Sunday, straight after the Watford game. I almost hope something was seriously awry to make his sacking justified.
I wait with baited breath for the new manager and he MUST make the right choice this time. No more messing around.
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Post by filbert85 on Sept 1, 2007 20:09:52 GMT -1
So, this is what I can glean from Mandaric's statement:
"...absolutely nothing..."
We learn nothing we didn't already know. No explanation, just a plea for solidarity as he obviously fears a backlash.
The fans will be behind you Milan if you stop fucking us about and just tell us what's happened. You can't expect trust without some form of quid pro quo - and if he doesn't deliver this "promotion at the end of the season", which by the way I still don't understand from where this came, he's going to have to show a great deal more of this fabled "transparency".
Absolutely with you on this Geo. I can't see how you can expect any manager to come in and achieve immediate promotion with someone else's team and the chairman breathing down your neck. No-one was in a better position to achieve Milan's vision than Martin Allen, so I just don't buy this "we had different views on the future of the club" business.
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Post by GeoFox on Sept 2, 2007 17:08:09 GMT -1
So, this is what I can glean from Mandaric's statement: "...absolutely nothing..." We learn nothing we didn't already know. No explanation, just a plea for solidarity as he obviously fears a backlash. The fans will be behind you Milan if you stop fucking us about and just tell us what's happened. You can't expect trust without some form of quid pro quo - and if he doesn't deliver this "promotion at the end of the season", which by the way I still don't understand from where this came, he's going to have to show a great deal more of this fabled "transparency". Absolutely with you on this Geo. I can't see how you can expect any manager to come in and achieve immediate promotion with someone else's team and the chairman breathing down your neck. No-one was in a better position to achieve Milan's vision than Martin Allen, so I just don't buy this "we had different views on the future of the club" business. No, nor do I but I suspect we'll never know what it was all about. I guess we just have to get behind whoever the new guy is, it won't be there fault for what has happened previously (however much a mug they are for working under Milan). Still, the Peter Reid rumours are particularly unsettling! I have a feeling he'll get 2 in (1st team coach and director of football) in a youth and experience mix.
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Post by GeoFox on Sept 19, 2007 16:02:42 GMT -1
Stop poisoning this club - Milan
by Bill Anderson
Leicester City chairman Milan Mandaric has blasted certain elements of the club's fans for “poisoning the club.”
He was incensed at Nottingham Forest last night when chants of “One Martin Allen” rang out from small sections of the City support.
Mandaric, below, saw it as an insult to himself and to his new manager Gary Megson.
The former Forest manager was only appointed as Allen's successor last Thursday, and last night he led City to a 3-2 win at the City Ground in the re-arranged Carling Cup second round tie after giving the home side a “free” goal at the beginning.
Although other, larger groups of the Blue Army responded with chants of support, Mandaric was furious at what he had heard.
He said: “I was very disappointed to hear that coming from those among our supporters, who are clearly not supporters at all, at least not by what it said the last time I looked in the dictionary.
“I am working very hard to take this club forward. I am using my money, my enthusiasm and my energy, which is driven by doing this for the 20,000-plus fans in the majority, not small minorities like this whose behaviour I find totally unacceptable.
“They are poisoning the club. They are those who have been part of the doom and gloom element over the years here, and we are all working hard to move things forward. I want them with me in this, not against me.
“When I first came to this club, I asked the people to trust me and I have only one aim, to make this club successful for everyone.
“I hope the true supporters isolate and reject those groups who are obviously not real fans.
“Were they not at Nottingham in the previous game under Martin Allen when that 45 minutes was a disgrace?
“To do this when the team is out there fighting back to win, showing great spirit under the new manager, was unacceptable.
“It also spoiled a night when not only did the team win a fine victory, but also when the reputation of the club, through sportsmanship, would be known not just in this country but around the world.”
Mandaric came up with the idea to give Forest a goal start last night.
It was a gesture of fairness as Forest had been 1-0 up when the original game was abandoned because of the half-time collapse of City's Clive Clarke, and it also stunned the crowd on both sides.
Megson had backed the move and said: “In view of how well Forest had done in their help in dealing with the Clive Clarke situation, we felt it was only right and fair that we did this.
“I told Forest our plan only a few minutes before the game, and we had to keep it under wraps until then because, with people betting on first goalscorers and all these other things in football now, it would have been a problem.
“So that Forest could not be accused of anything, it was left to me to pick the goalscorer and that is why their goalkeeper (Paul Smith) got the goal.
“It was the right thing to do and then our team showed the strength of character needed to twice come back from behind to win the game.”
Forest manager Colin Calderwood added: €˜€˜Leicester felt it was the correct thing to do and I must admit it took us back a little bit to start with.
“But it was an honourable gesture and I would like to think that football in general has come out of the game as the winner.”
City now face Martin O'Neill's Aston Villa in the third round at Villa Park a week tonight - a repeat of the same stage last year when Villa won on penalties at the Walkers Stadium.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ oooerrrr Mr Mandaric. Certainly has a decent point but not sure he should be saying it when he (confidentiality clause or not) hasn't explained why. We really need to get behind Megson as a group of fans though.
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