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Post by ovechkin8 on Apr 9, 2008 20:18:40 GMT -1
Can Simpson stop being ABs lover & do what is necessary ? Withour Burkinshaw the real brains of our sucess its pathetic. If the cretins who purport to wear the yellow shirts knew how much we are hurting inside tonight after yet another spineless gutless inept performance they might realise its time for him & his staff to go. Pyschologists, defensive coaches ,fitness trainers ...what a waste of money. We employ players who cannot pass to a teamate. Abysmal. His signings have been 90% of the time utterly shite. He tried signing a Peruvian defender last summer who no one had heard of. A player who can pass a ball & played well against Arsenal & Chelsea cant get a game/ Decent kids like Robinson, Grant & Campana are thrown away. He signs players then does not play them. John ? Great striker according to the wanker yet not even on the subs bench tonight. Meanwhile on loan deadline day looking to sign Sinclair, Lita , Helguson or Stokes. Not a chance. Non existent midfield not an ounce of creativity. Already sinking inwardly before the kick off. Switches McAnuff to the right where he is uncomfortable. No sign of Ainsworth. Stewart who cannot cross on the left wing. O'Toole who cannot pass the proverbial water .... Shittu up in desperation cannot move. Amazing how clubs like Wolves can sign Ebanks-Blake & Edwards & improve their squad yet this nob signs turkeys for enormous sums. We cant afford any more of this. Mind you the service the strikers have received has been piss poor. No wonder the car thief left. AB you;re not fit to be compared to GTs bootlaces. You're a tactically inept , politician type useless twat saved only by Hitler Simpson & Stalin Ashton. How dare Alex Chamberlain take umbrage because some fans in the East Stand decide to vent their frustration. We've always been a club where the players give their all as exemplified by Ross Jenkins , Luther Blissett & Helguson. This is the worst football I have seen in fifteen years not fit for parks football. How sorry I feel for Ray Lewington who managed to get us to play decent football on a shoestring with 2 cup semis ,spotted non league players like Cook ,Fitzgerald & Demerit & nurtured players like Ashley Young & had to sell all of them. AB is a fraud & a charlatan. I will bring in a new playing style over the summer. Oh yeah ?? Martin Hunter another overpaid staff C*nt. As I said in January time for Collins. Get rid of most of the squad. The only ones to keep are Loach,Lee, Demerit, Bromby, Shittu (probably will leave, maybe Sadler, Eustace, Robinson back from loan, McAnuff, Smudger & some of the kids like Liam Henderson, Lewis Young & please god if we get rid of this wanker Priskin ,Williamson & Rinaldi. Wouldn't surprise me to see this prick try to sign Davenport despite the fact he'll never be the same player again after that neck injury but knowing this fraud he'll do the same as with John . AB the new Steve McLaren.
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Post by PureOldGold on Apr 9, 2008 20:20:40 GMT -1
Thats it Ovechkin, let it all out matey Really suprised with that result tonight, i know you've not exactly on form, but to lose by a three goal margin How are you anyway?
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Post by GresleyRam©®™ on Apr 9, 2008 20:20:56 GMT -1
still positive then? ;D
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Post by CHOPPER READ on Apr 9, 2008 20:22:35 GMT -1
And there was me thinking you were having a decent season.
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Post by ovechkin8 on Apr 9, 2008 20:36:06 GMT -1
Hallo POG. I'm feeling terrible. I nearly felt liking leaving early for once but it feels like stabbing your lover in the back. I'm depressed & very very angry. Told you McCarthy would get it right. Decent January signings in Edwards & Ebanks-Blake & is it Kightley who has come back from injury ? Chopper we've been playing nearly as well as Derby this season. At least they now have a manager who has some clue to playing football & is getting rid of the deadwood. We were lucky in the early part of the season that we had Adam Johnson .We've been abysmal all season. Aside from the game against Barnsley away where we battered them & still somehow lost we've scraped results. GT played a system & the players knew their roles & if you watch ESPN Classic we had skilled players & leaders like McClelland like Sims, Jenkins, Barnesy , Blissett, Porter & co. AB football is appalling. The players have no idea what they are doing , no confidence in the manager. Theres no tactical flexibility or awareness & their technical ability is shocking. O'Toole would not get a game in a Brazilian or Argentina kids team. He cant even pass like Bangura .... Henderson cannot trap a ball Kabba cannot trap himself. Horrific. Really feeling low. Get Boothroyd out please . Next season will be even tougher with Chelsea mark 2, Swansea & Carlisle & perhaps Forest coming up & Derby with funds & Fulham with near enougt the same team coming down. If it wasn't so sad I'd be laughing.
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Post by ---------a on Apr 9, 2008 20:43:33 GMT -1
Who cares if you play shitty football, you're still only a few points off the top of the league.
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Post by ovechkin8 on Apr 9, 2008 20:50:56 GMT -1
Knowing the position the Saints are in Rich I suppose we look in a good position. But we have no chance at all even if Eustace comes back. We are truly terrible & AB hasn't a scooby. Take away our first 14 games 11 wins 2 draws 2 defeats thats 38 points from 28 games. RELEGATION FORM. And we will be there if nothing is changed. Theres a familiar pattern. Clubs who have been in the Prem like the Saints, Leicester, Leeds , the Owls & Forest whoop it up then struggle & thenn grapple around trying to avoid the drop to division three. And we will be going there . We have an enormnous wagebill which can only be sustained with Premiershi football. WBA & Hull to go up & either Wolves,Palace or Cardiff by the playoffs for sure. Bristol Shitty have flattered to deceive & Stoke are running out of steam. Not even Maradona or Pele could rescue us now. ;D Sod off Boothroyd ..... quick.
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Post by Golden_Boy™ on Apr 9, 2008 20:54:07 GMT -1
Withour Burkinshaw the real brains of our sucess its pathetic. We have been crying out for a proper assistant manager since he left - I've said this numerous times & it remains the case. Malky is no adequate replacement. Gotta disagree with the Aidy out sentiments though Ovech - see my last thread I posted for reasons why.
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Post by ovechkin8 on Apr 9, 2008 20:58:49 GMT -1
I've had it with AB & his playing staff GB. Its a disgrace to the shirt. We've always been not that great style wise but we've always shown real passion & commitment. We've haven't got an iota of that now. I want Collins in now with a decent assistant like Gibbo with Blissett with the youth before AB wastes another slew of money this summer & expends the parachute payment. Forget Z-cars this is our new entry theme: www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqyRmDZ2D2AWFC fans might like to try this site. I've considered it: www.samaritans.org/
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Post by ---------a on Apr 9, 2008 21:03:25 GMT -1
Knowing the position the Saints are in Rich I suppose we look in a good position. I know this has not much to do with Bothroyd, but even though we lost 3-2 at your place back in September, out of the 18 away games ive been to this season, that still is one of my favourites. Ah reminices about Dyer's goal *thinks of something to say to keep the post on topic about Bothroyd* Oh when I was back at school in the 05/06 season, me and mates always used to take the piss out Aidy Bothroyd for some reason
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Post by ovechkin8 on Apr 9, 2008 21:11:38 GMT -1
By rights you should have won that game Rich which just reinforces my view. Your mates ought to spend a few shillings on the Lottery this weekend. They were right about dear old Betty Hoofroyd. Useless,clueless, full of hot air. Could he be the next England manager ? And take Malkay with him. Skull thicker than Edinburgh Castle.
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Post by Golden_Boy™ on Apr 9, 2008 21:23:10 GMT -1
I've had it with AB & his playing staff GB. Its a disgrace to the shirt. We've always been not that great style wise but we've always shown real passion & commitment. We've haven't got an iota of that now. I want Collins in now with a decent assistant like Gibbo with Blissett with the youth before AB wastes another slew of money this summer & expends the parachute payment. Forget Z-cars this is our new entry theme: www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqyRmDZ2D2AWFC fans might like to try this site. I've considered it: www.samaritans.org/I know exactly how you feel mate - but I still think calling for him to be sacked now is not the way to go about it. I know I'm in the minority, but thats how I see it. The thread I posted (a quote from a watford forum) sums up pretty much my thinking on it. I agree that if it wasn't for our early season form then we'd be amongst the relegation spots, and I agree that Aidy's team selection is dodgy, I agree that he's tactically on the same level as a schoolboy, I'd also agree that the previous statements by the media etc labelling him Englands brightest young manager were waaaay far off the mark, but to sack him would possibly leave us worse off. Sticking with him, yeah we might not get promoted this season, if he leads us down the league next season he'll be gone around the Autumn time. If we sack him now and piss away a shit load of money - it could leave us fucked more than when Vialli (spit) left his mark upon us. This whole thing is more than 'to sack or not to sack', it's a chance for our club to demonstrate that we're not like other clubs who don't give managers a fair crack and are reactionary twats. By the by, if we end up as champions... will you still be singing from the same hymn sheet?
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Post by Golden_Boy™ on Apr 9, 2008 21:27:10 GMT -1
You might notice that I'm quoting UEA aswell on some points here, mostly cos I'm not in the mood to go on and he's making some good points - in my mind ;D
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Post by GresleyRam©®™ on Apr 9, 2008 21:30:45 GMT -1
I think right now you need to do more of this a bit of this and if it goes tits up then this
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Post by ovechkin8 on Apr 9, 2008 21:35:09 GMT -1
Mate I was full of hope over the summer. We'd battled in the Prem & but for the injury to the car thief ,some late goals & a couple of poor decisions I reckon we could have stayed up. We were not a disgrace as the pillock Jordan labels us. So I'm full of optimism over the summer with regards to improving the squad. Martin Hunter coming in and a new passing style melded with our physicality. But I'm afraid there has been no improvement at all.Its been getting worse & worse. Lets make a fresh start. You don't get to see some 15000 of us mocking in sarcasm for no reason at all. I hope we go up unlikely as it seems but I would still have huge reservations over AB. Mind you my usual Watford reticence is kicking in & perhaps we should allow him to allow us to slip into the relegation zone next season ... ? I'm annoyed & feel let down. Maybe just one more chance ? I think AB has had enough chances & I am disliking more & more the board at Watford. No ambition at all. Too content to be as we are. No link ups with academies abroad ,improving the scouting network ,getting a really top academy with top coaches. Auxerre Chievo & Alkmaar can do it so can we. But GS ? We are punching above our weight. So what ! Lets keep punching even harder. If we go up it will be more due tot the terrible lack of quality of the other sides than anything else & certainly not down to AB. I mean Sinclair on loan or Lita or Stokes. Its desperate to see Shittu shoved up & the other Messiah John not even on the bench despite some promising signs at Argyle. Lord help Watford . Depressing. Night all. Time to take the antidepressants.
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Post by Golden_Boy™ on Apr 9, 2008 21:45:20 GMT -1
I think right now you need to do more of this a bit of this and if it goes tits up then this To that!
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Post by GresleyRam©®™ on Apr 9, 2008 21:50:12 GMT -1
I think right now you need to do more of this a bit of this and if it goes tits up then this To that! see, a bit of simple Gres reasoning and you're fine again! ;D I'll email my suggestion to Boothroyd - tell him to play some football and stop trying to
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Post by Golden_Boy™ on Apr 9, 2008 22:04:27 GMT -1
Ovech your post is deserving of a more lengthy reply but i can't fucked. sorry What I will say again is that he needs an assistant asap. The squad we have is generally good, the main problem is no-one has a clue what to do. By that i mean, where to play, how to play, what style etc, there is fuck all cohesion happening. He needs someone to help him sort it all out again and get the lads playing as a team, who have passion, belief and the never give up attitude we used to have not so long ago. Get this sorted and we'll be a dangerous team! Of course the fact that the players aren't really playing to their strengths is down to the gaffa at the end of the day - so that lies with Aidy, his refusal to change tact and other stuff I previously mentioned like dodgy team selections and messed up subs is not good either but I feel a good assistant will pull him up to scratch and get us back on track. It is a cliche - but we have come a long way since we got relegated back in the 99/00 season, after beating Bolton at Wembley (bless you Nicky Wright ;D). To be upset and angered at the fact we're lying in the playoffs with a few games to go and not languishing precariously near the bottom like more recognised former prem clubs like Leicester, Cov etc shows that we've come a fair way for a small family club like ours, after all, that is what we are.
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Post by GresleyRam©®™ on Apr 9, 2008 22:05:38 GMT -1
Nicky Wright - ex derby!
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Post by Golden_Boy™ on Apr 9, 2008 22:09:03 GMT -1
To that! see, a bit of simple Gres reasoning and you're fine again! ;D I'll email my suggestion to Boothroyd - tell him to play some football and stop trying to Ah you see, I was fine before hand mate! Just voicing what needs to be voiced thats all But if you could e-mail that to him that'd be great cheers
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