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Post by C@V on Jan 9, 2009 13:42:47 GMT -1
Both sides of the conflict feel constantly under threat from the other so things like this are always going to happen. There's no respect between Isreal and the rest of the Middle East, and no Western diplomacy can sort the issue unless we use military strength to enforce peace (the irony). I guess we started this all by promising them both the land at the start of WW2. The thing is, I feel it's more of an issue of pride. The only geographic location which is necessary to either Judaism or Islam is Mecca, and that's not involved in the Israel/Palestine thing. In terms of history and heritage the ground they're fighting over is extremely important to both sides, but not in terms of religion. How exactly is Mecca necessary to Judaism? You can't even enter Mecca unless you're a Muslim! It's in Saudi Arabia which has no Jewish significance at all! Also Israel isn't fighting over a piece of land it's defending it's population from rocket attacks! Jeez you talk rubbish!
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Post by PureOldGold on Jan 9, 2009 13:46:23 GMT -1
Both sides of the conflict feel constantly under threat from the other so things like this are always going to happen. There's no respect between Isreal and the rest of the Middle East, and no Western diplomacy can sort the issue unless we use military strength to enforce peace (the irony). I guess we started this all by promising them both the land at the start of WW2. The thing is, I feel it's more of an issue of pride. The only geographic location which is necessary to either Judaism or Islam is Mecca, and that's not involved in the Israel/Palestine thing. In terms of history and heritage the ground they're fighting over is extremely important to both sides, but not in terms of religion. How exactly is Mecca necessary to Judaism? You can't even enter Mecca unless you're a Muslim! It's in Saudi Arabia which has no Jewish significance at all! Also Israel isn't fighting over a piece of land it's defending it's population from rocket attacks! Jeez you talk rubbish! Home made rockets, which have no targetting capabilities Cav!
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Post by C@V on Jan 9, 2009 13:48:19 GMT -1
How exactly is Mecca necessary to Judaism? You can't even enter Mecca unless you're a Muslim! It's in Saudi Arabia which has no Jewish significance at all! Also Israel isn't fighting over a piece of land it's defending it's population from rocket attacks! Jeez you talk rubbish! Home made rockets, which have no targetting capabilities Cav! Some of them still hit residential areas and kill people. Hamas needs stopping end of! Israel can not do this through force alone but it is one part of the process needed.
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Post by PureOldGold on Jan 9, 2009 13:52:09 GMT -1
Hitting UN aid trucks now. Ignoring the UN and the majority of world leaders. I hope they rot in hell.
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Post by PureOldGold on Jan 9, 2009 13:56:08 GMT -1
Home made rockets, which have no targetting capabilities Cav! Some of them still hit residential areas and kill people. Hamas needs stopping end of! Israel can not do this through force alone but it is one part of the process needed. If they opened the borders which was the original agreement declared on the ceasefire, this would have prevented any rockets being launched. Hamas are defending their people and standing up for basic human rights.
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Post by C@V on Jan 9, 2009 14:02:11 GMT -1
Some of them still hit residential areas and kill people. Hamas needs stopping end of! Israel can not do this through force alone but it is one part of the process needed. If they opened the borders which was the original agreement declared on the ceasefire, this would have prevented any rockets being launched. Hamas are defending their people and standing up for basic human rights. Hamas are doing no such thing! Hamas clearly say that they will not rest until the country of Israel ceases to exist. Iran has the same view and they deserve no clemency on that basis. Islamic Anti Semitism is a disgrace! Vast swaves of the Islamic world are no better than the Nazi's of 70 years ago!
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Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Jan 9, 2009 14:04:15 GMT -1
The Nazis of 1949 .... they were cunning barstewards
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Post by Mrs H on Jan 9, 2009 14:05:08 GMT -1
What's the point in the UN if no fucker ever takes any notice of it? The American's haven't even sided with the UN!
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Post by C@V on Jan 9, 2009 14:06:02 GMT -1
The Nazis of 1949 .... they were cunning barstewards Edited!
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Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Jan 9, 2009 14:06:29 GMT -1
What's the point in the UN if no fucker ever takes any notice of it? The American's haven't even sided with the UN! they're still trying to figure of what the initials mean
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Post by C@V on Jan 9, 2009 14:06:30 GMT -1
What's the point in the UN if no fucker ever takes any notice of it? The American's haven't even sided with the UN! There is no point to the UN it is pointless! Blunt!
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Post by El Morto La Hoja! on Jan 9, 2009 14:06:55 GMT -1
The Nazis of 1949 .... they were cunning barstewards Edited! BoOOOoOOoo!! ;D
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Post by C@V on Jan 9, 2009 14:08:29 GMT -1
What's the point in the UN if no fucker ever takes any notice of it? The American's haven't even sided with the UN! they're still trying to figure of what the initials mean Utterly Nonsensical
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Post by CmonYouSpurs on Jan 9, 2009 14:09:38 GMT -1
Uniformed Nancyboys
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Post by PureOldGold on Jan 9, 2009 14:14:06 GMT -1
If they opened the borders which was the original agreement declared on the ceasefire, this would have prevented any rockets being launched. Hamas are defending their people and standing up for basic human rights. Hamas are doing no such thing! Hamas clearly say that they will not rest until the country of Israel ceases to exist. Iran has the same view and they deserve no clemency on that basis. Islamic Anti Semitism is a disgrace! Vast swaves of the Islamic world are no better than the Nazi's of 60 years ago! 'Israels illegal occupation has existed for 35 years, during which time it transformed into a form of colonialism and suppressed and oppressed an entire people for decades, preventing them from the exercise of their right to self-determination and the establishment of their State, Palestine'' How do you exactly expect Hamas to reply? Many non muslims around the globe are protesting against Israels actions, but the Jews like they always have are playing the victim, while Palestinian civilians are being massacred.
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Post by PureOldGold on Jan 9, 2009 14:16:27 GMT -1
What's the point in the UN if no fucker ever takes any notice of it? The American's haven't even sided with the UN! Its only the US and Jews who repeatedly ignore them. Oh and target their aid relief trucks.
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Post by PureOldGold on Jan 9, 2009 14:19:52 GMT -1
The BBC and SKY News do not release all the facts by the way. Its like listening to Cav repeatedly. For the most accurate coverage check out this link: www.presstv.ir/Sky Channel 515.
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Post by C@V on Jan 9, 2009 14:28:36 GMT -1
Hamas are doing no such thing! Hamas clearly say that they will not rest until the country of Israel ceases to exist. Iran has the same view and they deserve no clemency on that basis. Islamic Anti Semitism is a disgrace! Vast swaves of the Islamic world are no better than the Nazi's of 60 years ago! 'Israels illegal occupation has existed for 35 years, during which time it transformed into a form of colonialism and suppressed and oppressed an entire people for decades, preventing them from the exercise of their right to self-determination and the establishment of their State, Palestine'' How do you exactly expect Hamas to reply? Many non muslims around the globe are protesting against Israels actions, but the Jews like they always have are playing the victim, while Palestinian civilians are being massacred. You have a typical racist Islam attitude towards the Jewish. Israel has been the holy land for the Jews for thousands of years and they have exiled by numerous forces i.e Babylonians, Romans, Persians etc. To say that the Jews always play victims is absolute crap! Considering how many times they have been persecuted they still assimilate in to different societies around the world and always work hard and establish a good ethic of integration. You show me how Muslims integrate in to foreign society? And it's the Muslims who cry victim whenever they can't get their own way not the Jews!
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Post by C@V on Jan 9, 2009 14:35:00 GMT -1
The BBC and SKY News do not release all the facts by the way. Its like listening to Cav repeatedly. For the most accurate coverage check out this link: www.presstv.ir/Sky Channel 515. Yep for an unbiased view watch Iranian press coverage! HAMAS SPONSORED BY IRAN!
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Post by PureOldGold on Jan 9, 2009 14:38:04 GMT -1
'Israels illegal occupation has existed for 35 years, during which time it transformed into a form of colonialism and suppressed and oppressed an entire people for decades, preventing them from the exercise of their right to self-determination and the establishment of their State, Palestine'' How do you exactly expect Hamas to reply? Many non muslims around the globe are protesting against Israels actions, but the Jews like they always have are playing the victim, while Palestinian civilians are being massacred. You have a typical racist Islam attitude towards the Jewish. Israel has been the holy land for the Jews for thousands of years and they have exiled by numerous forces i.e Babylonians, Romans, Persians etc. To say that the Jews always play victims is absolute crap! Considering how many times they have been persecuted they still assimilate in to different societies around the world and always work hard and establish a good ethic of integration. You show me how Muslims integrate in to foreign society? And it's the Muslims who cry victim whenever they can't get their own way not the Jews! No one has and ever will have any sympathy for them! I wonder why? 'Diffrent socities' you say? They've integrated into the US and UK into top positions ok which is evident today, hence the support from across the Atlantic. There tight fisted methods will bite them on their arses like it has many a time in the past!
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