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1980's
Jul 10, 2007 10:01:07 GMT -1
Post by thales on Jul 10, 2007 10:01:07 GMT -1
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1980's
Jul 10, 2007 16:01:31 GMT -1
Post by HURLOCK on Jul 10, 2007 16:01:31 GMT -1
not biting on what jules? i mean that! or are you a conservative No! Not biting on what Hurls said! Bah, in for a penny... don't you mean they'll steal the tombstone, and turn into work tops!
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1980's
Jul 10, 2007 17:05:55 GMT -1
Post by ancientblade on Jul 10, 2007 17:05:55 GMT -1
Maggie was right about fucking the miners off, and what a crook scargill turned out to be That's an interesting take on the meaning of the word 'right'. Whatever your view on Scargill and his personal and leadership qualities, he was the one who was shown to be accurate in his assessment of the government's intentions with regard to the coal industry, ably assisted by their friend McGregor. Personally, when we have around 300 years of coal reserves underground I can't quite see the benefit to the country of shutting down virtually every coal mine that we have so that we are now an importer of coal! Many of those mines are now flooded and could only be re-opened at huge expense. And to top it all, this has all occurrred at a time when north sea oil and gas reserves are running down and consequently we are relying ever more heavily on imports of those fuels as well. As a policy it's a bit like Warnock's 4-5-1 away formation. It's not very good! Also, having positively encouraged and even negotiated with the DUM (Democratic Union of Mineworkers) and their leader Ray Link when it suited, the conservative government (might have been Major's government by then) later proceeded to shut down all their mines as well! Nice way to treat your friends. Basically, as I see it the decision to wage war on the NUM was vindictive in the extreme, and was an act of revenge for the conservatives' loss of power in february 1974. Many in the conservative party saw the miners as being responsible for that. The government of the day based a very important part of domestic policy on a desire for revenge on a section of the workforce, and had no regard whatsoever for the terrible consequences that went far beyond the miners and decimated whole communites and towns. To me, that showed very little desire to do 'right', and was no different from the behaviour expected of the playground bully. I would expect a slightly broader and more mature attitude than that towards policy making from those responsible for running the country.
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1980's
Jul 10, 2007 18:09:58 GMT -1
Post by gw on Jul 10, 2007 18:09:58 GMT -1
was there much political corectness back then
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1980's
Jul 10, 2007 18:30:52 GMT -1
Post by ancientblade on Jul 10, 2007 18:30:52 GMT -1
was there much political corectness back then Can't really remember. I suppose that it's always been around in one form or another, in that there have always been things that it wasn't prudent to say or do. It just seems to be more intrusive and extreme nowadays.
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1980's
Jul 10, 2007 20:45:31 GMT -1
Post by Neko Bazu on Jul 10, 2007 20:45:31 GMT -1
Thatcher's closing of the mines was a genius stroke. Just watch; when everyone else has run out of coal, we'll have tons of it and can charge whatever the hell we want! [/tongue-in-cheek]
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