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Zokora
Jun 4, 2006 14:29:22 GMT -1
Post by J'Arry the Spurrier on Jun 4, 2006 14:29:22 GMT -1
Berbatov is a better player than Mido, so its not much of a loss We really do need a left winger Hi DF, sorry to interrupt, but do you think you should have kept Matty Etherington? Hello GB. Etherington has definitely looked good this season for West Ham. It's easy to argue that we should have kept him, but sometimes it works with a player and sometimes not. I can't remember if he wanted to leave to get more playing time or whether we felt he was surplus to requirements. Maybe he woudn't have developed the same way if he had stayed. Reid was hyped up when we acquired him. So much so that Dawson was considered a make-weight in the deal - funny how that turned out. We also loaned out Ziegler all season (to Hamburg and Wigan) when he could have been useful. After all the waiting, most Spurs would be disappointing if it were not a big name signing on the left wing.
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Zokora
Jun 4, 2006 14:29:44 GMT -1
Post by Golden_Boyâ„¢ on Jun 4, 2006 14:29:44 GMT -1
Hi DF, sorry to interrupt, but do you think you should have kept Matty Etherington? Yep & luke young as well, not sure why we sold both of them Well MJ has his own ideas I guess, and he's startin a new era at WHL, soon they'll be challengin!
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Zokora
Jun 4, 2006 14:33:25 GMT -1
Post by Golden_Boyâ„¢ on Jun 4, 2006 14:33:25 GMT -1
Hi DF, sorry to interrupt, but do you think you should have kept Matty Etherington? Hello GB. Etherington has definitely looked good this season for West Ham. It's easy to argue that we should have kept him, but sometimes it works with a player and sometimes not. I can't remember if he wanted to leave to get more playing time or whether we felt he was surplus to requirements. Maybe he woudn't have developed the same way if he had stayed. Reid was hyped up when we acquired him. So much so that Dawson was considered a make-weight in the deal - funny how that turned out. We also loaned out Ziegler all season (to Hamburg and Wigan) when he could have been useful. After all the waiting, most Spurs would be disappointing if it were not a big name signing on the left wing. Alright JTS, I'm not really sure, you'd know more about it than me, but I don't think he was gettin many opportunities... It is only the start of June, and MJ will probably be on a scouting mission during the WC for a competent left winger I'd imagine. With the accuisition of Berbatov, do you have funds for another major singing?
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Zokora
Jun 4, 2006 14:35:26 GMT -1
Post by J'Arry the Spurrier on Jun 4, 2006 14:35:26 GMT -1
Well MJ has his own ideas I guess, and he's startin a new era at WHL, soon they'll be challengin! MJ does seem too, but clearly knows what he is doing. He has shown little faith in Kelly and Zeigler, both fan favourites, but shown faith in Reid. He is building for the future. We have he youngest team in the premiership and with Davids leaving and replacement fullbacks we will probably get younger next year. For all the talk of Wengers "young team" in the CL run, that team was almost 3 years older than the Spurs team.
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Zokora
Jun 4, 2006 14:35:47 GMT -1
Post by duckfish007 on Jun 4, 2006 14:35:47 GMT -1
Yep & luke young as well, not sure why we sold both of them Well MJ has his own ideas I guess, and he's startin a new era at WHL, soon they'll be challengin! I think it was Hoddle that sold both of them MJ is already a legend at the Lane
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Zokora
Jun 4, 2006 14:38:05 GMT -1
Post by J'Arry the Spurrier on Jun 4, 2006 14:38:05 GMT -1
It is only the start of June, and MJ will probably be on a scouting mission during the WC for a competent left winger I'd imagine. With the accuisition of Berbatov, do you have funds for another major singing? Funds will not be a problem. The "guess" is we have 20-30 million to spend this summer if the right players are available. So there could be money for two more good signings or one major one.
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Zokora
Jun 4, 2006 14:40:40 GMT -1
Post by duckfish007 on Jun 4, 2006 14:40:40 GMT -1
It is only the start of June, and MJ will probably be on a scouting mission during the WC for a competent left winger I'd imagine. With the accuisition of Berbatov, do you have funds for another major singing? Funds will not be a problem. The "guess" is we have 20-30 million to spend this summer if the right players are available. So there could be money for two more good signings or one major one. Champions league tho would've made it easier to get World Class players but Martin Jol is very respected around the globe which also helps atract the major players
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Zokora
Jun 4, 2006 14:52:47 GMT -1
Post by J'Arry the Spurrier on Jun 4, 2006 14:52:47 GMT -1
Champions league tho would've made it easier to get World Class players but Martin Jol is very respected around the globe which also helps atract the major players It would have been a huge boost. As you say, it would help in attracting players, as well as keeping our current players. Ultimately we will need to raise our wage structure substantially to compete with the CL teams and the extra CL revenue would probably be used more for that than increasing the amount spent on new players. The worrying thing is we have missed a golden opportunity to break into the CL League. Arsenal will presumably be better next year and Liverpool and United improved dramatically in the second half of the season. So getting fourth might be harder next year.
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Zokora
Jun 4, 2006 14:57:43 GMT -1
Post by duckfish007 on Jun 4, 2006 14:57:43 GMT -1
Last season in a way we overachieved, none of us expected to finish 5th and come so close to finishing 4th,
With Henry staying, Arsenal will be much harder to beat next year, Liverpool & Man Utd as you say have got stronger, If we can keep Ledders fit and bring in some more quality, i think we've got a great chance of 3rd or 4th spot.
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Zokora
Jun 4, 2006 15:03:01 GMT -1
Post by J'Arry the Spurrier on Jun 4, 2006 15:03:01 GMT -1
I expected us to finish 5th Most pundits had us 5th as well or at least to battle it out with Boro. True, we got closer to 4th than expected. But with the top four likely to be improved, we might need 75 points for 4th next year.
There also might be more competition for the UEFA spots. Newcastle finished well and with a fit Owen and Luque could be much better. And who knows with Boro. Everton are also buying well this summer, though probably not enough.
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Zokora
Jun 4, 2006 15:06:44 GMT -1
Post by duckfish007 on Jun 4, 2006 15:06:44 GMT -1
I expected us to finish 5th Most pundits had us 5th as well or at least to battle it out with Boro. True, we got closer to 4th than expected. But with the top four likely to be improved, we might need 75 points for 4th next year. There also might be more competition for the UEFA spots. Newcastle finished well and with a fit Owen and Luque could be much better. And who knows with Boro. Everton are also buying well this summer, though probably not enough. Newcastle without Shearer i don't think will be much of a threat, I did actually expect us to fall apart after x-mas like we normally do. Everton have brought some decent players and as for Boro, it all depends on who they get in as manager, Blackburn could be the ones to watch out for
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Zokora
Jun 4, 2006 15:13:09 GMT -1
Post by J'Arry the Spurrier on Jun 4, 2006 15:13:09 GMT -1
I think Shearer going will help them. He may have got the goals, but many were from penalties. I wonder if he contributed enough elsewhere on the pitch.
Do you remember when we played at Anfield. In the unlikely event we had won, we would have overtaken them for third. But after that the gained a ridiculous amount on us.
On the other hand we pretty much kept pace with Arsenal all season - after allowing for games in hand there was never that much between us.
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Jun 4, 2006 15:16:17 GMT -1
Post by duckfish007 on Jun 4, 2006 15:16:17 GMT -1
I think Shearer going will help them. He may have got the goals, but many were from penalties. I wonder if he contributed enough elsewhere on the pitch. Do you remember when we played at Anfield. In the unlikely event we had won, we would have overtaken them for third. But after that the gained a ridiculous amount on us. On the other hand we pretty much kept pace with Arsenal all season - after allowing for games in hand there was never that much between us. We really shot ourselves in the foot by conceding way too many last minute goals,
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Jun 4, 2006 15:24:38 GMT -1
Post by J'Arry the Spurrier on Jun 4, 2006 15:24:38 GMT -1
We really shot ourselves in the foot by conceding way too many last minute goals, Foot? More like a head wound. Sunderland and West Ham were costly. Although we actually had the best record (ignoring Chelsea) for gaining points after falling behind. Sunderland, West Ham - 2 points lost each Fulham, Chelsea - 1 point each Grimsby, Leicester - no glory in the cups Odd season really. We were consistent in the league, generally getting the points where we should, but not many against the top four, and poor in the cups. Historically, a more normal season would be a good cup run or two, a couple of good wins against the top teams and loads of dropped points against the relegation fodder.
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Jun 4, 2006 15:28:36 GMT -1
Post by duckfish007 on Jun 4, 2006 15:28:36 GMT -1
and the mistake's by Robbo against Man Utd at Old Trafford and at WHL against Arsenal, we could've picked up 6 points instead of just 2.
I just hope we don't get distracted by the cups if we have a good run, mostly in the UEFA cup
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Jun 4, 2006 15:43:04 GMT -1
Post by J'Arry the Spurrier on Jun 4, 2006 15:43:04 GMT -1
I don't count Robbo's mistakes in the same context as he must have made many saves that saved points. A goalkeeper always will make some mistakes. It's just so unfortunate that the mistakes came in those games, as beating United and Arsenal would have been big coups.
I think the cups will help. We have a big squad so should cope better than Bolton. We can blood young players in the league cup and our players have been waitng to play in europe so better keep their concentration.
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Zokora
Jun 4, 2006 15:49:47 GMT -1
Post by duckfish007 on Jun 4, 2006 15:49:47 GMT -1
If it wasn't for Robbo, we'd never have finished 5th,
We do have a big squad but we're lacking in the LB, LW, RW and upfront for decent cover RB, CD, CM we do have cover for but if Lee, Lennon were to get injured we'd be stuck, JJ isn't the best on the wing, It will interesting to see if Dean Marney gets much of a chance or Lee Barnard
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Zokora
Jun 4, 2006 15:58:05 GMT -1
Post by J'Arry the Spurrier on Jun 4, 2006 15:58:05 GMT -1
Routledge for Lennon, assuming we keep him. Also a diamond midfield.
Its only the left side and big forward where the are no options.
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Zokora
Jun 4, 2006 15:59:56 GMT -1
Post by duckfish007 on Jun 4, 2006 15:59:56 GMT -1
Routledge for Lennon, assuming we keep him. Also a diamond midfield. Its only the left side and big forward where the are no options. Charlton are after Routledge cos of Dowie
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Zokora
Jun 4, 2006 16:11:00 GMT -1
Post by J'Arry the Spurrier on Jun 4, 2006 16:11:00 GMT -1
Portsmouth also want to keep him and he was mentioned as bait in a Chimbonda deal with Wigan.
I wonder what Jol's thinking is? Routledge is probably too good a prospect to keep as backup to Lennon. So is there a way to play them together, other than claiming their joint height is equal to a Crouch and asking to play a extra man.
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